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    Quote Originally Posted by moatorbotin View Post
    I guess I don't understand why you separate them then?

    In class 7 the fastest boat matters zero, the boat that wins the most races matters, and that could be a boat that might only go 70 on a good day outside of the race course.

    Once they are not a class 7 racing boat anymore, they aren't any different than the other SOB's, they just mad the tuff is faster still
    Haha. Relax. Nobody is mad. It's just a way to look at the different boats.
    The Allison's are the fastest, along with the Tuffs. I personally like the 24' Tuff the best and the 27 Chaudron.

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    Who isn’t relaxed?

    of course they’re too big for “class 7” talk, but my two favs are the tuff 24 and progression 24LD.

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    You guys can ask the original poster but I believe that the guy was looking for 21'-24' SOB V hulls that would handle the rough water of Long Island Sound.

    It can swell up pretty heavily just like the GSB and the Great Lakes. The thread moved quickly in the first two or three years to Progression's 22, Tuff's 21, Velocity and any similar rough water hulls. So yes Class 7, you guys are correct about that in terms of a 25 footer being too long. The "spirit" of the thread over the years always has been focused on a certain type of SOB. The higher freeboard, deeper V hulls that can make it through more then just 2' chop and easily hold together, then go chase the big number on a smooth day and still fit inside your garage. The speeds had to be proven and there had to be rough water pictures to back up the hull's claims, or they did not qualify. I just read the first two pages of this thread and it looks like the OP and others lay it out clearly but hey, that's me.

    Over the years true documented speeds started to surface with 300XS power and rough water photos. Then the multiple pictures of the foreign built "Class 7" type and size boats like Labsport and V7 and Bernico came into USA waters and got posted on "The List". Allison holds the flat water record at 129 mph.

    Now the new taller Mercury V8 4 stroke motors are showing up on The List and doing well so far.

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    From the OP 302Sport ..........

    Quote Originally Posted by 302Sport View Post
    21-24ft, what is the fastest with a single outboard???
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripstop View Post
    Obviously a cat hull of some type,<o>
    As far as specifics i think it's all about setup and weight so probably a Liberator maybe a lightweight Eliminator
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    Quote Originally Posted by 302Sport View Post
    No cats just vee bottoms. APBA used to have a SOB class that specified vee bottom single OB 21-24ft. Looking for something in that range
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    I am sure this will become interesting. There area few variables depending on which water you are looking to run. Progression,tuff, Superboat, Intimidator have all broken that 100 mph mark
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT View Post
    Hands down the Tuff 21 is the fastest single engine fee bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 302Sport View Post
    Run the Long Island sound, so looking for something that would run decent in some slop
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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT View Post
    If you like how a challenger 21 rides, you will love thetuff. It has the added benefit of a ballast tank to make the ride even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeylarge View Post
    If you run the sound, the fastest hull really isnot very important. A progression 24ld with a 300xs will get you into low 80s and handle big water very nicely, A 24 superboat will do very well in big big water but tends to run slower overall
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    Quote Originally Posted by mariawhitetrash View Post
    Bernico
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnelson964 View Post
    Like Mikey said above... he's on the money.21'-22's will be faster on calmer days but the LI sound most normal days is 2'-3' chop and with long rollers. It often kicks up fast to 4' or better also so it's hard to run 'full out' anyway. Heavier weight boats run better in that.<o>
    If money is NO object I would include a Bernico F2 for sure but good luck finding one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    Around here Tuff boat is like a unicorn
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    I was looking for the same thing that's why after considerable research I bought a Chaudron 22. Delivery was around the 1-year mark, the hull is more than proven in heavy weather, and still has the capability to be in the century club.

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    We need pics of said Chaudron 22 !

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    How fast was that red predator with a 300x? That's now for sale less power?

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    Click image for larger version. 

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    That's sweet looking! What power are you going with?

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    300r

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    A new category, fastest SOB with a 150. This is from Tuff's facebook page.Click image for larger version. 

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    FORSALE Special build!!
    2012 TUFF21

    Light Full Kevlar build one of one, Ballast tank, High back seats, Hydraulic jack plate, Full boat cover, Cockpit cover, Speed hatch, 2018 Evinrude 150 HO, 74mph with 150HO, 178 hours on engine, Power head replaced at 158 hours

    customer is upgrading to new TUFF20, Asking $79,500 CND, 62,000 USD

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    Tuff 20 competition with a stock 280 ran 115mph this morning.
    2023 TUFF 25

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    I also saw that the 28 went 110 with a single 450. Too big to be a SOB as defined here way back when, but with today’s bigger motors a re- think might be in order.

    I wonder what the 20 would run with my 200XS.

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    The 20 is flat out flying with the 280 and minimal testing time so far!

    I am looking to make the trip over this weekend if I can get my drive repaired and do some prop testing!!!
    TJ @ Baker Engineering
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    3.75@199mph with LSX power!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellbents-10 View Post
    The 20 is flat out flying with the 280 and minimal testing time so far!

    I am looking to make the trip over this weekend if I can get my drive repaired and do some prop testing!!!
    We do the Sunday Breakfast Club run @ 8 A.M. on Lake Muskoka!

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