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01-22-2022, 12:29 PM #37065000 RPM
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Amen RBT add all of those to the list.
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01-22-2022, 01:09 PM #3707
Time to start a new thread ...
Today's boats with Today's motors...We have invented the world; WE see
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01-22-2022, 09:43 PM #3708Team Member
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01-22-2022, 11:33 PM #3709
I took a stab at this based on lengths starting at 17ft going up to 30ft for single outboard boats. The list gets pretty long when you include all boat types running current production motors (4-stroke, V8's, Sho's, super Sho's). 21 and 22 foot boats are packed with big runners. You have to go nearly 20 boats deep in the 21ft category before you see a "SOB" show up. That is based on the current list from this thread. That is just boats and numbers I have seen posted on S&F. Liberator, Allison, Bullet, Ballistic, and a few others all pile up in the 21' category and that is limiting them to just one model. I now get why this is a limited subset.
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Allison XB21 2+2
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01-25-2022, 07:40 PM #3710Screaming And Flying!
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Good name for the new thread. WavetoWave can write it up like his blog .... and RBT can check the data.
Make it 25-30 feet or maybe even 35. This thread has way to much good info based on the original poster 302sport's questions on Page 1 and 2 to change now. Would be cool to see the new thread grow for 25-35 foot class.
Add Phantom's new 30 OB below while you two guys are at it.
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01-25-2022, 07:50 PM #3711Screaming And Flying!
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I think 24-35, lol the 25-30 would leave the fastest one out again.
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01-26-2022, 05:24 AM #3713Screaming And Flying!
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The title of the thread is fastest SOB, not fastest SOB as set up for rough water. I don’t doubt that the optimum set back for top end is not the best for rough water. Of course that’s where ballast tanks come in.
From my own experience my 23 degree dead rise SS2000 runs a lot better in rough water with 4 people than with just me. The 21 Tuff that Mark let me drive was in another league in the rough, as it should be.
Rotorhead had what may be the first Tuff around 2003. It was one of the first. His boat is not a light weight hull and he ran it hard in big water in Lake Simcoe. And he ran it over 100 in flat water with a 300X
I don’t know anything about Progressions. I do know a Tuff can run in big water
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Correct with a 22.5* hull and a sharp angle of attack the Tuff does just fine in the snotty stuff. The only downfall is the fact that it is light I guess, which means it is uncomfortable for the driver but would likely win races with the right "guy" behind the wheel. I liken it to a normal person thinking a Buick is better around a rough race coarse because they fell less shock, albeit moving at the speed of smell.
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01-28-2022, 08:27 AM #3719
I’ll make a comment about the poster, he is the one boating in a PUDDLE, GSB isn’t near as rough as the Great Lakes. As any real offshore racer where the rough water is. Also consider the poster location, he’s a typical too proud to even think someone or something could best them.
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Adding the Labsport GTR's pad width to "The List "
Fastest SOB Rough Water Hulls Powered with stock Mercury 4.6-liter naturally aspirated V8’s (Dyno numbers unknown so far, 6400 RPM Limiter)
#1 Labsport GTR F2 21 – 22'3" Long, Confirmed 96.4MPH -- 9" pad - Driver 28SkaterCa. (300R)
#2 Progression 22 – 22'1" Long, Confirmed 88MPH -- 7" pad - Driver TooStroked (250R)
#3 Nordic SR-21 – 21'1" Long, Claimed 83MPH -- 9" pad (300R)
#4 Velocity USA 230SC – 22'9" Long, Confirmed 77.8MPH -- 12" pad (300R)
Fastest SOB Hulls 2021....All Boats Powered with a stock Mercury 300XS (306HP Dyno and 6400 RPM Limiter)
#1 Bernico F2 21 standard hull-727lbs– 21’4” Long, 6’3” Beam - 24 degree deadrise + 14” pad - Confirmed 98.1MPH Driver Dave Van Steelant
#2 Progression 22 standard hull-948lbs– 22’1” Long, 7’8” Beam - 24 degree variable deadrise + 7" pad - Confirmed 94MPH Driver goneby
#3 Velocity V7 21 standard hull-682lbs– 21’4” Long, 7'1" Beam – 22 degree deadrise + 10 1/4" pad - Confirmed 92MPH Driver 28SkaterCa
#4 Sutphen 21 SS standard hull-1325lbs– 20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam - 20 degree variable deadrise + 3" pad – Claimed 88MPH Driver N/A (525 ran GPS 93.4)
#5 Nordic Crossfire 21/SR-21 standard hull-1475lbs– 21’1" Long, 7’1” Beam - 18 degree deadrise + 9" pad - Confirmed 86MPH Driver wildone
And the fastest of the NLP (no longer produced) hulls....with power noted;
#1 2012 Tuff 21--890lbs– 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 7 1/2" pad - Confirmed 105.9MPH- DBR Merc 15" 300XS - Driver Blake Sewell
#2 2002 Intimidator 21 -- Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad. Confirmed 104.6MPH– Stock Merc 15” 300X(325HP) - Driver Trimmed Out15
#3 1985 Velocity 22 Stepp “Old Style Deck” -- Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12"pad. Confirmed 100.3MPH – Stock Merc 20"300X(325HP)- Driver B kNo023
#4 1986 Superboat 21 Classic -- Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad. Claimed 97MPH - Stock Merc 20” 300X(325HP)- Driver hoser
#5 1976 Challenger 21 -- Hull 1350lbs Deadrise=21.5 Degrees. Confirmed 90MPH -Yamaha 250 HPDI Phase III (326HP) - Driver Jamescole
#6 1990 Activator 21 -- Hull 1475lbs Deadrise=22 Degrees + 5 1/2" pad. Confirmed 84MPH – Stock Yamaha 250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver dnelson964
#7 2012 Velocity US 220 -- Hull-1895lbs – 21’6” Long, 7’11” Beam - Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12" pad. Confirmed 83.5MPH – Merc 300XS - Driver aaronmt7