Collectable vintage race engines....

**brichter** · 04-21-2006, 10:49 AM

I would like to hear what other collectors consider to be the most sought-after rare vintage race engine. Is it a T2X? Super Strangler? Chrysler Stacker? I gave up looking for a Mac 590 or 630 after many years. What is the ultimate motor of this category? Someone told me that a 1350 BP is worth two Chrysler stackers. I'd also like to see pictures of some prized motors if you have one.

**SCT** · 04-21-2006, 12:07 PM

An OMC Rotary engine would be a real prize! But I'm sure none were ever out of sight of OMC engineers and OMC factory drivers. But you never know......

**crazy horse** · 04-21-2006, 03:32 PM

A real 75H would cost you a big box of cash, If you found one. A Merc stacker should be worth some good money. Almost any of the old H motors are bringing good money on Ebay.

**Bruster** · 04-21-2006, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by crazy horse

A Merc stacker should be worth some good money.

That's ironic, The Stacker looks 10 on a stand or on a boat, and is one of the most valuable, but its one of the most useless motors made.

**Bruster** · 04-21-2006, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by brichter

Someone told me that a 1350 BP is worth two Chrysler stackers.

The value of a "1350 BP" would depend entirely on what motor it was made from......

**gatorer15** · 04-21-2006, 07:40 PM

is this type of motor http://s50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...=NewImage3.jpg I have 80 hp,50,35,9.8 all oldie's

**Raceman** · 04-22-2006, 08:41 AM

What Bruce is sayin' is........... Merc NEVER made a 1350BP.

Personally I think the Mark75H Merc is the Holy Grail of outboard collectibles. Some of the OMC stuff is right up there too, the 4 cyl Stinger and Stinger GP Johnson and the Evinrude counterparts the Strangler and Super Strangler. The CCC and RS OMC's would have to be at the top of the list also. The Merc Twisters are higher on my personal desirability list, but it seems like there are more of em around, so they're not as unique.

As far as Stackers, I've got three of em (and would have 4 if Kim would ever get me that extra elbow), so they don't seem quite as ellusive or desireable as some of the stuff I've never been able to find. (we always want what we can't have).

**Dave S** · 04-23-2006, 06:58 AM

Ya rite Racman, we get what we look for and they sit on the floor. Then it gets old and we look for something more fancy or rare. I am looking for a Merc Drone V4 air cooled, just because I think it is Rare....... Someone might have a bunch of them not thinking they are rare as henstheeth.

I think the Stacker is the coolest looking, but why stop there, get them all, like trading cards.

BoysToys.

**Raceman** · 04-24-2006, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Inline Six

The top of my list is the Evinrude Super Strangler,

Carl would be crushed if he knew you said that.

**RBT** · 04-24-2006, 03:30 PM

Carl should be crushed, he has got a running one!

RT

**brichter** · 04-24-2006, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Raceman

What Bruce is sayin' is........... Merc NEVER made a 1350BP.

Personally I think the Mark75H Merc is the Holy Grail of outboard collectibles. Some of the OMC stuff is right up there too, the 4 cyl Stinger and Stinger GP Johnson and the Evinrude counterparts the Strangler and Super Strangler. The CCC and RS OMC's would have to be at the top of the list also. The Merc Twisters are higher on my personal desirability list, but it seems like there are more of em around, so they're not as unique.

As far as Stackers, I've got three of em (and would have 4 if Kim would ever get me that extra elbow), so they don't seem quite as ellusive or desireable as some of the stuff I've never been able to find. (we always want what we can't have).

Not being a Mercguy, I can't confirm or disprove that A 1350BP was ever built, But an extremely knowledgeable former racer I know that has one insists Merc did indeed build a 1350BP (or two). Having worked for the other guys, one thing I do know is there are truths and legends and as of right now I still don't know. If I take a 3 hour drive and look at it myself, I probably still won't know.

**Mark75H** · 04-24-2006, 03:58 PM

Merc both did and did not "build" 1350BP's ... they were a factory team only motor not for sale to anyone .... so basically they did build them .... but did not SELL them. To my knowledge they have standard 1350 decals ... so you sort of wouldn't know/couldn't tell even if you owned it; all you would see is a 1350 decaled motor with stacks over a BP mid with a Super Speedmaster adapted to the bottom ... the whole deal could have been made at the factory, at a dealer or a few weeks ago in someone's garage.

If someone can tell me how you could confirm a particular 1350 stacker is a factory race motor, I'm more than willing to listen.

**bridges** · 04-24-2006, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mark75H

Merc both did and did not "build" 1350BP's ... they were a factory team only motor not for sale to anyone .... so basically they did build them .... but did not SELL them. To my knowledge they have standard 1350 decals ... so you sort of wouldn't know/couldn't tell even if you owned it; all you would see is a 1350 decaled motor with stacks that could have been made at the factory, at a dealer or a few weeks ago in someone's garage.

Sam, thanks for the clarification, you beat me to it! Mercury did in fact put together some "1350" Super BPs for racing, and some of them made it to private owners, I know of one dealer who had one in the early seventies.

It's too easy to fall in to the trap of saying that something was "never" done! Mercury, like any company involved in racing and cutting edge development, did a lot of things that are long forgotten, and sometimes make us scratch our heads when we see them now. Just like the Twister 1 with the aluminum flywheel. We'll probably never really know it's history!

**brichter** · 04-24-2006, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Inline Six

Ok maybe I stated that wrong. The only reason a super strangler is on top of the list is because its something that is extremely rare, and man its a neat looking engine with that 15 inch mid and speedmaster

My all time favourite motor is the 1500XS. If I had to go on a desert island, I would take my 1500XS.

I still don't see how a T2X can be more readily available than a strangler/stinger...I've never seen a complete T2X in real life but have seen a few super stranglers.

Nothing sounds quite like a Super Strangler, Love the HOOOOWL.....gives me goosebumps. They are pretty too, love the anodized blue flywheel and the gold 8 barrel.