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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
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    Updating List with 28SkaterCa. new V8 top speed .........

    2021's Fastest SOB Rough Water Hulls Powered with stock Mercury 4.6-liter naturally aspirated V8’s (Dyno numbers unknown so far)

    #1 Labsport VF2 21 – Confirmed 96.4MPH -- Owner 28SkaterCa. (300R)
    #2 Progression 22 – Confirmed 88MPH -- Owner TooStroked (250R)
    #3 Velocity USA 230SC – Confirmed 77.8MPH (300R)
    #4 Nordic SR-21 – Claimed 83MPH (300R)


    Fastest SOB Hulls 2019....All Boats Powered with a stock Mercury 300XS (306HP Dyno and 6400 RPM Limiter)

    #1 Tuff 21 kevlar hull-890lbs– 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam - 22 degree deadrise + 71/2" pad - Confirmed 105.9MPH Driver Blake Sewell Canada
    #2 Bernico F2 21 standard hull-727lbs– 21’4” Long, 6’3” Beam - 24 degree deadrise + 14” pad - Confirmed 98.1MPH Driver Dave Van Steelant
    #3 Progression 22 standard hull-948lbs– 22’1” Long, 7’8” Beam - 24 degree variable deadrise + 7" pad - Confirmed 94MPH Driver goneby
    #4 Velocity V7 21 standard hull-682lbs– 21’4” Long, 7'1" Beam – 22 degree deadrise + 10 1/4" pad - Confirmed 92MPH Driver 28SkaterCa
    #5 Sutphen 21 SS standard hull-1325lbs– 20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam - 20 degree variable deadrise + 3" pad – Claimed 88MPH Driver N/A (525 ran GPS 93.4)
    #6 Nordic Crossfire 21/SR-21 standard hull-1475lbs– 21’ Long, 7’1” Beam - 18 degree deadrise + 9" pad - Confirmed 86MPH Driver wildone

    And the fastest of the no longer produced hulls....with power noted;

    #1 2002 Intimidator 21 -- Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad. Confirmed 104.6MPH– Stock Merc 15” 300X(325HP) - Driver Trimmed Out15
    #2 1985 Velocity 22 Stepp “Old Style Deck” -- Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12"pad. Confirmed 100.3MPH – Stock Merc 20"300X(325HP)- Driver B kNo023
    #3 1986 Superboat 21 Classic -- Deadrise=22 Degrees + 6" pad. Claimed 97MPH - Stock Merc 20” 300X(325HP)- Driver hoser
    #4 1976 Challenger 21 -- Hull 1350lbs Deadrise=21.5 Degrees. Confirmed 90MPH -Yamaha 250 HPDI Phase III (326HP) - Driver Jamescole
    #5 1990 Activator 21 -- Hull 1475lbs Deadrise=22 Degrees + 5 1/2" pad. Confirmed 84MPH – Stock Yamaha 250 Ox66 (256HP) - Driver dnelson964
    #6 2012 Velocity US 220 -- Hull-1895lbs – 21’6” Long, 7’11” Beam - Deadrise=22 Degrees + 12" pad. Confirmed 83.5MPH – Merc 300XS - Driver aaronmt7
    It's amazing how close the 250R is to the 300XS in performance. The 250R is priced well, is a mechanical engine so rigging is easier. Underrated engine. A DTS 250 ProXS is even less money if you want a TM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WavetoWave View Post
    The 300R is definitely faster on most boats. One reason some of the SOB boats don't seem to perform better is partially setup but mostly the limitations of the boat itself. The 24 Progression with a 300R is about 5-6 MPH faster for example.

    The SOB boats have too narrow of a pad and aren't aerodynamic enough to exceed certain limitations. That's why the fast boats, ie Tuff 24, Allison 21, Liberator etc see such a dramatic speed improvement with the R over the XS; they're capable of going faster.

    Not saying there's anything wrong with the old style SOB boats, they're just old designs with limitations.
    You are the US dealer for Chaudron. What is the best top speed they have seen on there 22 foot 24 degree ocean eater with a 300XS ?

    Any 300R's yet?
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    Maltese Marauder in full flight. 21' to 24' rough water hulls only on this thread ......lake boats and cats need not apply

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    The 27 has seen 86 with a 300 XS and a couple more with the R. No 300R 22 yet to report but will in the spring.

    The Chaudron is more rough water oriented.

    27 with 300xs
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    Quote Originally Posted by WavetoWave View Post
    No 300 R 22 yet to report but will in the spring...............
    Your Chaudron Pro 22 above will be interesting to see run with a mighty V8 hung on the back. Bolt on a 450 and let it eat. No such thing as "to much" power.

    Twins and even a Triple 2.5 have been done in the past on these smaller deep V style hulls and the designs took the weight and ponies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanMarine View Post
    I wish guys on LI weren't so damn secretive this list would be looking very different
    Could not agree more. Some of them will talk one day soon about the differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    Could not agree more. Some of them will talk one day soon about the differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    Could not agree more. Some of them will talk one day soon about the differences.

    Don't hold your breath

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
    Could not agree more. Some of them will talk one day soon about the differences.
    I think some of them may be experiencing the same setup struggles I've been working through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WavetoWave View Post
    The 27 has seen 86 with a 300 XS and a couple more with the R. No 300R 22 yet to report but will in the spring.

    The Chaudron is more rough water oriented.

    27 with 300xs
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    Thats with a single? If so that's beyond impressive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg G View Post
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    Your Chaudron Pro 22 above will be interesting to see run with a mighty V8 hung on the back. Bolt on a 450 and let it eat. No such thing as "to much" power.

    Twins and even a Triple 2.5 have been done in the past on these smaller deep V style hulls and the designs took the weight and ponies.
    The triples looks like a ski race boat. There's a law of diminishing returns, adding power and weight with marginal speed gains and poor handling, not always the best trade.

    I'm sure some twin 2.5 boats run well,. But I like singles and with the new power, too heavy for twins.

    Again, the 300R outperforms on most hulls and by a large margin. If not, it's usually the boat that is limiting it.

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    The 22 Chaudron should be good with the 300R, the 25 is amazing with the 300R. High 80s with a 30" Bravo FS out of the box. 90-92 with the right setup.

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    Very rare 300R HD with wing plate, SM 1.75.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TooStroked View Post
    I think some of them may be experiencing the same setup struggles I've been working through.
    What struggles are you having?
    21 Intimidator 300x Sold
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBoYUJ58sLE

    1/2 21 Skater 300x Sold
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKNFL8b6kWo

    30 Activator 850 HP Sold
    https://youtu.be/NZgOTNGKzqg

    30 Concept Twin 300Rs

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