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    Have a lead on one motor in Fla.
    Have a buddy checking it out for me.
    If legit he will haul/store it for me until we can road trip down.

    Fingers crossed.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    For Frankenlll pair? Or good running motor?
    Last edited by mrichartz; 12-10-2018 at 09:07 PM.
    LETS GO BRANDON.... LETS GO BRANDON

    Sometimes I talk to myself...then we both just laugh and laugh

    '84 Checkmate Convincor

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    Good running motor.

    My plan now is to go through both motors to build a matching pair of FrankenRude IIIs.

    I have two sets of 2.7 heads and a pair of late era medium bore carbs that are my favorites for a lake boat.
    Frank III already has stuffed intakes and front half and Boyesen reeds.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrichartz View Post
    For Frankenlll pair? Or good running motor?
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Have a 20 inch 225 V rude....vindakator.... next to A gore and Darth V..... lots of parts Come clean my yard / Shop.......I am merc.....Also 2 Merc 225 optis in a local shop.....$1800......I like carbs......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave S View Post
    Have a 20 inch 225 V rude....vindakator.... next to A gore and Darth V..... lots of parts Come clean my yard / Shop.......I am merc.....Also 2 Merc 225 optis in a local shop.....$1800......I like carbs......
    Motor needs to be 25”.
    I have a line on a 20” motor for a donor powerhead but have not acted.

    Thx Dave I’ll call you today.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Sonic 1 at speed.

    It flew way better and was 10 mphs faster than #2 and never figured out why.

    Follow the lifting strikes and transom lines and there’s no bottom in the water.
    That boat came w/20” motors and they drowned coming off/on plane.
    https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...7&d=1544578611

    So ? Sonic 1 20" setback,plus jackplates.. is that running with jackplates in pic? And those are 20 or 25 "

    How were each setup motor height etc

    Looks awesome!
    Last edited by mrichartz; 12-12-2018 at 12:28 PM.
    LETS GO BRANDON.... LETS GO BRANDON

    Sometimes I talk to myself...then we both just laugh and laugh

    '84 Checkmate Convincor

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    One down, one to go.

    ’1999 225, installed new in ‘2000 on 24’ Hydrasports which it just came off of.
    Dealer maintained from day 1, rebuilt gear case 6 months before removal.
    Near Zero corrosion and perfect compression.

    Comes w/harness, controls and spare stainless prop.
    $1500.

    Now have reason for a Fla trip.

    A special thank you to Don Dings (magnum2.5) who w/a 24 hr notice drove an hr to do the inspection for me.
    He is also storing it for me until I can get down there and pick it up.

    Only in Scream and Fly!
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    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instigator View Post
    One down, one to go.

    ’1999 225, installed new in ‘2000 on 24’ Hydrasports which it just came off of.
    Dealer maintained from day 1, rebuilt gear case 6 months before removal.
    Near Zero corrosion and perfect compression.

    Comes w/harness, controls and spare stainless prop.
    $1500.

    Now have reason for a Fla trip.

    A special thank you to Don Dings (magnum2.5) who w/a 24 hr notice drove an hr to do the inspection for me.
    He is also storing it for me until I can get down there and pick it up.

    Only in Scream and Fly!
    Wow, How cool of him to do that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69Jetflte View Post
    Wow, How cool of him to do that!
    "Ask and ye shall recieve!" Scream and Fly has the best members, always willing to help out!
    Josh Peterson

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    Working on the sun lounge this week.

    It has seen better days and needs some love.
    After 30+ yrs of use/abuse, the hinges have worked loose, as did the lift supports which allowed water intrusion which then rotted some of the core.
    On top of this, the seam between top/bottom had separated in areas.

    When they cut the hole for the hood scoop (which I got a $100 for) they did it right and sealed the balsa core that was exposed but not so much on the mounting bolt holes which caused more rot for me to dig out.

    All repairs have been made and Im on the cosmetics now.
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    Last edited by Instigator; 12-16-2018 at 04:49 PM.
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Oh question in post 261 if you remember
    LETS GO BRANDON.... LETS GO BRANDON

    Sometimes I talk to myself...then we both just laugh and laugh

    '84 Checkmate Convincor

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    Yeah was in an earlier post.

    In that picture, 20” setback, no plates and yes, 25” motors, both Sonics.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrichartz View Post
    Oh question in post 261 if you remember
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    That was my first 24’ Sonic.
    It came with 20” 2.4s which I changed to 25” 250 OMCs.
    That boat ran 80.

    The second one came w/25” 225 3.0 Mercs on a 24” bracket. It ran 67 GPS.
    W/warmed up 225 OMCs it ran 70.
    Raised/lowered motors, tried a wall of props (that ran 80 on first one), stock gear cases, Lightning’s etc.
    I had it upside down to paint hull and planned to blue print bottom which was terrible but never did.
    Cant see it being 10 mphs though.

    They were inner liner boats too so you couldn’t tell if it was still glued together or not.

    Again, look at the two pixs and you can see which one is faster.



    Quote Originally Posted by mrichartz View Post
    I read it in the post, was just curious you said it came with 20" motors if you changed it before that pic.
    No setup differences that would account for the 10 mph difference
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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    Bad bottom and it coming unglued could be 10mph
    At least could be big part
    LETS GO BRANDON.... LETS GO BRANDON

    Sometimes I talk to myself...then we both just laugh and laugh

    '84 Checkmate Convincor

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    Agreed.

    Two sets of motors too, w/no change.
    So it wasn’t motors.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrichartz View Post
    Bad bottom and it coming unglued could be 10mph
    At least could be big part
    I'd rather be competitive w/junk I built in my garage than win w/stuff I bought.


    I refuse to allow common sense to interfere w/my boat buying decisions.


    Checkmate 16' 140 Johnson
    Hydrostream 17' Vector FrankenRude I
    Laser 480 (?) 21' w/GT 200
    Glastron Carlson Conquest w/XP 2.6
    Glastron Carlson CVX 20 w/XP 2.6
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 Johnsons
    24' Sonic w/twin 250 HO Johnsons
    19' STV River Rocket w/FrankenRude II
    Allison XR 2002 w/Frankenrude II
    Hydrostream 18' V-King w/Frankenrude II

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