question on lift kits and $$$

[ProComp]

Colin,

In the old days people used to use hockey pucks for body lifts. I'm sure you have a few of those around.....

LOL, yes they did, and use to stack more then one too. Thats almost as bad as using lift blocks on the front straight axle, yikes.

[Riverman]

....and gets U-Bolts made to fit....

I got some U-bolts made yesterday as I replaced all of them on my Viper trailer. Power Hammer Manufacturing, 86 DeBates St. in the Dugald industrial park. 1 day service too!

[K-Dawg]

Going to a 285/70 you should not have to worry about your gears. Your truck comes with 31's 265/75 on it. A 285 is only a 33. If you think a lift kit is expensive try about 1000.00 bucks to have front and rear installed. I know they make this thing for my truck were you can plug it in and it recalibrates the shift points you can recalibrate your speedometer. Do not crank up your torsion bars it will wear out your front end parts. Not to mention will ride like ****. If you do you will have to have the frontend realigned.

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="95%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Gear Ratio Guide for Larger Tires

When ever you change tire size from the original size to another there will be a direct effect on power and drivability. We have developed this chart to help you select the optimum gear ratio to put your performance back where you want it.
Using the chart below, first determine your original gear ratio and tire size and follow to the intersection that should be your approximate RPM at 65 MPH. Next find your new tire size and follow that across to the closest RPM to your original and that will be first choice.
If you are interested in a change that will give more power or better fuel mileage use the color coding as a guide.

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Highway Driving, Good Fuel Economy

</TD></TR><TR><TD width=88 bgColor=#00cc66 height=23> </TD><TD width=488 height=23>Daily Driver, Best Overall Performance</TD></TR><TR><TD width=88 bgColor=#ff6666 height=24> </TD><TD width=488 height=24>Most Power and Towing, Reduced Fuel Economy</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

This chart is based on 65 MPH and a gear ratio of 1:1, on a manual transmission in 4th gear. Please NOTE: If you have an automatic transmission your RPM will higher due to slippage in the transmission and the torque converter. With an overdrive transmission your RPM in overdrive will be 15% to 30% less than indicated.
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>Tire
Dia. </TD><TD><CENTER>Gear Ratio </CENTER><TABLE cellSpacing=1 width="100%" border=1><TBODY><TR><TD width="4%" height=12></TD><TD width="5%" height=12>2.35</TD><TD width="4%" height=12>2.73</TD><TD width="4%" height=12>2.94</TD><TD width="4%" height=12>3.07</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>3.21</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>3.31</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>3.42</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>3.55</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>3.73</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>3.91</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>4.11</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>4.27</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>4.56</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>4.88</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>5.13</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>5.29</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>5.38</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>5.71</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>6.17</TD><TD width="5%" height=12>7.17</TD></TR><TR><TD width="4%" height=12>22</TD><TD width="5%" bgColor=#6699ff height=12>2333</TD><TD width="4%" bgColor=#00cc66 height=12>2710</TD><TD width="4%" bgColor=#00cc66 height=12>2919</TD><TD 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[ProComp]

Good info K-Dog. I ran cranked up torsion bars and an add a leaf in my brand new 98 Chevy extended cab for 60,000 miles before selling it and the BF All Terrains were still in good shape and I never replaced anything in the front end. I also did the same on my 03 Dakota that are known to have weak front ends and it was fine too.

[Boz]

Jeff,

As a matter of fact, I have 14 of them in a bag on the back seat of my truck!
You never know when the call will come in for a game of outdoor shinny!!
Really though, was that done?? Makes sense....in a way.

ProComp; thanks for the info. Gee, maybe I'm better off just to leave it be? It looks fine now but another couple of inches with less wheel well would be really neat.

K-Dawg- that's some pretty cool info. You can tell you've been around the block with this stuff before. Appreciate your time.

Sandale was to call me back today but I guess they got busy. They did have really good prices on tires though. Better than a place I checked in Elie by almost $100 a tire!!! Gonna have to inform them of that.

So what's the verdict? 2" body lift? Guess it's all dependent on my personal preference and risks associated. Why can't things be easy??!!


Boz

[ProComp]

Cosco for BF All Terrains. 285/70/17. If they rub, crank the torsion bars until they clear and raise the back with an add a leaf or block.
Ask on your Ford website if 285s clear. They likely do with a slight rub on full turn.

[Boz]

OK; I'll hop on there and see. I'll let you know what they say.

Cosco, eh? Who'd have thunk? Not me. Wonder if Earls sells tires.....

[inspectorlance]

I would avoid the BFG At tires. They are allways out of ballance, and will shake your front end appart if you do high speed freeway driving. (80 mph)

Ya cant do blocks in the front of these trucks, ya need new springs. I have had my 2000 F350 deisel for five years. I had a leveling kit installed shortly after I got the truck . The ride is much rougher with the new springs installed. Most the time on the freeway I cant even set my coffee cup down due to the bad ride, and bad roads around here. The 35 BFG AT's will barley rub on the leaf springs with the stock 16" rims. The best upgrade for these trucks are air bags in the rear.
Here is what she looks like with the 35's and leveling kit.

Lance

[K-Dawg]

If it's a half ton it's probable got torsion bars not coil or leaf springs. Be careful when you turn up the torsion bars. The travel stops will be much closer to bottoming out when you turn them up. If ya don't do many dirt roads or ruff roads it's probably not a big deal. Here's a good web site with lots of lift kits, tires and rims. Lots of other cool gotta have redneck stuff.

www.4wheelparts.com

[kay75]

love that sight were just about to order a super chip exaust for our new 07 4x4 hemi

[Boz]

I actually put that site in my fav's about three days ago. I never would have thought that I, of all people, would be looking to lift my truck and throwing larger rubber on it. I'm a "keep it stock" kind of guy when it comes to vehicles....usually.

[Techno]

Boz if you haven't lifted it yet you might want to compare hieghts with getting into the truck. Mine is just at the level where I can slip my ass on the seat with little trouble. While at work one of the trucks is so high it needs a step. I would hate having to climb into my vehicle everytime I wanted to use it.
Not that everyone does but its something to consider.

[Boz]

Hey Techno,

It's actually high enough where my 6 yr. old niece needs help in and I need to grab the handle they have on the pillar to get in. I don't have nerf bars or running boards yet but I could probably use them even w/o a kit of any sort.


Another thought is my office parkade. I need to be able to park in there and the sign states 6'6". I'll have to take a look on Monday to see how I do for room.


I'll post a picture of it once I take one this weekend.

[LeeRiverVector]

hi boz .. put air ride in the wifes dakota 4x4 easest way and the cheapest as far as i know and the ride is nice..

[Boz]

KK,

How much and who does it? How much lift did you gain?