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    Starter Won't Engage

    I have an ongoing problem with the starter on my '82 200 Black Max. The starter gear bounces off the flywheel most of the time and doesn't engage. I have to twist the gear and engage it manually. The starter turns just fine. A friend told me to lube it with graphite. I couldn't get much in there because it's hard to get in from the top. It seemed to help a little, but the problem has gotten progressively worse. I can't detect any friction against the shaft when I twist it manually, but that doesn't mean it isn't there.

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    take it aprt and clean the brushes thats usally works they get like a powder in there

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    Change the clutch drive...
    Go boating,be happy!! And wear safety vest please!! And lesson good music...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c5oHITTI8c

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    Quote Originally Posted by afr View Post
    take it aprt and clean the brushes thats usally works they get like a powder in there
    The starter turns the engine over just fine. The only problem is the gear engaging. It doesn't seem like there's any problem with the motor. By the way I forgot to mention - the gear teeth all look fine and I don't see any problems with alignment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Love View Post
    Change the clutch drive...
    What the hail is that? I don't see any clutch on this thing. The starter gear moves up and down a helical gear on the shaft. It looks like there's the shaft, the gear and a spring to push the gear back down.

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    i go that one time from a weak battery to if its clean inside try a new bendix spring i think i comes with a new gear to but you wont need that

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    Quote Originally Posted by afr View Post
    i go that one time from a weak battery
    That's the most likely, along with the usual suspects. Clean all connections till shiney, inspect battery cables, load test battery. The starters in these engines need to fire hard to engage the starter drive. The starter can actually be in poor condition, but with enough juice, it'll still start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transomstand View Post
    That's the most likely, along with the usual suspects. Clean all connections till shiney, inspect battery cables, load test battery. The starters in these engines need to fire hard to engage the starter drive. The starter can actually be in poor condition, but with enough juice, it'll still start.
    I have dual batteries and I've had the problem even when they are fully charged. I'll check the external connections. I don't know how to get at the brushes. Is there a better lube than graphite?

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    I just use 2-4-C, or 3 in one oil on the drive. Remove the starter, pull out the 2 long bolts in the end frame, and the brushes will be right there at the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by larsonblue View Post
    What the hail is that? I don't see any clutch on this thing. The starter gear moves up and down a helical gear on the shaft. It looks like there's the shaft, the gear and a spring to push the gear back down.
    Starter drive clutch........ You see nothing.. Go see Google a bit ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Love View Post
    Starter drive clutch........ You see nothing.. Go see Google a bit ..
    I just checked the manual. It just shows pinion gear and spring. If I unload the spring, the pinion gear moves freely. Looks like I need to pull the whole thing out and clean the brushes.

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    Sounds like WEAK VOLTAGE SUPPLY to the starter ... No matter if you've got ten batteries and you have a good solid 12 volts at them if the voltage is not getting to the starter with a good path ( bad or broke down battery wiring ) it is gonna do the same thing you described...

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    clutch drive or

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP Love View Post
    Change the clutch drive...
    Bingo. If the connections are good and the Batteries are hot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HStream1 View Post
    Bingo. If the connections are good and the Batteries are hot.
    The manual only shows a free-floating pinion gear and a spring and retaining nut.

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