New BRP/Rotax OB?

[RiverRat71]

I tend to agree with the above assessment. A lower unit under water is one thing. A breathing engine under water is a different kettle of fish.

I agree as well. First we have to get past the engine being a piece of sh!t. RR

[FUJIMO]

...hey, you said someone needed to make a short shaft 2 stroke for the smaller v-bottoms again. here it is......

[RiverRat71]

...hey, you said someone needed to make a short shaft 2 stroke for the smaller v-bottoms again. here it is......

Not quite, lol. RR

[Instigator]

It’s almost a Sea Drive!

[half fast]

Competitive manufacturers often purchase the competition’s new offerings to evaluate and study it . I bet Mercury just said , nah we’re good .

[LakeFever]

You have to hand it to BRP, the company does not rest on the laurels, they innovate! Good things come from those who take this approach. As a sled guy ive heard all the knocks at them when they innovated to an entirely new platform twenty years ago. Even i was skeptical but the winning of most championships and literally every other sled manufacturer attempting to copy them still to this day and are still playing catch up. The market might be now finally equalizing but it took twenty years. This new outboard deal is the second big innovation from BRP this year to launch and thats super cool

whether any of us buy these products or not, this innovative approach will promote the same from Merc and Yami which is good for all camps. Look at the performance car market for instance, the LS whipped em all so bad it relit the entire performance genre back to life and now you can buy a turn key 720hp Ram TRX because of it.

i always salut the innovators even if they are not my preferred brand. If we didnt? Well what was that thing they built over yonder called? A Laga? Oh wait it was a Yuga, no wait i think it might have been Laduh and yougobarf

[pcrussell50]

Innovation … Innovative solutions to problems. I’m all for it. So what problem is this new design solving? Center of gravity? I can see that in a racing engine. Is higher CG really a problem that needs solving among the other 99% of users?

-Peter

[John S]

If you look at the boats in the link, it looks like the reasoning is to get the motor in a spot that maximizes transom space/ limits noise. Everyone is a critic. Have any of you detractors done any type of research other than looking at the above link? I'd like to see some crazy sumbich bolt one on to a viper or the like. Maybe a CF Nass (or whoever is making them now) cowl....

[scott reierson]

Wow Amazing...We saw that Ghost idea 4+ Years ago at a BRP press release.

To the best of my knowledge BRP still owns Manitou & Alumacraft. Also Telwater in Australia with Quintex, Stacer, Savage & Yellowfin Plate

If they package that drive in a well marketed Feature, Benefit, Advantage campaign with competitive price and attractive monthly payment in addition to the long BRP 7-10 yr promo warranty it will sell.

It will be interesting to see if it gets off the runway and gets traction. Spare Aluminum prop sales should be good.

If it does gain traction after its still birth, I would imagine they already have the electric motor spec to fit in the housing, with a marine style battery pack similar to what we've in the electric boat prototypes. Lots of stuff goin on with electric OB motor deveopement right now in the PE segment

[LakeFever]

Innovation … Innovative solutions to problems. I’m all for it. So what problem is this new design solving? Center of gravity? I can see that in a racing engine. Is higher CG really a problem that needs solving among the other 99% of users?

-Peter

i really dont know but i doubt its just sales gimmickery from BRO because if it is? That will be a first that ive seen. They must have some reason for it. Could be as simple as putting easy to spot distance from the competition? They sure tried to do this with the etec ob’s then merc quickly revamped their look to similar only better imo. This move will be very hard to emulate quickly for the other camps. If this system proves popular with customers? Well, then it would be a smart move. If it doesn’t catch on that will be that i suppose. Price point will make a big impact on sales vs competition so we will have to see how that plays out

the market demand has shifted to quiet, unseen etc so this plays into that. Also might be a preface to some electric ob all in one? Ya never know but im sure it will be innovative

[David]

It has an extra 90 degree turn for the power. How much loss would that be?

[FUJIMO]

If you look at the boats in the link, it looks like the reasoning is to get the motor in a spot that maximizes transom space/ limits noise. Everyone is a critic. Have any of you detractors done any type of research other than looking at the above link? I'd like to see some crazy sumbich bolt one on to a viper or the like. Maybe a CF Nass (or whoever is making them now) cowl....

...on an aired out viper would be good...and at the same time...help you from blow'n over...

[LakeFever]

I wonder how much the displacement of the engine cradle/pan adds buoyancy? With the ultra low cg if one of these in the 250hp range will hang off the back of a stream without sinking it? That could change things a LOT and not just for stream owners. There are millions of good 18’ish boats still out there that cant float those merc motors

[RiverRat71]

I wonder how much the displacement of the engine cradle/pan adds buoyancy? With the ultra low cg if one of these in the 250hp range will hang off the back of a stream without sinking it? That could change things a LOT and not just for stream owners. There are millions of good 18’ish boats still out there that cant float those merc motors

Agree a 1000%. Still got to get past the motor longevity, water intrusion aspect & the gay factor, lol. RR

[FUJIMO]

...i could be mistaken, but i think BRP only makes, and has made for many years, just a 4 stroke, and a 2 stroke version of this little inline rotax engine. they were carb motors forever & nowadays they are efi. it didnt cost them a fortune to put this marketing experiment together. others will definately know more than i do regarding this one(really two) engine(s), that they produce...