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Thread: 22 Donzi/21 Cig/21 Shadow OB
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09-21-2009, 10:05 AM #16000 RPM
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22 Donzi/21 Cig/21 Shadow OB
Question,
The 22 Donzi's I see have the round keel. with a stock BB/Bravo they run 60plus . The few I have been in lay way up on the side when you turn em. Spooky. Some ads claim 75-80 mph with the factory Merc HP/BB/B1
The 21 Cigs if you find one have the true deep V Don't know the speeds. I would expect it would take a least 450-500HP to get one 75-80mph
The 21 Shadow we all know, with a Good 300hp OB should run 75-80 easy
Here is my question
I have yrs of experience in a 21 Shadow OB 2 300hp. I know what to expect on an average summer day with 2-3ft lake chop.
Will the rough water ride in a Donzi 22 or the 21 Cig be better or knock you fillings out? Will a 496/375MPI Bravo 1 with captains call really push either of these to 75-80mph?
Any input or reference to find out would be appreciated. Shoot me an email or give me a call.
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09-21-2009, 11:12 AM #2
Your question begs another.....Why do you ask?
The Shadow was designed after the other two as a more modern, better performing alternative. The target market for all 3 was the same and the Shadow is , all in all, the best performer, and best handling of the 3 (not knocking the others in any way). So if you are looking to go for a stern drive...none of them is well balanced with a big block and all will need bow weight.... The Donzi will chine walk with power (correctable somewhat with either tabs, a Bravo 3 , or both. The Cigarette will CW to a lesser degree, and the Shadow can get up on the pad and fly straight, if you know what you're doing.
Bottom line...if you already have a Shadow, you will not be taking a step forward with either of the other two. On the other hand only you can decide if there is some added value in the "panache" of the other two legendary marques.
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09-21-2009, 11:22 AM #3Screaming And Flying!
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I am not sure if you are looking to make an I/O purchase, you should also at the Howard 23 Offshore as a very good option.
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09-21-2009, 04:28 PM #4
You wont like the Donzi..in any water compared to your boat. Never run the Cig
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09-21-2009, 05:01 PM #5
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09-21-2009, 09:06 PM #75000 RPM
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I have 2 suggestions and they are both named Sutphen.....
The Blue boat will do 83 on GPS....
The O/B is low -mid 70's with a 225.......
Let me know if you need further info......
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09-21-2009, 09:09 PM #85000 RPM
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You can get more info here
The blue boat is available and there is also a LS model with 350 Mag
http://sutphenboats.com/Last edited by CMC; 09-21-2009 at 09:12 PM.
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11-21-2009, 11:33 PM #9
Those new sutphens really do put the screws to the competition. litterally
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11-22-2009, 12:11 AM #10Member
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damn nice boats i will take one of each for the love of pete how much $$$$$$$$$$$$ would you need for a new one just asken thanks for the questions too its all good info
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11-22-2009, 11:55 AM #11
I have to say that sutphen looked good at the conn river run
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11-23-2009, 01:20 AM #12