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10-30-2013, 07:17 AM #1
dream fishing 150
So this post will be hypothetical for now. if i had the money i would probably do it, but sadly i dont. Anyways i have a 17v bullet and am currently stuck with the johnson it came with. nothing wrong with that just the merc of the time were straight up better. lighter faster etc. i have been thinking up the combo i would love to hang on the back of my boat for a while. Im stuck between the 2.0 or the 2.4(keeping them 150 at the prop not looking to soup it up just create and even shallower sitting boat). anyways to either size i would be getting a 15"mid, internal either 12 or 24 volt trim, the 200case coned(in my dreams by titus! lol) w/ a alien cowl. i just prefer them to the lightweight bridgeport styles. so which would be better for a fishing motor? im thinking 87 for the 2.0l and maybe 91 for the 2.4(not sure if they made those then) i know the 2.0 would be lighter by at least 25lbs, but would the benefit of the increased torque in the 2.4 be better?
1984 17vee Bullet w/1985 Johnson 150gt (bob's nose cone, hydrodynamics custom 8in. jackplate, custom skid plate and foil, and 26p trophy plus) currently 70mph tournament loaded.
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10-30-2013, 09:31 AM #25000 RPM
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Hands down a 2.5 150 promax if it was me, made 94-96
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10-30-2013, 10:09 AM #35000 RPM
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The 2.0 is heavier then the 2.4 and 2.5
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10-30-2013, 10:16 AM #46000 RPM
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My Merc Marine shop manual from the late 70's says that a 20" 200 chrome bore 2.4 weighs 335 lbs and the 20" 2.0 steel bore 150/175 weighs 360 lbs. My Merc Shop manual for my 2.5 200 25" shaft says it weighs 407 lbs.
I was always under the impression that the chromies were the lightest followed by the 2.0s and the 2.5s were the heaviest, though they're really not separated by that much...especially when you consider the weights of OMC loopers of similar hp...
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10-31-2013, 06:21 AM #65000 RPM
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The 2.5 motors are a tad bit heavier in stock form because of the big drop on cowling. For the way the op wants to set a motor up the 2.4 would be lightest and the 2.0 the heaviest. The 2.0 blocks weigh a good 25/30 lb more then a 2.4/2.5.
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10-31-2013, 07:40 AM #7
oh so thats where all the weight is. so what would you all think the weight savings would be on the motor by doing the 15" mid, moving the trim into the boat and a light weight cowling. i didn't know they would weigh that much. the johnson i have is a crossflow and its cowling is pretty light already. not much you could to reduce its weight other than build a lightweight pan.
1984 17vee Bullet w/1985 Johnson 150gt (bob's nose cone, hydrodynamics custom 8in. jackplate, custom skid plate and foil, and 26p trophy plus) currently 70mph tournament loaded.
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11-01-2013, 05:48 PM #8
150 PM with a 15" mid would be awesome on your boat South if ya could find one. There was one on Lake Hopatcong in the mid 90's on a 17' Bullet like yours that made a FOOL outta all the so called 70mph bassers. Man I loved listening and watching that thing run
Laser 1550 ...under construction with a serious weight loss
Motor 2.4....undecided on hp yet
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11-01-2013, 08:26 PM #9
Well i already hang with the cookie cutter boats in the local clubs! But is the pm the same as the mariner super mag? Kinda sounds like that promax wasnt a 150.....but i would love to get one of those anyone wanna do a straight trade for my johnson? Lol
1984 17vee Bullet w/1985 Johnson 150gt (bob's nose cone, hydrodynamics custom 8in. jackplate, custom skid plate and foil, and 26p trophy plus) currently 70mph tournament loaded.
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11-02-2013, 07:11 PM #10
Plus the trim pump and hoses, right? How much do those weigh? 30-40#? I don't think that includes a prop/hardware and that is probably dry weight.
I would guess using a factory SS 15" mid would be heavier than a bass 20" mid. I have both but haven't put them on the scales yet. I know a cut down fishing mid is pretty darn light.
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11-02-2013, 07:15 PM #11
a factory ss isn't much lighter? i would def love to know that actual difference because getting one cut down isnt much of an expense difference from buying a new one.
1984 17vee Bullet w/1985 Johnson 150gt (bob's nose cone, hydrodynamics custom 8in. jackplate, custom skid plate and foil, and 26p trophy plus) currently 70mph tournament loaded.
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11-03-2013, 08:53 PM #12
You have to remember that is Merc racing or considered Offshore stuff. It's built like the 20 Offshore mid, thick. That is why I suggested cutting a bass mid. Micheal Chapman can help you with that if you are serious about it.
I notice there wasn't much response to my post... lol!
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11-03-2013, 08:58 PM #13
hmm never thought of that definitely something to keep in mind. i think i got lucky with having a crossflow as apposed to a looper.
1984 17vee Bullet w/1985 Johnson 150gt (bob's nose cone, hydrodynamics custom 8in. jackplate, custom skid plate and foil, and 26p trophy plus) currently 70mph tournament loaded.
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11-03-2013, 09:50 PM #14
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11-04-2013, 06:43 AM #15
ok ok im trying to keep it at 150hp per coast guard rating. i know i can beat the pants off most fishing boats with that kind of power, but i like being able to say nope its just a 150! it seems to be more damaging to an ego that way....lol
1984 17vee Bullet w/1985 Johnson 150gt (bob's nose cone, hydrodynamics custom 8in. jackplate, custom skid plate and foil, and 26p trophy plus) currently 70mph tournament loaded.