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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT View Post
    The new Tuff 20 is narrower, deeper and slightly longer than the Tuff 21/Challenger it replaces. It is going to be A LOT better in rough water than most of the boats on this list.
    As for weight, it is built with modern materials and methods much like those in Europe. They are just as light as the Tuff's. What i find funny is how the west coast low dead rise resin buckets are assumed to be good riding boats.
    It's a lake boat, which is awesome. It couldn't possibly be better in rough water than most of the boats on the list. Maybe the list has changed. But a traditional class 7 / SOB, Progression, Velocity, Challenger etc. are solid in rough water. Boats like the Chaudron etc are much deeper V and are built for the ocean and racing.

    It's not a knock, I love pad bottom rippers like the Tuff and Allison, they just aren't made for the open ocean though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacktruck View Post
    It's a lake boat, which is awesome. It couldn't possibly be better in rough water than most of the boats on the list. Maybe the list has changed. But a traditional class 7 / SOB, Progression, Velocity, Challenger etc. are solid in rough water. Boats like the Chaudron etc are much deeper V and are built for the ocean and racing.

    It's not a knock, I love pad bottom rippers like the Tuff and Allison, they just aren't made for the open ocean though.
    That statement is pure fiction. If you use the challenger 21 as reference, this is longer narrower and deeper, just because it’s fast doesn’t negate it from rough water.
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    LIGHT just means you have to be a better driver in the ruff, heavy is comfortable but slow. My 24 would be great I just have too much set back.
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    ...define fast in the ocean...(in a sob 21 footer)...

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    A Tuff is a completely different animal in waves then a 20’ Allison. I have driven a GS and a 21 Tuff. I own an SS2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FUJIMO View Post
    ...define fast in the ocean...(in a sob 21 footer)...
    Lol exactly, capable as any other boat of equal length
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    Love Tuff boats but it’s not really designed as a rough water King……

    Quote from Mark Weigl……
    We could make a rough water wave killer Vee bottom but why? There are lots of them out there, so we seem to be in the “worlds fastest in category” game of Vee bottoms.

    Copied from Wave to Wave…
    https://www.wavetowave.com/home/2017...gl-tuff-marine

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    I think length is the biggest factor! I am not a professional offshore racer so I will not be wave jumping 4-8ft waves in the ocean in something less then 35' in length lol.

    Being this thread is completely subjective with very few people sampling all of these boats, maybe it should just go to the one with the most class wins?
    Last edited by hellbents-10; 07-01-2022 at 07:05 AM.
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    Quote from Thomas Weigl on Facebook last week: "Derek Gander every boat is custom built for the customers boating needs and environment if you need it to pound waves will build it to do that if you run rivers will build it to do that"
    https://fb.watch/d_NqqDR9WZ/

    What I'd like to know is why are they calling it a "20," when it's 21'10" long?


    Quote Originally Posted by Rak Rua View Post
    Love Tuff boats but it’s not really designed as a rough water King……

    Quote from Mark Weigl……
    We could make a rough water wave killer Vee bottom but why? There are lots of them out there, so we seem to be in the “worlds fastest in category” game of Vee bottoms.

    Copied from Wave to Wave…
    https://www.wavetowave.com/home/2017...gl-tuff-marine

    RR

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    Is it true....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant Conklin View Post
    Quote from Thomas Weigl on Facebook last week: "Derek Gander every boat is custom built for the customers boating needs and environment if you need it to pound waves will build it to do that if you run rivers will build it to do that"
    https://fb.watch/d_NqqDR9WZ/

    What I'd like to know is why are they calling it a "20," when it's 21'10" long?
    There is a 6 year wait to buy a new Tuff?

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    The SS2000 is 18’9” centerline and it’s a ‘20’, LOL

    Do you count the side transom extensions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2.5-21 View Post
    There is a 6 year wait to buy a new Tuff?
    Yep, I’ll bet they produce more boats than the entire sob list here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant Conklin View Post
    Quote from Thomas Weigl on Facebook last week: "Derek Gander every boat is custom built for the customers boating needs and environment if you need it to pound waves will build it to do that if you run rivers will build it to do that"
    https://fb.watch/d_NqqDR9WZ/

    What I'd like to know is why are they calling it a "20," when it's 21'10" long?
    because they advertise running length. Not total length
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