Checkmates, are they heavy???

[bworner]

Dude that is a Bad Ass Checkmate......How does it run with the 300X? It has to be killer out of the hole yet pull you back in the mids......Does she top out around the magic # or close? Its funny how from about my Checkmates Era to now they still look familiar...At the Milwaukee Boat SHow 2 weeks ago I was checking over the 2009 Version of my boat, the Pulsarre 1600, the screws,cup holders,seats,bow area were 100% the Exact same,...top cap has a couple trim differences, but the hull has not changed at all, and mine is a 1982! I cant wait to get my X Flow 140 "original" out in some clean water, jack it to the moon and watch my Raker prop take me into that magical area of V4 music.....any more pics of your animal there?

[Viper GTs]

Yea there heavy...Better looking than any Hydrostream...Faster not...but they cant play where I play....My 02...Al <a href="http://s31.photobucket.com/albums/c363/8711260/?action=view&current=boat07.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c363/8711260/boat07.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[BUSHWACKER]

Beautiful looking boat how fast is it?

[Viper GTs]

Beautiful looking boat how fast is it?

Thanks Bushwacker...77 GPS with my new labbed Trophy Plus..Its not Hydrostream fast, but it has a full cabin for 2, toilet, built in coolers, and is 23 feet long...That 300X works hard to push my heavy load...Al

[150aintenuff]

150, how the hell would I take my 140 Crank rated motor, to 200 HP? Remember mine is a X FLow, not a looper......A # of guys told me that with the right work the XFlows can really put down the power and be dead nutts reliable...Id love to make it simply run more efficiently thru Carb,Heads,and air box and exhaust mods to make some more power, everyone tells me that the 140 X Flow has the good heads,carbs and the bubble back exhaust......So how do I build it up??

send it to Al Stoker... and be willing to wait for the magic to happen.... a 140 looper would be easier to build up but even the Xflows ran nice built up.. a 140 cross flow wont approach the 200# a looper will.. but there are gains to be had for sure

[150aintenuff]

viper... that boat is beautiful....

[Viper GTs]

viper... that boat is beautiful....

Thanks 150.. and heavy!!!! Al

[dblasta]

Hey Guys,some of you have seen some of the 'tarded posts and questions that Ive posted, Sorry Im a newbie......I sell boats for a living and have for years, All the guys I chat with here run Hydrostreams, and they all say that my Little 16 1/2 ft Checkmate Enticer is way too heavy to go fast, well today at the local Boat Show they had a 09 Checkmate 1600 Pulsare,exact same boat as mine,just 25 yrs newer,and I mean the same!!! Also a guy was talking about Minx Power boats, a guy out of Fla that has a Original V King mold is making a old Stream made modern,no wood core all Nida board or Omni Board some crap, but it weighed 50lbs more than mine,granted its 15inches longer, but why is my Checkmate too heavy to go fast,I figured speed had to do with the narrow pad and hull design,it kicks ass in rough water,but is not fast......sorry for the elaborate post but I wanted to be clear....

Reading all these old post on Checkmate.. the answer depends on where you bought the boat. On Long Island New York, O'Neills boat yard had them laid up heavier to last longer in the ocean and rough chop of the bay.. it also depends on the model.. enchanters had the best hull for speed with it's mod v. Starflights and newer models tended to have a deeper v with a step however had hooks in the rear of the hull to enable better planning.. The starflight and convincer models were solid in chop and ocean.. if you're looking for Cadillac cruising over 70mph Checkmate is it. If you want higher top speeds and a wild ride then Hydrostream is your game. They are much lighter with a mod v and tunnel on the flat portion going to the stern think of riding on a water ski bottom.. in terms of hull longevity you will have to invest in extra glass for repairs with Hydrostream..

[Ron.64]

Are the newer Checkmates using wood for stringers and transom or have moved to composite?

[Pulse186]

From what I hear they now use composites and be prepared for sticker shock. While I like checkmates I think there are better boats out there for the prices they are asking.

[Ron.64]

I just got out of a Charger DL. I like the Checkmate because of the decent performance with a bowrider option. I need a boat with more capacity but, I still want some speed. My lake that I’m on kicks up pretty good. The Charger hull starts really shallow so, lots of pounding. Do you by chance know what year Checkmate switched to composite?

[Pulse186]

Last year when Caldwell Marine bought Checkmate so all new ones will be composite. If the boat was cared for there is little worry about the older ones. My Pulse186 is a 92 and is rock solid, but I'm only the 4th owner and the boat spent its life inside.

Still can't go wrong with Checkmate, the prices I saw were dealer list prices so probably not as expensive depending on options and power. I think Randy Corson is still a checkmate dealer, might want to give him a call.

[Ron.64]

Thanks, much appreciated.

Last year when Caldwell Marine bought Checkmate so all new ones will be composite. If the boat was cared for there is little worry about the older ones. My Pulse186 is a 92 and is rock solid, but I'm only the 4th owner and the boat spent its life inside.

Still can't go wrong with Checkmate, the prices I saw were dealer list prices so probably not as expensive depending on options and power. I think Randy Corson is still a checkmate dealer, might want to give him a call.