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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark75H View Post
    I believe the Lake X guys have refered to this boat as "Mr Kiekhaefer's personal Molinari"
    The facts are a little muddy, but if Roy ran that boat in the 1966 GCM, he finished 6th overall. But for sure, the Gold Coast Marathon was "Mr. Kiekhaefer's personal race".


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ID:	272126 Here is a better picture of the stacks. I always thought that this was 1966??

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    It looks like that motor has the old style cowlings with the recoil starter in the top cowl. If so was the last of the recoil starter equiped inline 6s?
    In the photo of the boat coming directly to the photographer there is a "highlight" reflection on the cowl that looks like a pull rope, but I believe it is not.

    Both of my 66 and 67 1100's as well as my 1965 900 do not have pull ropes. I think 1964 was the last of the pull ropes. In 1965 the L6's had a fairly big re-design and I believe the pull cord was dropped in the makeover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrewuponLakeX View Post
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ID:	272126 Here is a better picture of the stacks. I always thought that this was 1966??
    So do I. I have a few old clippings of the GCM. Your dad finished 9th in 1963; 5th in 1965, driving the #802 Wing; 6th in 1966.

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    [QUOTE=Old fiberglass;2428939]I thought I would start this thread because there seems to be very little actual infomation about Molinari's of the 1960's and 1970's.

    So, I was hoping with this thread folks could help piece together the history and different types of hull designs built. Sooo if folks have pictures or information please chime in. QUOTE]

    Here's my 2-cents regarding Molinaris from the late 60's thru early 1980's.
    My contribution here is primarily from Powerboat Magazine, Powerboat & Waterskiing, Canadian Boating, Better Boating (Canadian magazine), Scream & Fly Hot Singles and from going to several races throughout the 70's.
    This may take several posts as I want to post a few pictures.

    Let's start with what I consider the Molinaris that really changed the landscape - the rocker bottoms. The Molinari factory must have been pretty busy in the late 60's and early 70's as these were readily available to both Merc & OMC in both single and duals. What's notable about the dual picture below is 998 Bill Sirois winning boat in the 1970 Outboard World Championship is a rocker bottom and 187 Jim Merton's is I believe the next generation "sprint" bottom - and of course the boat Sirois drove to victory in 1971.
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    The next Molinaris were 17 and 18 "sprints" plus a small number of 16's. The "sprints" obviously did not fly bow high like the rocker bottoms, but with the extra horsepower of the first Twisters over the BP's they flew flatter and faster. OMC did use the "sprints" to start but shortly after went to Scottis so most "sprints" were Merc powered.
    What I liked about the "sprints" were in 1971 & 1972 they made great U and S class boats, then with the oncoming C6's and Twister II's they were turned over to some SJ drivers like Mark Rotharmel - SJ 11 who in 1973 had some good results with the same boat Spencer Dunn S-73 drove in S class in 1972 (Canadian National Champion).
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    With the more powerfull Twister II's, the next generation Molinaris were again "sprint" in style with a full front but I belive (I'm very open to correction here) that the deck shape and tunnel width and depth were changed quite a bit as now the factory engines were approaching 180+ horsepower. By now OMC were primarily Scotti and Merc were primarily Molinari. If I'm not mistaken, the 17 footers were considered the sprint hulls and the 18's were considered the marathon hulls - Willabee would know for sure.
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    When Merc transitioned from the Twister II's to the Twister TII-X the pickle fork became the more popular hull and the full front pretty much disappeared. Although the pickle forks appeared at the 1972 OWC with TII's, they really took over in 1973/74 and were still being raced up to about 1977/78.
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    When the V6's appeared the boats changed again.
    The first generation V6 Molinaris; circa 1975, were pickle forks with full rear cowlings then followed by what I called the LCG (low centre of gravity) low rear cowling boats that dominated in St. Louis - August 1976 and in many races in Europe.
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    Here's my final submission...Molinari goes OMC and by now Merc has gone mostly Seebold in North America and Velden in Europe.
    Hering/ Molinari win 1977 Parker with an Evinrude CCC and Jimbo had plenty of wins with his 191 Molinaris in the late 70's and early 80's.
    The next generation were the V8's and that's when my interest in Molinars wained as I was not a big fan of V8 racing - but for different reasons than Jackie's !!!

    And of course I just had to sneak in one last Merc-Molinari picture - one of my favourites as the shape/colour/style just looked soooo good !!

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    By far the most informative and interesting reading on the site ---- THANKS again and PLEASE keep it up! Now I have to plow snow--Again -Gary

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    A very well written, chronicled and illustrated time line of the Molinari. Very informative and fascinating to read. Great Job

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    Well done Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark75H View Post
    Well done Peter
    I heartily concur. Mercury also collaborated with Miles, Schultz, and a few US builders, but Molinari and then Seebold carried the day and,, quite frankly, produced the best boats. The fibreglass copies and variants did not work well in the U, and S classes but held their own in Sport J and earlier iin the multi engine era.

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    (Single engine boats are lacking something)

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