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    Quote Originally Posted by RogerH View Post
    What's the "story" 'bout these gearcases. These were received with Diablo 3 1-RH, 1-LH but they both have #4/6 propshafts installed. Did the factory make an SSM with these prop shafts, or did someone modify them?

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    What about them makes you think that they are 4/6 shafts and not later style, larger diameter SSM's? Our later style T2x SSM props fit directly on the early "crescent" units (#4's)
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    20 Foot Switzer Wing 2 X S3000 (Dust'n the Wind II)
    !6 foot Wood Eltro Vee (2X Merc 1500's) (Dust'n the Wind IV)
    15 foot Powercat 15C (2 X Merc 1500) (Dust'n the Wind III)
    (Single engine boats are lacking something)
    15 Wooden Switzer Shooting Star...
    16 foot Lee Craft Merc S 3000-(Gold Dust II)
    (The exception proves the rule)
    Obsolete and Proud of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x View Post
    Roger:

    What about them makes you think that they are 4/6 shafts and not later style, larger diameter SSM's? Our later style T2x SSM props fit directly on the early "crescent" units (#4's)
    Rich, I have never seen a picture posted or comment about a SSM gearcase (prior to the #4/#6 release) that came from the factory with prop shafts this size in diameter. Just trying to see if these were done by Mercury or someone else.

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    WE used the same props on the later SSM's and the early Crescents (4's)
    20 Foot Switzer Wing 2 X S3000 (Dust'n the Wind II)
    !6 foot Wood Eltro Vee (2X Merc 1500's) (Dust'n the Wind IV)
    15 foot Powercat 15C (2 X Merc 1500) (Dust'n the Wind III)
    (Single engine boats are lacking something)
    15 Wooden Switzer Shooting Star...
    16 foot Lee Craft Merc S 3000-(Gold Dust II)
    (The exception proves the rule)
    Obsolete and Proud of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raceman View Post
    I just stumbled on this looking for another old thread. The unit pictured here appears to be the one in post #2 on page 1 with some hacking done on it, although it could be any of the SSM's after the MC1 with the same whacking. To the best of my knowledge there are only 2 diameters of the bullet on the SSM's with the MC1 being the only larger diameter, through the last SSM made BEFORE the VI's and IV's came out. I don't have the diameter of either within my easy reach, but all of 'em had the same small propshaft and would take the same props, with the exception of the earlier style (again, picture in post #2) which had the long exhaust snout that would interfere.
    I learned second hand from Mr. Steckbauer that these lower units are the predecessors of the Merc IV lower units used now.
    I'll try to find out more this summer when I get them rebuilt.
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    Evolution? How about Extinction?

    Saw on the web someplace that the MSRP for a bare machined case for the #6 is now a whopping $9800! No bearings, prop shaft, water pump, pinions, seals, nose piece, etc. I remember getting complete #6's out of the box from Mercury HP for $4500.................Also saw a PR release on S&F from Mercury for pricing and parts availability for 2018 that seems to imply that the screen "goes dark" for any Mercury OPC parts at all in 2019 (except existing inventory?).

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    .This is the thread that links the Molly B lower unit...….W/4 inch housing...….I have a 4 inch but it's a different { style} using a D mercury clamp bracket Who ever made them..... I think they were made for V4 Rudes because the housing is wide and has the V4 bolt pattern.....to use a Merc lower ya have to hack up the front of the SSM and the 8 hole are for OMC pattern......An adaptor plate is used to use the Merc gearcase.....JMO

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    photo dave?

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    Photos Of 4" Housing

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ID:	467829 This is the 4" housing with an OMC racing 1 to 1 cut to fit.

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ID:	467830 This is with a Mercury gearcase. It had to be cut to fit.

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    More Pix Of 4" Housing

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ID:	467831 This is the inside of the housing showing the OMC bolt pattern and width of the housing to fit the OMC. Also showing the 2 rear bolt holes from Mercury The front is missing attachment points for the gearcase but an adapter has that and bolts to the OMC pattern. The housing has the letters JM cast into the side. This is old forgotten racing stuff.

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ID:	467835 This picture shows how the front of the gearcase has to be cut off to fit the inside of the housing. Picture shows comparison of Mercury and OMC case. Racers had a tendency of hacking up old racing treasures.

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    Mine are cast stainless steel and were built by Molly Ballou's brother. Ron Jones may have been involved with building and selling them also.
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    Hey Mark N..Are the lower units you have LH and RH ? do you know what the gear ratios are? thanks Dave S.

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    They are left and right. I don't know the gear ratio.
    I was told by one of the ex drivers of the Molly Bee that they also ran only right hand gear cases but had one motor run left hand.
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    That would be a righthand left case..... also would be marked CR . The right gear sets were,,,,, stronger..... no PS flex. I have the kit that runs the motor left if you need......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave S View Post
    That would be a righthand left case..... also would be marked CR . The right gear sets were,,,,, stronger..... no PS flex. I have the kit that runs the motor left if you need......
    Yes, I may be interested. I sent you a message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave S View Post
    The right gear sets were,,,,, stronger..... no PS flex...
    ...thought they were the same driven gear sets, used either rotation, but applied right-hand, the propshaft & bearing support load placement handled it better. No? (straight cut gears)
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