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    Tough to push aluminum through a mig torch, spool gun or tig is the way to go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hottrucks View Post

    I think you are doing the right thing bring it and have it tig welded it's a much stronger cleaner weld
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    its doable...

    argon gas

    turn wire feed speed to 100%
    loosten the drive rolls as loos as possible but still able to feed wire
    teflon gun liner
    mig gun lead needs to be PERFECTALLY straight
    set voltage or tap setting on high
    4043 wire is your all purpose wire in .035
    5356 is your marine grade wire for 5X and 6X alloys and is stiffer and stronger than 4043


    argon at set to 30 works good for most general repairs.

    i have a millermatic 140 and it works for small porjects and welds like a champ

    i also have a thermal dynamics 225 with a spool gun but its got a lot shorter power cord and is used for bigger bench projects,

    Ive repaired broken drives with my 140 and 5356.030 wire without a spool gun, but i will say if you hit a spot where it doesnt arc and stops the feed your diggin a rats nest out of the drive rolls..


    id only recommend it if you were out of options and had no other choices, ive done so and it worked for me, but its far from Ideal... TIG is the ideal..

    they also make a DC stick rod for aluminum and its even worse IMO than forcing a mig gun to feed aluminum

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    Tig is the deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigweld View Post
    Tig is the deal
    agreed

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    You can do it, bu it is worth it for you to purchase a spool gun. These are very easy to weld with.

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    Be careful, if it is a high stress application and you upset the heat treatment in the Aluminum alloy were you are welding you can change its properties. Aluminum alloys are given their strength through precipitation hardening and when you re-heat a treated Al-alloy you run the risk of recrystallizing it an thus undoing a specific heat treatment. Ask yourself if the braces are worth the possibility of making another part weaker, my .02 from a materials stand point.

    Quote Originally Posted by illMATTic View Post
    well we have this older miller matic? at work. i wanted to add some braces to this setback bracket i picked up. i'll most likely just have somebody weld it for me. i cant see retro fitting the one at work for one or two uses.

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    I was gonna chime in here but 150aint beat me to it. I have a Lincoln Sp130, for aluminum, I had to use some 50 series .035 wire with the steel liner and it did fine. Roller tension was critical. Did alot of work that way, until I made enough to get the TIG. I agree, I'd do again in a pinch, but don't recommend it. REW

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    Quote Originally Posted by gw1250 View Post
    Be careful, if it is a high stress application and you upset the heat treatment in the Aluminum alloy were you are welding you can change its properties. Aluminum alloys are given their strength through precipitation hardening and when you re-heat a treated Al-alloy you run the risk of recrystallizing it an thus undoing a specific heat treatment. Ask yourself if the braces are worth the possibility of making another part weaker, my .02 from a materials stand point.
    if you get the entire piece that hot your not welding.. your melting... a proper weld process SHOULDN'T effect the base metal enough to greatly reduce its strength enough to be of any concern, and truth be told a PROPER weld is stronger than the metal surrounding it...

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    a regular mig wire feed will do aluminium....a teflon liner with a short gun is recomended if you dont have drive rollers in the gun handle itself the longer the wire is after the rollers the more chance it has to get balled up in the gun itself you can buy little pads like scotchbrites with a clip to install between the spool of wire and the drive roll assembly...aluminium is dirty chit one of the things that kill liners when welding aluminium one of the biggest problems isnt the fact that it wont be welded but rather the gun liner itself gets gummed up with the oxidation common of aluminium
    welding machine with a spool gun is really the way to go

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    I have a lincon 180 HD. Lincoln spool gun ( paid $195) and argon 75%-25% mix. Welds like a dream . Heat stays pretty centralized close to the weld when welding. I would recommend getting a spool gun or like suggested above, get it done with a tig.
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