Fastest SOB hull???

[Greg G]

Anybody have a fast Superboat?

Several have gone 100 even but no idea if that counts as fast.

[Greg G]

About the same as a stock 300R (328 HP). Setup is critical but shows what a beast the 300R is too.

Just curious WavetoWave. Do you have a dyno print for the 328hp you say the 300R makes or are you just guessing?

[WavetoWave]

Several have gone 100 even but no idea if that counts as fast.

It's insanely fast.

[WavetoWave]

Just curious WavetoWave. Do you have a dyno print for the 328hp you say the 300R makes or are you just guessing?

Not guessing.

[WavetoWave]

I'm always more impressed by the boats running with modest power. There's a Tuff 21 with a 150 G2 that does 72 MPH. A 250 ProXS on a 24', I'm sure is really fast. Allison's with 150-200s that run 80-90. Love the efficiency.

And the 300R as impressive as it is, is very heavy and top heavy, it does effect handling.

The original Challenger ran great with a 175 Merc. I'd love to see more people run the new V6 fourstroke. The 225 is a bit of a sleeper. I still believe Merc should've made the ProXS 200 and 225 as a V6, as well as a 225 or 250 R V6. A V8 200 HP makes zero sense to me.

[Pulse186]

Many of these boats are longer than their running surfaces.

Curious if taking the running surface length into account would that change some of the perception of the weight and speed of these boats?

[WavetoWave]

Many of these boats are longer than their running surfaces.

Curious if taking the running surface length into account would that change some of the perception of the weight and speed of these boats?

Yes. The length is mostly an inconsequential variable for the most part when the hull is narrower and lighter. The notch in some of these hulls is substantial.

[RBT]

Length does help with balance with the heavier motors. And for
running surface and notches… this “list” is goofy/biased as for some reason it is based on a set of rules for an inconsequential racing class that has no influence on 99% of the worlds purchasing decisions. Had this list been based on single engine outboard vee bottoms the list would be very different.

[2.5-21]

List needs to be updated

2021 Predator V21 300X 100MPH
About 4 of these have been produced and I'm sure the next few will have 4 strokes on them...

[Pulse186]

Length does help with balance with the heavier motors. And for
running surface and notches… this “list” is goofy/biased as for some reason it is based on a set of rules for an inconsequential racing class that has no influence on 99% of the worlds purchasing decisions. Had this list been based on single engine outboard vee bottoms the list would be very different.

Yes. The length is mostly an inconsequential variable for the most part when the hull is narrower and lighter. The notch in some of these hulls is substantial.

The CL length of the Allison is only 19' not that it takes anything away from how great the boat is but ultimately you are only running on 19' and that likely saves a bit of weight also.

I agree that this list is somewhat "goofy/biased", the Allison isn't known for its rough water prowess and the checkmates were removed for that reason.


Maybe the list should be rewritten for all SOB boats where the speed can be verified and leave it at that. Let the reader decide if a 24 Tuff is on par/in the same class with an Allison.

[Greg G]

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If there was no rough water requirement and you stick to under 24', Allison would probably take all 5 top slots lol. James Gang (an Elder) below .... 132

The S&F Elders also went back and forth and concluded that Checkmates would rattle apart on rough water if I recall. Plenty of banter on that.

OK I may have answered the question. I just found this on an Allison Owners Forum.

"On the 132mph/129mph XR of Glen Reynolds the 2.4lt motor was offset to one side to counter the props rotational pull. Thats a neat {trick} also. That hulls been 135 unofficially. Pretty sure for the average of 129 that day for the record, 132 was the fastest pass that day."

Despite the definition in the first post, the title SOB, is usually given to the rough water 21 foot boats. I love my SS2000, but I don't think anyone cross shops an Allison 21 Bass Boat and a Tuff.

[CUDA]

In your dreams...

[Greg G]

In your dreams...

You are saying that Glen did not do 132 CUDA? Call him up and ask him I have no idea but James Gang seems to.

[WavetoWave]

The CL length of the Allison is only 19' not that it takes anything away from how great the boat is but ultimately you are only running on 19' and that likely saves a bit of weight also.

I agree that this list is somewhat "goofy/biased", the Allison isn't known for its rough water prowess and the checkmates were removed for that reason.


Maybe the list should be rewritten for all SOB boats where the speed can be verified and leave it at that. Let the reader decide if a 24 Tuff is on par/in the same class with an Allison.

Allison doesn't make sport boats anymore unfortunately. I only brought up the prosport bass boat because it's incredibly fast for how heavy it is.

I think most people post here for fun and know there are many boats not on the list.

[Greg G]

Good Looking boat from a new builder. Thanks 2.5.

Any details on the build process or GPS photos. A lot of people talk about all the boats that "should" be on "The List" but they never actually have a name. Predator looking good.