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    Quote Originally Posted by mariawhitetrash View Post
    What's 'rough'?
    Throw up some pics/video of the stuff you guys are racing in. I'm not doubting the Allison would get home... But it would not be winning and there would be some sore backs and likely some cracked decks. I think I am bowing out of this debate though. It's silly.
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    I don't have enough motor..only a 200.Can only run 81...someone with more motor would have to step up. I can run WOT in small white caps 12" waves or less and in 2 foot waves I prefer to run no more than 70ish but I am new to the bigger boat, only been out twice so far. I do know I still have slow down considerably for barge wakes, especially the ones going up river and wakboard boats pulling surfers and wakeboards or it will leave the water.
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    Gulp gulp.. Drink some Allison Kool aid guys and the answer becomes clear lmfao!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xb03fs View Post
    I do know I still have slow down considerably for barge wakes, especially the ones going up river and wakboard boats pulling surfers and wakeboards or it will leave the water.
    There is your difference...SOB's crush wakes and survive...
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    So a SOB can run WOT over barge rollers that are eye level at rest? If it is buttery smooth that is impressive. The allison will survive it but it is jarring.. I have hit them at 70+ in the 2003 before and gotten airborn...I have not tried and have no intentions of hitting them at those speeds even in the new boat if I have the chance to slow down.....on the Mississippi when they are are going up river you hit the rollers long before you see the barge.. when the tugs are pushing 9 or 12 barges up river they really kick up some water
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    I'll put some pics and video up later of our last race... No wakes cos there was nobody else out, but plenty of airtime and some nice splits in my outboard well!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by xb03fs View Post
    So a SOB can run WOT over barge rollers that are eye level at rest? or know? If so that is impressive. The allison will do it but it is jarring.. I have hit them at 70+ in the 2003 before and gotten airborn....on the Missippi when they are are going up river you hit the rollers long before you see the barge..
    One boat is designed for fishing...the other for racing offshore. Stop drinking your livewell water and get your head in the game . These are two COMPLETELY different boats. My boat will beat up on an Alliston in the rough but it doesn't compare to a Tuff when keeping the speed up in the junk...
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    Quote Originally Posted by xb03fs View Post
    I don't have enough motor..only a 200.Can only run 81...someone with more motor would have to step up. I can run WOT in small white caps 12" waves or less and in 2 foot waves I prefer to run no more than 70ish but I am new to the bigger boat, only been out twice so far. I do know I still have slow down considerably for barge wakes, especially the ones going up river and wakboard boats pulling surfers and wakeboards or it will leave the water.
    Our SOB style boats weigh in rigged around 2100-2600lbs, 21 degree deep pad vee (at least) and run over wake water waves with no second thoughts holding between 69-90 mph. SOB class was made to run ocean and large bay waters which get very choppy and 2' might be considered average to small waves more often then not. We actually go faster with more chop/junk then not.
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    People often exaggerate the size of the water they run in

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnemous View Post
    People often exaggerate the size of the water they run in
    Often after catching an 8.5lb small mouth bass.....just sayin'....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnelson964 View Post
    Our SOB style boats weigh in rigged around 2100-2600lbs, 21 degree deep pad vee (at least) and run over wake water waves with no second thoughts holding wide open 80-90 mph. SOB class was made to run ocean and large bay waters which get very choppy and 2' would be considered average to small waves more often then not. We actually go faster with more chop/junk then not.
    You wouldn't run 80-90 in what we race in, last weekend we had Bobby Saccenti's new 42ft Chief with a pair of 725 ilmors over endurance racing, and they weren't running that! Fastest average speed for our racing this season had been 71.3mph, that's over his 3 quickest laps of a 4 mile circuit, and it's a 26ft cat with twin 260s. The 20-23ft single 200hp boats average below 65mph, and there's at least one capable of 80+ top end in race trim


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    Quote Originally Posted by mariawhitetrash View Post
    You wouldn't run 80-90 in what we race in, last weekend we had Bobby Saccenti's new 42ft Chief with a pair of 725 ilmors over endurance racing, and they weren't running that! Fastest average speed for our racing this season had been 71.3mph, that's over his 3 quickest laps of a 4 mile circuit, and it's a 26ft cat with twin 260s. The 20-23ft single 200hp boats average below 65mph, and there's at least one capable of 80+ top end in race trim
    And how do you figure an Allison XB, Triad V21 or STV SRV would fair in those conditions....not so good I imagine lol.
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    Regardless... Lake boats are not gonna do it. I can run my boat in the white cap type water you are referring too at pretty big speeds.. But I know I don't like the feeling of being air borne in my lake boat... Especially the landing.. lol. Dok's boat is built WAY stronger than mine, or any Allison for that matter. but runs fairly similar.
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    Just curious, never been around the ocean don't know what ocean boats are supposed to do....Best riding boat I ave been in is an LCB cat that ate up some rough water but even that boat had a point where it didn't like the bigger waves. Will a SOB outride an LCB? or 21 Skater?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnemous View Post
    People often exaggerate the size of the water they run in

    Hope you can make the next run Mike the Merc boys were over run.
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