anybody on here hear rumors of the new v8 etec?

[Instigator]

we are not making an etec copy here just adding direct injection to a carb motor so hence the computer can pump the oil in the front
whats with the cooling issues?

My 3.3 hot rod project began as a Ficht which was a behind the liner motor. Other than that, esentially identical to a carb motor and I see no reason why a carb to E-Tec conversion wouldn't work. I know people have done the reverse by cutting the D.I. part off the top of the pistons and running them!
Would be expensive to got carb to E-Tec but looks plausible to me. Pistons, heads being the biggest difference from carb to D.I. My Ficht even had the same intake as the carb motors.

[powerabout]

The Rick McChesney drawings show a std deflector engine with the injector on a big angle.
I wonder if they ever made one?

[Instigator]

The Rick McChesney drawings show a std deflector engine with the injector on a big angle.
I wonder if they ever made one?

Never heard of that.

[Capt.Insane-o]

i am a massive etec fan and i have heard of a few etecs blowing up with low hours and tbe story is always tbe same. Trying to run with no oil or bad oil.

Most of it is improper set up by the dealer and trash fuel.

[Speed Jr.]

Most of it is improper set up by the dealer and trash fuel.

Ding ding ding we have a winner!

[powerabout]

Never heard of that.

me either, I just accidently found it as a patent.
I did talk about it to the OMC/BRP service manager in OZ who knew about it
Cant remember how I found it?

[VectorPat]

Most of it is improper set up by the dealer and trash fuel.

This is the samething that killed many Yamaha HPDIs

[baja200merk]

My 3.3 hot rod project began as a Ficht which was a behind the liner motor. Other than that, esentially identical to a carb motor and I see no reason why a carb to E-Tec conversion wouldn't work. I know people have done the reverse by cutting the D.I. part off the top of the pistons and running them!
Would be expensive to got carb to E-Tec but looks plausible to me. Pistons, heads being the biggest difference from carb to D.I. My Ficht even had the same intake as the carb motors.

Thats what I was thinking. If your making pistons for it you might as well just cut finger ports in them. Who cares if its behind the liner or not, piston porting works. Daves open deck 3.3 is piston ported thats why it doesnt have any weld or putty on it.

[powerabout]

we are chatting about why you cant add an etec injector head to any engine

[phantomuk]

have been told your fuel in the US is not geeat so yeah. unfortunately i know 3 engines that have gone bang because the owners either run out of oil and carried on running or run out got air lock and then picked up.

[Capt.Insane-o]

This is the samething that killed many Yamaha HPDIs

o man I went through that deal and the water ingestion fiasco..

we are chatting about why you cant add an etec injector head to any engine

BRP has gone through 4 (?) different oiling systems for the v motors and numerous (LOTS) map changes, the fuel/ignition mapping is extremely complex and if you think some easy retrofit to a turd ass old 2 stroke is just going to be a bolt on, well whatever. Ignorance is bliss.

[VectorPat]

o man I went through that deal and the water ingestion fiasco..

Ah yes, water ingestion. I could go on for days about that. It kept me busy for quite awhile

[powerabout]

o man I went through that deal and the water ingestion fiasco..



BRP has gone through 4 (?) different oiling systems for the v motors and numerous (LOTS) map changes, the fuel/ignition mapping is extremely complex and if you think some easy retrofit to a turd ass old 2 stroke is just going to be a bolt on, well whatever. Ignorance is bliss.

They are trying to use very low quantities of oil via direct oil passages, are you saying because the engine has direct injection it will no longer run if the oil goes in the front?
That would be news to several other DFI brands

[Instigator]

Ah yes, water ingestion. I could go on for days about that. It kept me busy for quite awhile

I heard same on the E-Tec's. ****ty installations and fuel contamination. Guys were pulling there old turd, 1973 Mako's in and expecting to get a new boat back.

[Instigator]

we are chatting about why you cant add an etec injector head to any engine

The "ONLY" difference between my 3.3 Ficht and 3.3 Mad EFI motor was pistons and heads. Other smaller differences (upper main carrier, coil mounts etc) but clearly used to be an old carb motor in an earlier life. I see no reason you couldn't strip a DI motor and screw everything on a carb motor. Not sure why you'd want to but.......
If your carb motor was modded though, the OEM fuel map would be lean and toast it.
Although they have been crucified by everyone w/a mouth and or computer, I still see many, many solid Ficht's down here w/a ton of hours on them.
Al told me a while back that he has many customers that prefer them to the E-Tec's. They claimed they're faster and more fuel efficient.
Hard to see it though w/the superior front half and reed blocks of the E-Tec's.