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    Mostly my thought on all my engines also. I would like to believe they (manufacturers) have half an idea of what to recommend to their consumers. oil and gas are the cheap parts of most of todays gas powered toys as far as I see it any ways.

    Quote Originally Posted by pointer View Post
    Maybe I just don't get it? Boat costs how much? Add the etec, trailer etc? And the price difference between XD 100 and the Sierra is how much?

    I run what the manufacturer recommends. Boat, truck, snowmobiles, lawn tractor - you name it, if I own it the dealer sees me on a regular basis, buying the manufacturer recommended products. When I have an issue the dealer knows me, and takes care of me. To me that is worth the price difference to aftermarket.

    To me it is a no brainer. I'll spend a few extra bucks to buy the manufacturers products, support the dealer and the brand. Guess I'm brand loyal, I dunno.
    When I started running my own boat 25 yrs ago, I remember commenting to a buddy about the cost of gas and oil. His words of advice were "if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch".

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    Always and only XD100 oil with XD50 setting on our Etecs........
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    Quote Originally Posted by seahorse View Post
    Just to clarify things:

    You can use any TC-W3 certified oil in an E-TEC at the normal factory setting, or any of the Evinrude oils. That satisifies the factory warranty and satisfies the government, no problem.

    If you decide to have your dealer program the motor for the optional reduced-oil setting, then you HAVE to use the XD-100 oil. There is no substitute in BRP Evinrude's eyes any any lubrication failure from other oils would not be covered in the reduced-oil setting.
    I forgot to mention that, thanks for the clarification.

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    So, the XD-50 and the XD-100 oils are a mixture all there own? It's not like the XD-50 is semi synthetic and the XD-100 is full synthetic?
    Can I run XD-50 or XD-100 in a carbed motor? Would I be able to try it to see if it makes a difference?

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    You can run XD30 (Dino Oil) XD50 or XD100 in a carbed motor.

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    It would have been worthwhile asking Sierra about the warranty, but their website has now changed after the merger with Teleflex, and the XD-100 equivalent oil is no longer presented.

    I wonder if they pulled it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pointer View Post
    Maybe I just don't get it? Boat costs how much? Add the etec, trailer etc? And the price difference between XD 100 and the Sierra is how much?

    I run what the manufacturer recommends. Boat, truck, snowmobiles, lawn tractor - you name it, if I own it the dealer sees me on a regular basis, buying the manufacturer recommended products. When I have an issue the dealer knows me, and takes care of me. To me that is worth the price difference to aftermarket.

    To me it is a no brainer. I'll spend a few extra bucks to buy the manufacturers products, support the dealer and the brand. Guess I'm brand loyal, I dunno.
    When I started running my own boat 25 yrs ago, I remember commenting to a buddy about the cost of gas and oil. His words of advice were "if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch".

    pointer
    Like Seahorse, you work at a BRP dealer, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LIQUID NIRVANA View Post
    You can run XD30 (Dino Oil) XD50 or XD100 in a carbed motor.
    XD50 is a blend like Merc Prem+ - XD100 is in a world of its own - I will also say there is also a DFI rating on oil, so to say TCW3 is OK for an Etec or Opti is not really correct. DFI motors induce the oil in a different way than say carbs or EFI - so it always should be at least DFI rated.

    Markus not sure whats with you, BRP or any dealer is not getting rich selling oil - I use Merc Prem+ and its $25 a gal bulk - XD100 is only like $8 more and they use 1/2 or so, wish I could set my Merc @ 100/1 and pay $8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markus View Post
    Like Seahorse, you work at a BRP dealer, right?
    Nope, but I do visit there on a regular basis! (Sometimes I even swing wrenches if he is behind! :eek)

    I am a big fan of support the sport! Boats - dealer. Snowmobiles (newer ones) - dealer, old ones - good friend. RC Boats - me or the engine builder. Truck - dealer.
    When I need the dealer to be there for me, I want them to be there - not out of business because nobody supported them. Just wish I bought the Chevy instead of the Pontiac!

    Not sure why you wouldn't spend the few extra bucks on the good stuff, and support your dealer?

    pointer

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    The reason I don't buy it is because around here there is no demand for it so the dealers want $50.00 a gallon since they still have the cases they bought when it first came out. Aint worth that price to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggsuckindog View Post
    Markus not sure whats with you, BRP or any dealer is not getting rich selling oil
    That is completely untrue.

    BRP, Mercury and Yamaha all make lots of money selling oil. I cannot speak to dealer margins, but if you are paying $25/gallon for Premium Plus in bulk, someone is making a whole lot of money off you - the equivalent Pennzoil product costs about half that in gallon jugs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pointer View Post
    Not sure why you wouldn't spend the few extra bucks on the good stuff, and support your dealer?
    Because Mercury does not sell an oil as good as the Pennzoil 100% synthetic or Alisyn.
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    I wouldn't use Alisyn oil in my lawn mower. That stuff is awful, no comparison to XD100. I used Alisyn for awhile and when I took the engine apart it looked like I was using Bunker C.

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    Riverman Your 100% Right, My Lil 82 140 Xflow that was on my Checkmate had so much carbon soot in it when purchased, after a Decarb and XD100 used the compression came way up, You could see the rings, that stuff works, Heck my 2liter V6 Merc even likes it....XD100 is worth thr price

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    That's strange - Helmut ran the heck out of his motor on Alisyn and we thought it was the best oil we ever used. I guess different situations give different results. Myself, I would only use Alisyn, but I'm not going to start an oil debate.


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