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    A guy in the keys removed the bottom paint from a 30 concept and claims its 7mph faster
    Quartershot T-3R 15" 3.5L E-Tec 1.62 Sportmaster


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    Quote Originally Posted by baja200merk View Post
    A guy in the keys removed the bottom paint from a 30 concept and claims its 7mph faster
    Yea .. but they gotz a special coral reef paint removal system down there ..

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    Laugh but:

    Had a dock neighbor at Lake Erie that bought a new 33' Scarab center console w/twin 225's.
    Gorgeous boat that ran low 60's for its newbie owner.
    It stayed in water, at dock w/no bottom paint.

    Couple months later he and the gang were loading up w/scrub brushs and cleaning supplies.
    When I quizzed him he reported that top speed had dropped to 30, it would barely plane and they were headed to the beach to scrub the bottom.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaz View Post
    Yea .. but they gotz a special coral reef paint removal system down there ..
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


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    And then there were two.

    An excellent score.

    '1999 250 hp carb motor. Same as the 225 HO and IMO, the best carb motor they ever built.
    One owner, dealer maintained, repower trade, w/rigging, harness, stainless prop, oil tank etc.
    Clean as a pin, zero corrosion.

    Pending satisfactory inspection and compression test happening now.

    Have leads on two more donor motors/p.heads for FrankenRude upgrades and then swap p.heads and keep these for spares.

    Really getting geeked to get these motors, paint them silver to match the boat, screw em on and spend a Saturday in a lawn chair beside a cooler, staring at the project.
    Love it!

    BTW, sun lounge is done and ready for paint.
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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    And then there were two.

    An excellent score.

    '1999 250 hp carb motor. Same as the 225 HO and IMO, the best carb motor they ever built.
    One owner, dealer maintained, repower trade, $2300 w/rigging, harness, stainless prop, oil tank etc.
    Clean as a pin, zero corrosion.

    Pending satisfactory inspection and compression test happening now.

    Have leads on two more donor motors/p.heads for FrankenRude upgrades and then swap p.heads and keep these for spares.

    Really getting geeked to get these motors, paint them silver to match the boat, screw em on and spend a Saturday in a lawn chair beside a cooler, staring at the project.
    Love it!

    BTW, sun lounge is done and ready for paint.
    Congrats Gary! Awesome find.
    fubijarusmc@gmail.com if you need to contact me

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    Thx guys.
    Its coming together.

    I think my propeller collection is up to 5 pairs
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Came out of the mold good.

    Basic shape and size are also good.
    Ill finish mocking it up and fitting it to the boat then glass the bajesus out of it.

    I like it so far.

    BTW, its about 3" low where its hanging on the back of the boat.
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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Looks really Good! Would think it Weighs a bit less than stainless or aluminum(at least some) Any idea how much it weighs.. And definitely cost less
    5 sets of props what sizes? I may have to visit lol.. hopefully I got it close enough the first time can't wait to find out.
    Last edited by mrichartz; 12-29-2018 at 10:39 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    Came out of the mold good.

    Basic shape and size are also good.
    Ill finish mocking it up and fitting it to the boat then glass the bajesus out of it.

    I like it so far.

    BTW, its about 3" low where its hanging on the back of the boat.
    Looks good, is the bottom open or closed up?

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    Closed.

    Going to figure increase in buoyancy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Strong View Post
    Looks good, is the bottom open or closed up?

    Dave
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    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Nice!
    We have invented the world; WE see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    Closed.

    Going to figure increase in buoyancy.
    Would be a whole lot of drag coming onto plane if it was open.

    Dave
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    According to my math, the enclosed center pod = 340 lbs of bouyancy.
    I like that a lot.

    Should make up for the additional weight and moving it backwards 4’.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    Came out of the mold good.

    Basic shape and size are also good.
    Ill finish mocking it up and fitting it to the boat then glass the bajesus out of it.

    I like it so far.

    BTW, its about 3" low where its hanging on the back of the boat.
    Gary, how much set back did you build into that bracket. I would keep it at an absolute minimum (6-12" max) due to the weight of the motors and narrow beam at the transom. I was running 25" of setback on my Checkmate 2800 and that was too much. It was great for running fast (55+) but not much else...especially after rigging the 3.0L motors. Had I kept my boat, I would've re-rigged her with a Bob's Tandam hyd. 6" jackplate or maybe had Scott Porta build a small setback hyd. Jackplate. There's not a lot of width in the planning surface of the 25' and 28' Checkmates to carry a heavy load at slower speeds (which is one of the reasons they're so fast when running above 60 mph--less friction due to less surface drag). In the end, I wound up getting the boat to consistently run 76+ mph with a full tank (96 gallons) and full cabin (bunks, v birth, cabinets, gear) running the Merc 3.0L 250 EFI's with a set of Mercury Bravo One FS 28's (which I still have). I also thought about moving the batteries into the cabin to help change the COG but never got around to it...
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    Sleekcraft ModVP Bowrider/Evinrude 225 Vindicator
    Velocity 230/Mercury 454 Magnum
    Scout 172 Sportfish/Yamaha 130
    SeaRay F16 Jet boat/Mercury SportJet
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    Jupiter, how much does your 28' Checkmate weigh aprox. Fully rigged of course?

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