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01-05-2008, 08:22 PM #76
Still got this one too...
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01-05-2008, 08:23 PM #77
...But it looks like this...
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01-05-2008, 08:25 PM #78
awwww thats a shame
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01-05-2008, 08:37 PM #79
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01-05-2008, 08:42 PM #80
I still have the time sheet and it was in Hot Boat mag.
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01-05-2008, 08:47 PM #81
i could fix er back up if the framing aint gone
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01-05-2008, 09:01 PM #82
Here's a long standing record:
1991, Tom Kunzeman, Sun Valley Hydro, 2.4 Bridgeport with N2O, 7.47 @ 139.92 (Hot Boat Magazine May 1991)
Barron, you set the water on fire with a 2.4, so did Kunzeman, and Larry Boyd, and Don Russell, just to name a few from the early days, but with todays 2.5 drags, digital electronics, better delivery of N2O, and better pistons, why aren't there more hydros competing???
Jon Wright is the only PE/8 second boat I know of.
Ronnie
Kaase Outboard Hydro/Bottle Fed 300 Drag
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01-05-2008, 09:18 PM #83
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2C-xU8l92Y
this was one of my first test rides
and i finally got the picture of my last run loaded
whewLast edited by afr; 01-05-2008 at 09:23 PM.
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01-05-2008, 09:45 PM #84
Ronnie, one thing that I think contributed to the lack of true Unlimited Outboards, was the folding of the American Drag Boat Association. I think they eliminated the UO class years ago. Even when I was running, five boats would be a good showing. The crowds loved the class, and they usually ran us at the end of the program next to the Top Fuel Hydros. Hence, the top classes in inboard and in outboard. When they put us in an ET bracket with inboard hydros and jets, (by the way, it usually took a fuel or blown alcohol jet to beat us) it watered down the class and took away some of the mystique and prestige of the old Unlimited Outboards.
The Southern Drag Boat Association may still recognize UO. I really don't know. When I set the International Drag Boat Association in Pheonix, they didn't have a UO class before or after the record, but let me "set the record" anyway. I don't know what the situation was when Kunzeman set his IHBA records. Thanks for asking Ronnie.Last edited by warrior74z; 01-05-2008 at 09:49 PM.
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01-05-2008, 10:10 PM #85
Barron, I was told we can't even attempt the record in IHBA or SDBA due to the capsule issue. Anything quicker than 8.00 has to have a capsule. Larry Boyd started building a capsule hydro to compete in 7 second class but SDBA ruled "car motors only", no outboards or turbines. So it's collecting dust at his shop.
I wouldnt wanna add a capsule to my hydro mainly because I like the hole shot I get with the horsepower to weight ratio. 300 hp with a 200 shot of nitrous with a 14" diam wheel will rocket this baby for an impressive 660' ET. Talk about lifting the sponson from torque!!! I've had the sponson 3' off the water @ 85mph with a second stage of N2O.
What was your ET & speed at the 660' when you made the 8.06 pass?
Ronnie
Kaase Outboard Hydro/Bottle Fed 300 Drag
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01-06-2008, 04:16 AM #86
Barron and Ronnie......
Wow!! Way cool stuff guys.
Thanks a million for posting it.
I have a question for you guys and have wondered about the answer for years.
Why don't you guys fly the bow like us kneel down guys did???
In a perfect set up the bows up then the transom pop's and your on the wheel only.
I always figured that maybe power trim couldn't react fast enough like sliding our ass back and forth on a floor board to keep control ???
I know on an inboard the angle of the drive shaft and prop force the bow down and with no way to trim don't have a choice but never understood why on a drag O/B???
BTW, I went to the dargs in Dayton a couple times in the early-mid eighties hoping to see some of you guys run.
Was all car moter boats, everything broke, and was horrible shows. Spent all day waiting.
Last edited by Instigator; 01-06-2008 at 04:20 AM.
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01-06-2008, 06:27 AM #87
Instigator, I'm very impressed that you guys can get those things on the tail like you do, but I always thought that the risk of a blowover would be much higher with that setup. I liked the the three point stance in the name of safety. Isn't the idea of a "three point hydro" is that it rides on the two sponsons and the prop? I have also wondered through the years why you guys didn't set up to run the three point attitude. I realize your class of racing has many more competitors and many years of experimenting and assumed it was tried and didn't work as well. Also maybe not having the brute horsepower to drive the tail up is an issue. In some of the smaller APBA classes there just may not be enough speed, around 80-90 on drag hydros, to pop the tail. Being able to shift your weight around quickly is an advantage that a sit down hydro doesn't have, and I feel that the bigger and heavier rigs I ran would not respond to the weight shifts as well. Maybe some other APBA oldtimers will chime in here and offer their opinion. BTW, I never ran power trim on any of my drag hydros. Just felt it would get me in trouble one day. I did set the engine angle, depending on headwind, tailwind or calm conditions. Thanks for your input and interest.
Ronnie, sorry to hear about SDBA's ruling on the banning of outboards in the 7 second class. Sounds like the car motor guys were a little "skeered" of them bumblebees.
I ran against Larry Boyd in 1984, the same day I ran the 8.06. He is a class act and had a beautiful rig. A Jones hydro if I remember correctly.
Try to come to Augusta this year and we can chat.
Barron
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01-06-2008, 06:29 AM #88
Gary , More lifting area , heavier motor ,more power , safer ride for sure ...3 point hydro ! Warrior ,,awesome boat !
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01-06-2008, 07:31 AM #89
Apples to Oranges for sure.
Our theory is that dragging the sponsons equals drag/speed so our ultimate goal was always to have no boat in the water such as the one in the picture I posted.
The design in the photo is a very forgiving boat to run and "almsot" blow over proof.
The fastst of those classes has Kilo records in the mid 120's and do it with the bow in the air.
The newer boats though do have capsules with strapped in drivers (no trim) and run with the sponsons in the water but mainly due to the center of gravity being moved forward due to the capsule.
In the drag scenario with that much power and accelerating that hard I don't know if it would even work but always wondered??
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01-06-2008, 08:11 AM #90
well if i may
to state my personal experience with the subject of tail dragging as apposed to a popped tail with a clamp on on it
it is all in the design of the center section and the sponsons foot print
you can set up for either way
but in the real world conditions --- not being on a race corse
it is far more safer to tail drag
i learned that the hard way
but i did find by trial and error you can get the tail up at far less speeds
if it is of a flat design but the sponsons have to be set at a given hight to control the boat
in other words i was way off but it worked
threw the school of hard knocks it rides best for me on the tail
now i have only had this boat in the water like 18 20 months
i am still figuring out what the boat likes
i could write a book about what has gone on threw out the development of my hull design
wow
hydros have a huge learning curve as a posed to a tunnel or v bottom not that they are easy
forsure not the average boat for the public marketLast edited by afr; 01-06-2008 at 08:30 AM.
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