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    Burgess F3

    I have a Burgess F3 circuit catamaran, cannot seem to find much info on them,i believe they use a 850cc Short Shaft Yam or Evinrude, does any if know if any other engines have been used successfully as they are like hens teeth, i think having a 90 yam and lifting it 5 inches would affect the balance and Handling not sure.
    This is to be my winter project this year so trying to get all the info together about these.

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    Hi Gazza do you know who used to drive it.

    Rob

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    Get them picies posted see what i can recall or find. da fin archives are not too bad.

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    The boat was No 11 from Norway, Not sure if this is the drivers name
    Tor Egil Hylland
    Sponsors- Drageset Spar
    Motor-Drange
    The Hull number of its year is 0019 but cannot find the year?
    It says year of manufacture then its blank!!
    I'll post more photo's tomorrow.
    Last edited by gazza; 08-21-2007 at 12:18 PM.

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    Hi Gazza,

    your info is right. Tor was racing F3 back in the 80s.
    There was only Johnson or Evinrude used for F3. Cees Van der Velden was the guy supporting the series with parts and engines. Both models have been similar 850ccm blocks ca. 100-110 HP. The category died some few years ago.
    Best Regards from Europe

    Roman
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    Roman

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    You Guys are brilliant,
    The hull is in surprising good condition for that age ( seems the same age as my old Campbell / Gordon Wright cat), all wood seems to be ok where i'm getting access, had the endoscope from work to check the areas i could not see at first everything looks fine,
    There is just an area from getting in and out on the left hand side which needs a repair on the outside skin.
    So what speed did these do in race trim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stingray240cs View Post
    Hi Gazza,

    your info is right. Tor was racing F3 back in the 80s.
    There was only Johnson or Evinrude used for F3. Cees Van der Velden was the guy supporting the series with parts and engines. Both models have been similar 850ccm blocks ca. 100-110 HP. The category died some few years ago.
    Best Regards from Europe

    Roman
    I see in your profile, you work for BP (oil Industry), I work for FMC Corporation, we are working on your Subsea Block 18 project at the moment for South Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza View Post
    I see in your profile, you work for BP (oil Industry), I work for FMC Corporation, we are working on your Subsea Block 18 project at the moment for South Africa.
    The world is so small...

    The speed was around 100mph
    Best Regards

    Roman

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    All the info is right. You lucky bugger. Now all we need to get you is a motor.Mercs did have a 65 GT type motor with V'ed reads behind the carbs but the motors were all from Cees.However, if you get an 86 or later 70 OMC they were bigger and prop rated. Loads of torque & would rev. The exhaust however come out the opposite side of the block but cast an adapter plate, cut 5" off a later 50 hp if you cant find a genuine.. "stinger". Make up you're own nose cone and low water pick up,A 3 or 4 blade cleaver over the hub exhaust and or releaf the exhaust above the "cav" plate. Ritchen the carbs high speed jets. If you can find someone with a peak voltage metre you can tune the motor using that, but you'll need someone with big balls to hang on and read it!. The last time I did that was on a guys boat on Lake Widermere with a Jonnie V8. Silly me!! Older and wiser now I hope. All the best and good luck. Phil

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    Actually having problems finding a suitable motor,
    Does anybody here have a s/s race motor at the right price,

    gaZ

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    You could check in the US for an sst 60 motor. We still race this class in the US. A site you may want to check out is APR Super league. This is the series that races the SST 60. In the states the motor is a an OMC 3cylinder with the smaller standard foot nose coned gearcase. The engine is 56 cubic inches or about 900 cc. The boats will run low to mid 80's miles per hour on a race course. There was a 3 cylinder Yamaha 70 that also worked well on these boats but were not used in the US.
    The 90 Yamaha with some port work on a short shaft midsection and smaller lower unit would be a fun ride. There were some outlaw classes that a few people ran the 90 yamaha on a short shaft mariner 60 mid section and lower unit with a nose cone.
    If you could find a good SST 60 motor that would be the easiest way to go.

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    Hey guys we still race these boats here in Australia, however our F3 class is now powered by a 1250cc motor

    check out this boat for more info http://www.bollinsracing.com.au/boats/
    also you can go to http://www.uhpbc.net/photo_gallery.htm to see some of the club boats in action
    Cheers
    Peter Zala

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    Greg Jacobsen at Sea Way Marine in Seattle, WA (USA) is an expert on F3 as well. He has much of the former OMC racing engine parts, etc. from 45SST to SST60. He raced F3 I believe as well at least one year. He is on here as SWMJake.
    Sam Baker
    On to the next project....

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    F3 power of that era

    made 110hp

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    Thanks for all the info you guys have, keep it coming,

    gaZ

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