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    I'm afraid to give the computer complete control, lol
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    You can probably set the range (rpm band) in wich to run closed loop say 2000 to 4000 rpm everything above that i would do by hand to
    And midrange is most time consuming anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrcrsr View Post
    I'm afraid to give the computer complete control, lol
    LMAO.....couldn't agree more, i.e. Rise of The Machines (Terminator) is what happens when you relinquish total control...




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    Quote Originally Posted by Liberator*21 View Post
    LMAO.....couldn't agree more, i.e. Rise of The Machines (Terminator) is what happens when you relinquish total control...
    Ya they decide to put windows in blocks.lol

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    Camaro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MODVP22 View Post
    Camaro?
    Oh yeah, 10.5 @ 128, it's a bad azz street car.




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    the camaro is stone age, and is blow thru carbureted, the only computer it has is a microsquirt running the 4l80e transmission. the boat has the capability to run a wideband, already installed the bung for it. here's a pic of the camaro engine bay, i think one of my future projects is to put a turbo on the skater engine.....
    action mobile marine, 772 528 0754, dealers for aces fuel products,wolf efi, pro marine,latham and gaffrig/livorsi. we build gearcases and modify them(3 litre) to ratchet, and powerheads as well. 21 skater/3 litre wolf efi 113 mph the engine build http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...-3-litre-build

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    Personally dont like closed loop auto mapping... Good idea in principle, but doesn't work so great in practice unless under controlled driving conditions...

    Interesting reading this thread however. As regards to extra fuel, any chance of getting an exhaust gas analyser (may not be practical at all) and seeing what kind of unburnt hydrocarbons you have before and after to see how efficient combustion is?

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    Closed loop works fine when you have things totally dialed in. But that takes a lot of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Strong View Post
    Closed loop works fine when you have things totally dialed in. But that takes a lot of work.

    Dave
    took me about 2 minutes the change the necessary settings ( AFR map range, minimum engine temp closed loop to high) that,s all
    a shame i had issues with my dyno supply pump so i could not get it
    to the full throttle high rpm ranges

    plz tell what system where you running on what engine
    and what settings did you have to change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Strong View Post
    Closed loop works fine when you have things totally dialed in. But that takes a lot of work.

    Dave
    I will use closed loop for example part throttle close look fuelling for efficiency, but never use it to create a fuel map.

    Gotta say though, that video above is interesting Going to fit MS2 on my V6 at some point
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    Quote Originally Posted by madgadget View Post
    I will use closed loop for example part throttle close look fuelling for efficiency, but never use it to create a fuel map.

    Gotta say though, that video above is interesting Going to fit MS2 on my V6 at some point
    go for the MS3 and use capacitive discharge ignition
    and the other extra features
    well worth the extra money

    <iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/46q35k1UNMM" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="720" width="960"></iframe>
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    i figured i would just use the wideband for a tuning reference, i don't really trust the computer enough to let it auto tune. i'll hook up the wideband with the engine in its current configuration to get an idea of where its at . i've got a couple more engines to rebuild for customers and then i'll revisit the mad efi intake.
    action mobile marine, 772 528 0754, dealers for aces fuel products,wolf efi, pro marine,latham and gaffrig/livorsi. we build gearcases and modify them(3 litre) to ratchet, and powerheads as well. 21 skater/3 litre wolf efi 113 mph the engine build http://www.screamandfly.com/showthre...-3-litre-build

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    ronnie(or anyone else) the 2.5 litre cd ignition with switchboxes, i know it is possible to electronically retard timing by the use of the bias wire between the 2 switchboxes, how would you use a computer(like the wolf) to do it. gonna do another wolf project down the road.
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    hi charly i don,t use the original switch boxes
    i started out with that idea but dropped it because i could not get it to work with the 5 volt output of the MS3X card
    http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewto...?f=125&t=52253
    i build my own with the help of thierry of the http://www.transmic.net/ site
    the key is that the ecu should be able to do a coil dwell signal in % of the crankshaft rotation ( i use 90% )
    meaning the thyristor gate is kept low during 90% of the crank rotation in this time it,s charging the capacitor through the stator ignition coils
    when the signal goes high the thyristor discharges the capacitor and the charge is released to the ignition coil

    i have been looking in the wolf software but i don,t think you can do that with the wolf ecu (but you can ask them)
    you will have to go with and after-market unit of
    http://www.mwignitions.com/pg_data_sheets.php
    or maybe vipec
    aem seems to have stopped making one ( can,t find it anymore )
    i am working on a DC version that should work as a drop in replacement based on the sport-devices design
    http://www.sportdevices.com/ignition/inverter.htm
    if it works you could use it with the normal coil dwell signal
    but this is proving challenging to say the least
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