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    Paint/Body Guys....

    whats the secret to keeping from gumming up D.A. paper on your first pass over freshly cured mud???
    Paying almost a buck a pc for 40 grit 3M and hate round canning it after 30 seconds use.
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    let it cure longer, also, a heat lamp helps.
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    Mud

    I feel your pain I walk around the shop all day a look at paper laying on the floor. Your mud is really not dry or not enough hardner. I realize its easier to knock down at that point so I take my air line and try to blow the mud away as I sand, it seems to help. I also have a wirebrush that attaches to my airline that cleans the mud out of the paper but you can use a regular wirebrush. You kinda just chalk it up to the cost of repair. That is what most people don't get when I write an estimate, the sand paper is .75-$1.25 a sheet,tach cloth $1.00, plastic I cover you car with $3.00... Its all small amounts but adds up by the end of the job and makes it tough to work for anyone other than the insurance companies. I don't know if that answers or helps but that my .02.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flabum1017 View Post
    let it cure longer, also, a heat lamp helps.


    or kick it off hotter. the catalyst might also be going bad, especially if it was sitting on a shelf that seen sunlight for any length of time. a SS hand brush will take the caked up **** out of the pad for the time being.
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    Been years since I used one but perhaps if you start with a cheese grater style body file and knock the top off it won't gum as much. It seems like that top layer is the worst. I remember buying one many years ago for under 20 bucks.

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    Take a paint stick, and smack the paper on the bottom of the DA sander a few times...it will usually knock most of the gummed up stuff off of the paper so you can keep using it
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    cake

    and also a good quality sand paper.... i like the sunmight,or the 3m....

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    Get some of the ultra lite filler. It sets up quick, sands easy and dosen't clog the paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BadAction View Post


    or kick it off hotter. the catalyst might also be going bad, especially if it was sitting on a shelf that seen sunlight for any length of time. a SS hand brush will take the caked up **** out of the pad for the time being.
    I think he hit the nail on the head !!

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    Well............

    I mix it hot enough that it only lasts a couple of mins on the board but I can come out and sand it 2 days later and still plug up paper. Mud is only a couple mnths old and been in the garage entire time.
    I like the wire brush idea. Thaty sounds killer and will try it tomorrow.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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    The paper is not damp or holding any humidity is it ?

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    Dump that old crap and get some of the ultra lite filler. Night and day diff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    I mix it hot enough that it only lasts a couple of mins on the board but I can come out and sand it 2 days later and still plug up paper. Mud is only a couple mnths old and been in the garage entire time.
    I like the wire brush idea. Thaty sounds killer and will try it tomorrow.
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    Hope you are not using bondo on a boat......
    Fiberglass reinforced polyester/vynilester resin, gel coat, epoxy, or epoxy sealer. All of which are even more time consuming to tool down.
    That should stir things up_but my 2 clams......

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    Already using ....

    a good filler.
    And yes I'm using bondo on a boat Using it as a fairing material only and above water line. Will be covered by epoxy sealer before getting 2 part paint.
    Have done it this way for yrs and yrs with no issues at all.
    BTW, I'm also using "car" paint on my boat
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


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