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    I believe ground is to the case. and positive goes thru two different wires to the hot sides. There are two hot wires i think so the motor can turn in two different directions. One on the up side comes off the cylinoid and the down is a direct shot from your down switch. Look for the positive wire leaving the cylinoid (sp?) and try jumping it directy from there and the case.

    Try jumping it and tapping on the motor with a mallet. I bet its just bad burshes. I got some insert brushes at my local starter repair shop a few years ago and had mine fixed in an hour. I think there are two long bolts thru the motor that need to be unscrewed and then the motor comes up and off.

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    Ok sounds simple enough. This afternoon, I intend to look into it a little further. But I figure that even if the brushes where bad it would try to do something. Maybe? Or rather like a starter a hot spot would atleast click, while brushes would do anything do to no contact? Thanks again for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milkdud View Post
    Does it click when you push your buttons? IF so you probably have a bad cylinoid. Conrad
    New to outboard repair here... is a cylinoid some kind of combination solenoid and hydraulic cylinder? Or is that Merc thing? Most of my work has been on OMC's.

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    Pic the pump, for what its worth..( and do like Conrad said, pull the motor and look it over)


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    Isolate the motor by disconnecting it fro the solenoids, put the ground from the motor directly on the battery neg an one of the other wires touch to the positive, if it works, try the other wire, if it still works, the motor is good if it works one way or doesn't work either way, it's a bad motor
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcrussell50 View Post
    New to outboard repair here... is a cylinoid some kind of combination solenoid and hydraulic cylinder? Or is that Merc thing? Most of my work has been on OMC's.

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    Love how mispelling cause confusion.........
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    Trim pump appears to be in bad shape. Missing brush on one side and old dry grease throughout. :-/ New/reman pump or try for a electric motor rebuild? Thinkin a rebuild would be reasonably priced?! Dropped interior at shop today and preping to do some poly resin work this week. Would like to thank everyone for their help and opinions.

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    leaving the cylinoid (sp?) and try jumping
    my own quote above.

    NOTE: some had two solenoid's/cylinoids and some only had ONE solenoid.

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    Thinkin a rebuild would be reasonably priced?!
    Just rebuild it yourself. 10 min job. THey make replacement brushes that just push in and require no soldering. But you will have to have your starter repair shop size it up for you.

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    Milkdud: is it really that easy? For you serial gurus. Here it is (2412619). Let me know what this pig really is.

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    serial # is for a 1250 68-69 ,post pictures of intake port covers to confirm.

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    Wow that's old. I will attempt to do so but not certain I know how. Won't know till I try.

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    HANDY TIPS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatist View Post

    HANDY TIPS!
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    Your more than welcome, paybacks are simple too..."SHIP ME ONE THOSE SWEET RESTORED BIKES YA HIDING THE DOWN UNDER!"..

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