250 Challenge in B&WB mag

[JW]

VERY interesting article in this month's Bass and Walleye mag. 250 Opti vs 250 Verado vs 250 Yam 4-stroke versus 250 Suzuki 4-stroke.

Long live the direct injected 2-strokes! Opti Won every category except noise. Verado won the noise category, but got much lower gas mileage than the rest. Performance of the others weren't too far down from the Opti, the 4-strokes are getting close...............................

[msm]

That is a very interesting article. Also, the results were very similar to when B&WB compared the Yamaha 2-stroke HPDI to their 4-stroke a few years ago. Seems the smart thing to do is make a super quiet, super smooth DFI 2-stroke and quit fooling around with the 4-strokes. It appears the supercharging effort was for naught.

[Stinky]

Since there was one 250 missing from the test, I think the title of the article was right on.

SHOW UP OR SHUT UP.

[Markus]

It appears the supercharging effort was for naught.

The supercharging allowed the Verado to come second to the Opti in top speed and acceleration. It also made the Verado the thirstiest engine by far.

[dspencer]

The Yamaha was not rated best in mpg but in running at mid range and above it was.

[Massbasser]

I haven't seen the article yet. My mailman must be reading it first. I would be most interested at the full burn at cruise, not WOT. How did these motors compare at 4000 RPM? This is where I would assume to see the 4 Stroke shine. Also what kind of boat was this on?

[Stinky]

I haven't seen the article yet. My mailman must be reading it first. I would be most interested at the full burn at cruise, not WOT. How did these motors compare at 4000 RPM? This is where I would assume to see the 4 Stroke shine. Also what kind of boat was this on?

Ranger 620VS


Best Fuel Economy at cruise

XS 4.2 mpg @ 3000 rpm @ 24.99 mph

Suzuki 4.3 mpg @ 3000 rpm @ 24.7 mph

Yamaha 3.9 mpg @ 4000 rpm @ 33 mph

Verado 2.9 mpg @ 3000 rpm @ 19.7 mph


Average Fuel economy across the rpm range

XS 3.5 mpg

Suzuki 3.4 mpg

Yamaha 3.2 mpg

Verado 2.9 mpg

Why would you assume a 4 stroke would shine at cruise mpg????? You can't beat a stratified charge.

[jimmyb]

to further belabor the stratified charge benefits... look at fuel economy at idle (or 1000 rpm)

250XS=1000 rpm 5.9mph .8gph 7.4mpg
verado= 1000 rpm 5.5mph .9gph 6.1mpg
suzuki 250= 1000 rpm 5.3mph 1.7gph 3.1mpg
yamaha 250= 1000 rpm 4.7mph 1.5gph 3.1mpg

too bad those BRP boys didnt wanna show up and defend their info-mercial

[1BadAction]

Since there was one 250 missing from the test, I think the title of the article was right on.

SHOW UP OR SHUT UP.

too bad those BRP boys didnt wanna show up and defend their info-mercial

awesome. you 2 are my heroes.

[RBT]

long live the 2 stroke, I still stand by that the Verado is a PIG.
Though I have heard good things about the Suzuki and apparently this test makes it all true, pretty impressive motor.
Too bad BBD didn't show ( and I am not saying they would have won, as I know the guys that do the tests and they are totally inbiased, I just think it would have been interesting). Oh well.

RT

[JWTjr.]

Twible, is that like being inbred? I resemble that remark!

All kidding aside, that was a good test. It's too bad BRP didn't show. They told us they would right up until the last minute, too. Just ridiculous.

That said, I just tested a 115 E-Tec on another Ranger. It really is a good running and performing engine. I have a 93 crossflow 100 on my kids' Baja; I would love to do a back to back swap to see what the performance and fuel economy difference is.

More to come...stay tuned. Hoping to do some more shootout work (engines and props) yet this summer.

JT

[RBT]

JT.......check it out!
Your old parts look good!

RT

[Massbasser]

The 250XS is pretty impressive, but out of the 4 motors tried how many would still be running at 2500 Hours, at 5000 hours at 7500 hours? Do the 4 strokes out live the 2 strokes for the long haul? It seems to be the consensous with the offshore crowd. Performance wise the 2 stroke is better, but I don't think any of those 4 strokes will see much more than 60 or 70 MPH they seem to be more of a work horse than a race horse. There is a market for them. Those idle numbers are very impressive too. Wow.

[Markus]

Twible, is that like being inbred? I resemble that remark!

All kidding aside, that was a good test. It's too bad BRP didn't show. They told us they would right up until the last minute, too. Just ridiculous.

That said, I just tested a 115 E-Tec on another Ranger. It really is a good running and performing engine. I have a 93 crossflow 100 on my kids' Baja; I would love to do a back to back swap to see what the performance and fuel economy difference is.

More to come...stay tuned. Hoping to do some more shootout work (engines and props) yet this summer.

JT

Were the manufacturers allowed to choose any prop they wanted, just like in the usual B&WB tests these days, or did they have to use their own OEM propellers?

[jimmyb]

long live the 2 stroke, I still stand by that the Verado is a PIG.
Though I have heard good things about the Suzuki and apparently this test makes it all true, pretty impressive motor.


RT

verado is a pig? not really, it performed quite admirably, despite being the heaviest. It was only 1.5mph behind the 250XS in top speed and 3 mph faster than the nearest other 4-stroke competitor! 3 MPH on a 60 mph boat is HUGE. Acceleration was 2nd place to the 250XS as well...

as for the suzuki being an impressive motor, it was LAST in mid range accel (3.3 sec behind the 250xs in 30-50mph) and LAST in top speed... almost 6 mph behind the 250XS and almost 5 mph behind the verado... what's impressive about that?????

as for long term durablity... the 250XS has some pretty impressive hours racked up by the SKA tournament guys...