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    Looks like winter talk starts early this year. I guess I will have to make a trip east next year and spank you all

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    This thread has reached 100 pages of great Challanger info, photos and some ball busting too!!!

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    Winter talk started for me three weeks ago when my motor popped lol gonna be a long winter. On yhe brightside though ill hve the new motot together and can start boating early. Last season i wasnt in until july being as i was still finishing the boat up

    21' Shadow--250 3.0l

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    I just hope I'll take mine atleast ones when the damm powerhead separates, before lakes freeze

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87starflite View Post
    Its only a sb, maybe his transom will fall off hehehehe
    Well when the jack plate goes on you can rest assured we are fabbing up a set of killer tie bars cause I just dont like the thought of the motor that far back without them.

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    I wish i had pics of the way the tie bars were done in my old shadow truely a work of art.
    They were aluminum blocks machined to accept the stainless turn buckles anidized blue and through bolted from the top side of the well to the bottom (one block on top and one beaneath) so there were no oversized holes or cheesey steering cable boots like on my challenger
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    Mine will be invisible under the raised well. I know Joey Impressia use to install them in 21 superboats. If I cant find a set of them than its up to Mercace to fab me up a set. 47 out

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    I hear ya Mike. This winter im fabing some aluminium plates to go from the piece of angle on my transom to the splashwell. That and the big azz knees I got I should be ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnemous View Post
    Well when the jack plate goes on you can rest assured we are fabbing up a set of killer tie bars cause I just dont like the thought of the motor that far back without them.
    I was just busting your chops. U have no splashwell or lip now u really dont need tie bars. I guess it wouldnt hurt but the knees in your boat are rather large and should be more than sufficient... Better yet put about 200 lbs worth of tie bars in your boat, slow her right down

    21' Shadow--250 3.0l

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87starflite View Post
    I was just busting your chops. U have no splashwell or lip now u really dont need tie bars. I guess it wouldnt hurt but the knees in your boat are rather large and should be more than sufficient... Better yet put about 200 lbs worth of tie bars in your boat, slow her right down
    It will need tie bars. I can see the transom flexing when i jump up and down on the motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnemous View Post
    It will need tie bars. I can see the transom flexing when i jump up and down on the motor.
    You guys should all trade up and buy progressions..... Or a shadow with a full transom like eric has! Full transom is strong as hell!

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    they all flex a bit, usually covered with molding.

    I actually have a whole new outlook on the subject that we discussed, I think the balsa cored transoms of the progressions and the challengers allowed a small amount of flex in the transom itself, almost acting as a shock absorber where as the SB transoms are more stiff. The more you integrate the deck and modified splashwell to that transom the more of a chance of having a seam show up later on

    hang 600lbs of motor, steering, and brackets 14-16" and it aggravates things also

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    I agree with rob. The stiffer that transom gets the more force you are exerting on the seam where the well was modified. The constant loading and unloading of the forces on the transom are somewhat dimished from a little flexing. Think of it as a shock absorber.

    21' Shadow--250 3.0l

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    So Tie bars cant hurt.

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    Rob this is a piece of vinyl corner molding available at Lowes. Does a great job. Only fastened from the transom and some boat life so it can flex. So far no problem.


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