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01-19-2008, 12:51 PM #315000 RPM
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This is based on "average" usage. No one here is "average".
According to the International Council of Marine Industry Associations (ICOMIA) an average recreational boater only use their boat 50 hours per year. 150 hours on an impeller or a fuel filter or between oil change on the gear case doesn't seem that extraordinary.
The 2 and 3 cylinder E-TEC have their oil tank under the cowl and can go 1 year (50 hours) without refilling them (when using XD100 synthetic oil).
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01-19-2008, 01:03 PM #32
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01-19-2008, 01:28 PM #33
then there's the question about their non-performance gearcase!
why ask me ?
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01-19-2008, 02:18 PM #34
Mercury Wins
Mercury wins across the board....cost, power, efficiency hands down every time. Yamaha and BRP is like the D student arguing with the F student as to who is smarter. As for SOB tests, ask Herb how many minutes the Yamaha 300 lasted on his boat. I think he was getting better numbers with an older Mercury 250 EFI saltwater series than he was with the Yamaha 300.
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01-19-2008, 03:40 PM #35
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01-19-2008, 04:50 PM #36
thats to funny , remmeber why omc went belly up ? look at the problems people keep having out of the optimax , i9 have a freind that has a 250 xs , he has blowm two power heads , lost two lower units , trim gone out , ect , so they all have there problems . i bet i can find you a hammer that can out run that old white motor of yours. As far as non performing lower unit , i can run it 1 inch above the pad , omc if you do that you spin the inside out of them . this is to funny.
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01-19-2008, 06:28 PM #37
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01-19-2008, 06:29 PM #387000 RPM
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ok...........................
why did omc go belly up??????
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01-19-2008, 07:03 PM #39
when they 1st came out with the fict they werent very good , lost lots of $$$ and spent lotson that . that sunk them .
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01-19-2008, 08:12 PM #406000 RPM
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That is what everyone thinks but they were derailed on purpose by the sucker that owns Progressive ins. and gives huge $$$ to the democrats. At least at the very end he was responsible.
But,
They bought a bunch of boat companies and couldn't turn a profit on them. Took to long to unload the boat companies and the ficht fiasco didn't help any. Lots of little things added up to one big mess.
I could go on and on but who really cares, BRP is making greay strides with a great product. I just wish they had a Johnson line to go with Evinrude. A charcoal motor would be cool and I always liked the Johnson name better for some reason.
I beleive Sea-way has the rights to use the Johnson name on their race motors, at least that's what I heard.
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01-19-2008, 08:51 PM #417000 RPM
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ok heres my reason why...........
the guys runnin omc were engine guys, they found out there was more money in robbing a corporation blind, the engine guys became money guys, theres a ceo still gettin a whole lot more a yaer in retirement than we can count, good engineers becaome more interested in getting promotions than doing theire jobs, the quality of product definatly declined, why was ficht aproblem, cuz it wasnt dont when it hit the market, needed to sell them to pay the bills, at least they now admit to all their problems, which another company dont, they want good stuff out there, do much better testing and developemnet, its showing in the product, so they went down, now theyre comin back up, it will be interesting
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01-19-2008, 11:22 PM #42
The gear oil used in the Etecs is designed to protect the gears and suspend any water in the oil, and be able to protect the gears with up to 50% water saturation.
The filters are basically oversized for their application, and are what allow the long replacement intervals. Also remember that is for "Scheduled Dealer Service". You still, as an owner, need to hit the grease fittings, inspect the propshaft for fishing line, etc, just like any other motor. At the 300hr service, the dealer changes the water pump, filters, spark plugs, gear lube, checks sync-n-link, hits all grease fittings, scans EMM for faults, and ships it back out.
I have my filters changed once per year regardless, especially since I have fueled up at some shady places when fishing tournaments out of town.
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01-20-2008, 01:07 AM #43
prob a dumb ? but you mean you can have 50 percent water in your lower unit and it not let loose ?
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01-20-2008, 02:34 AM #44
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01-20-2008, 11:05 AM #458000 RPM
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Hey Brett you are right you took first place this year that great but we didn't get to tech you motor like they did to bob albee when he was winning the guy's ripped his motor all apart and found it to be stock thats what you get when your top dog.