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    I have plans from Ron Jones to build this hydro.
    But I haven't decided yet what I'm building next after the Scotti. But I will be using the cnc from now on. Coping ribs and building from that point takes to long. AutoCad drawings and using the cnc makes a much easier build.
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    You're going to need a couple stackers and ear plugs. Cnc makes sense, any clue where the original is?

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    I have Molly Ballou's mids, lower units, 1250 BPs and stacks to build the Molly Bee. Don't know if the hydros are still around. Lots of people have been looking.
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    Pulled these off another thread , The Flying HillBilly Jerry Guinn . His son is on S&F . Looks like maybe 72 Havasu .Good looking boat, BAJA.
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    Built two engines for Chrysler engineering department. They were basic 140 blocks I got with no ports in them. Took two 3 cylinder front halves to make one 4 carb set up for the 4 cylinder blocks, broke multiple lower units before sending them to Chrysler.

    I know toward the end Jack was running Algon fuel injection. Dad and Jack were friends I will ask if he has any photos.

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    I had a chat with Randy Pierson a couple months back , he also did the same . They worked a lot of R&D ,four carbs , powerflow l/u with thru hubs . Then had a talk with a Team Force guy who mentioned a few good things as well but that was in the late 80's and 90 's . The four carb Force used pumpers and ran strong , so strong that the Merc deal to take over was getting sour because of the Force showing at the races that year, so I was told. They had help from some experienced Chrysler R&D , got the race blocks from old Chrysler warranty returns in TX, never anything really wrong with the Chrysler returns and they never blew one up but did lots of R&D with them in the basement at the WI factory. Called it the skunkworks. This is a Team Force 4 carb and Bonn mid , pumpers short tuner .
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    Quote Originally Posted by racer View Post
    Built two engines for Chrysler engineering department. They were basic 140 blocks I got with no ports in them. Took two 3 cylinder front halves to make one 4 carb set up for the 4 cylinder blocks, broke multiple lower units before sending them to Chrysler.

    I know toward the end Jack was running Algon fuel injection. Dad and Jack were friends I will ask if he has any photos.
    Bad ass Al!
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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    Quote Originally Posted by racer View Post
    Built two engines for Chrysler engineering department. They were basic 140 blocks I got with no ports in them. Took two 3 cylinder front halves to make one 4 carb set up for the 4 cylinder blocks, broke multiple lower units before sending them to Chrysler.

    I know toward the end Jack was running Algon fuel injection. Dad and Jack were friends I will ask if he has any photos.
    Do tell more about how you ported them, so the 77 and on 476 block with long stroke and 4 carbs and what lowers were you breaking? Algon pics ?

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    FMP yes on the blocks they were ported more like an omc with 3 exhaust ports, I dont remember what port timing I used. They were the production units of that time. I meet the guys from Texas one year at the nationals, they told me what they were running and it sounded like one of the blocks I had done or at least ported the same.

    Dad is checking if he has any pictures of the Algon set up.

    Thanks Gary I was lucky to get to do projects like this and some of them for OMC it was what kept things interesting for the 40 plus years I worked on them.

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    Removed one of the bridges in and out , square the transfers as well ? A man in Lake Charles just bought 4 Chrylsers from the same seller, one 115 and three 140s all solid motors , powerflow l/u . I'm waiting to hear back what the project is .These were stock motors from what I was told.
    Tim Wellborn MuscleCar Museum , if you look at the left side of the pic you will notice a 71 Conqueror Shallow Vee with a 120 on it. You can't see the 120 but you can see a couple more Chrysler right behind the cowl of the 120. This boat is an original , run 4 times and stored inside since new. Not bad .
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMP View Post
    Might be early Molinari or one of home made, put some pics up of your 4 carb.
    Here is the 4 carb motor....early 3-5/16" bore block, two 3-holer fronts welded together.

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    Any life left in it, have you run it ? They work well if you set them up right . I'd love to spend a couple hours on a fresh one tuning , jetting , timing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FMP View Post
    Any life left in it, have you run it ? They work well if you set them up right . I'd love to spend a couple hours on a fresh one tuning , jetting , timing.
    Plenty of life left, fresh .030 over, new pistons, never ran it.
    I put it together and the flywheel dropped down to the upper bearing head.....this crank has a different taper.
    I am switching cranks now.

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    What crank is in it , 2.80 or 2.870 or later Force ? What flywheel did you try , old Chrysler or black ?

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    2.80 crank with old Chrysler flywheel

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