Hands (foots?) down THE best foot throttle controller ever

**jpf091959** · 09-30-2014, 05:43 PM

Thanks, I believe my weak link is the bearing carrier and it looks like you have that figured out. I may have to order a pair from you.

I like what you are doing.

**Bobbyclam** · 09-30-2014, 06:36 PM

Where do I sign up ?

**Liberator*21** · 10-01-2014, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by Bobbyclam

Where do I sign up ?

I've got you covered when the release date comes,thanks for your interest, I'll be in-touch.

**Liberator*21** · 10-01-2014, 03:50 AM

Originally Posted by jpf091959

Thanks, I believe my weak link is the bearing carrier and it looks like you have that figured out. I may have to order a pair from you.

I like what you are doing.

Thank you, greatly appreciate your comments.

**CRMERC** · 10-02-2014, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by Liberator*21

Ok, I'm gotta speak up here only because I bought one for my boat (because of all the great talk about them), BUT...... wasn't very happy with it. First of all please understand, I'm an Retired Engineer who designed Jet Engine components for over 30 years at GE and looked at the In-Control throttle accordingly)...............

It uses nylon rollers from Home Depot for a kitchen drawer.....seriously !!!!!!, this is where I said "NO FREAK'N WAY !!!!!

So here's my take on the whole deal:

The engine end of the cable attachment link is comprised of 3 pieces that are epoxied together, that's a poor design, the spring housing is also made up of 2 pieces, brass and plastic that are pinched pricked together, no total containment of the rollers in case of something came loose causing a misalignment that would jam up the control, that's not what I'd call a great product for the $$$$$ they charge, certain aspects of the design are way overkill while others are surely lacking, although the concept is great, just comes up short. There's no total containment of the roller system for alignment or safety should anything ever come loose in the 2 pc linkage and the linkage allows the rollers to come out of their tracks.

I've decided to just make what I think would be a better product for less $$$$:

I've decided to make my own version of the foot throttle using better materials everywhere throughout its design and build using superior materials as "bearing grade" Delrin/Acetal rollers twice as wide as the kitchen drawer rollers they use, 1/4" stainless axles on the rollers instead of a #10 steel screw, pedal link to the rollers will be a billet one piece custom ball milled "I" beam design roller link, far more stable and provide perfect alignment all the time vs. their 2 rail cable clamping system. I wasn't impressed with the use of Home Depot 5/16 ID nylon washers on 1/4" screws, kinda cheap and sloppy. My one piece rail has a much more user friendly and positive cable retention system, instead of clamping the cable between the 2 piece linkage on theirs, mine provides a cable track cut into the linkage rod with 3 stainless retention screws. At the engine end, my spring housing is "ONE" piece unit custom machined and my engine cable control link is also "ONE" piece design. There is "NOTHING" in my design that will corrode or rust in a marine environment, they can't say that about theirs. I also use custom made Delrin washers throughout not the cheap Home Depot type over sized nylon washers theirs uses. Mine also offers 3 fully adjustable pedal positions that offer a custom fit angle for you foot based on how you sit in your boat. Working on the prototype now and should be offering these for sale this fall/winter.

I already have a few S&F members lined up for the first run of controls when they become available and have told them to go over my design with a very, very critical eye and post up truthfully on what they got for their money, which by the way will be "far less" than the In-Control units. I promise that you that you "WILL" get more/better for less money spent.

Stay tuned as custom tooling is currently being made, NC programming in progress, fixtures made, anodizing tanks built etc, etc...... May offer custom color anodizing for those looking for something to match their boats design (Bling-Bling). So if you want a smooth foot control of the highest design and build, hang onto your money a little longer as I'm ramping up to make these available before spring 2015 and the money you'll save will buy you a lot of fuel to start out the season.

It will happen and be offered right here on S&F.

I know Jim who made the in-control throttle and I can tell you he is far from a guy who takes short cuts. the first one I bought from him has got to be near 30 years old at this point and I still have it and it works fine.

**bigboy** · 10-02-2014, 04:49 PM

Looks great.

How much does it weighs compared with a hot foot?

Thanks

**Liberator*21** · 10-03-2014, 04:34 AM

CRMERC, (No disrespect met towards Jim), as I've stated in this thread before, the original concept/design on the IN-CONTROL foot throttle is beautiful "but" falls a little short of what I would consider a perfect unit. The Home Depot drawer rollers, and the open track are not the best idea and have caused problems for some users, foot pedal itself it too thick of material (wasted extra weight) for what it does and having to snake all that excess cable through the the pedal is not my idea of what it should be. I'll always say the intent & design were brilliant, but not totally fulfilling enough for me. So my bottom line is....

I'm building a better mouse trap !

Current Prototype being tested:

**Liberator*21** · 10-03-2014, 05:52 AM

Hey Fred (fnsii), I've replied to your PM, thanks for your interest.

**Liberator*21** · 10-03-2014, 06:02 AM

Originally Posted by bigboy

Looks great.

How much does it weighs compared with a hot foot?

Thanks

bigboy,

My version weighs in at:
1.330 Kg/1330 g or 2 LB 15 OZ.
I did have the weight of a Hot Foot but can't locate it at this time (sorry) so I honestly can't quote you a value difference. If I locate it, I'll let you know.

**patchesII** · 10-03-2014, 06:24 AM

A regular Hot Foot weighs just over 4 lbs

**Liberator*21** · 10-03-2014, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by patchesII

A regular Hot Foot weighs just over 4 lbs

Thank you......:-)

**MODVP22** · 10-03-2014, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Liberator*21

CRMERC, (No disrespect met towards Jim), as I've stated in this thread before, the original concept/design on the IN-CONTROL foot throttle is beautiful "but" falls a little short of what I would consider a perfect unit. The Home Depot drawer rollers, and the open track are not the best idea and have caused problems for some users, foot pedal itself it too thick of material (wasted extra weight) for what it does and having to snake all that excess cable through the the pedal is not my idea of what it should be. I'll always say the intent & design were brilliant, but not totally fulfilling enough for me. So my bottom line is....

I'm building a better mouse trap !

Current Prototype being tested:

everyone is thinking it, so I'll say it.....polished to a high luster finish or powdercoated

**Liberator*21** · 10-03-2014, 07:57 AM

Tom, leave it to you to bring in the "BLING-BLING" factor........ Polish to a high shine is possible "BUT" would add to much to the cost as the labor to do so would go against what I'm trying to provide, a top quality piece of equipment guaranteed for life at a working mans price point. Now that doesn't mean you can't buy one bare and spend all winter on the buffer.....