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If you wanted an F3 Waterski race style boat. 24+ degree deadrise, <6ft beam 20-22ft.
Where would you look?
I plan to rebuild into a side console skiff with 115-140hp. I know no one else in the world wants a boat like this, but I do.
Long term pipe dream. Nothing I could start for a year or so.
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That’s a very unique looking boat. I don’t know anything about these but wouldn’t a Progressions 22 or similar type boat suit the very same purpose? The hull dimensions you outlined are very similar.
Progression 22 is 7’8” Beam ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scream And Fly
Tuff 20 is the narrowest I know at 6’10”
If your in CT maybe we could link up on a build like that
I am from CT. My father is still there. The boat is mostly for him, but I have a feeling I'll be paying for a lot of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaronhl
I'm in SC. Do you have a shop in CT?
No unfortunately I was hoping you had one LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by fpjeepy05
I got a garage at my house i usually work out of, bunch of tools, and have made fiberglass molds for rc boats, like you i think my long term goal would be to build a full size boat
Well I'm a designer in the industry. I can model it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaronhl
Nice looking boats. Probably going to be hard to find an old used one here. Here is one in California. Click on the picture. Phone number is at the bottom.
2004 Bernico F2 powerboat for sale in California (powerboatlistings.com)
PROS-22 | website (chaudronpowerboats.com)
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I like the F3 better than F2. Planning to power with 115hp-140hpQuote:
Originally Posted by skialot2
Nitra 22SSO looks pretty cool
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Clear out your old DMs so I can send you one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aaronhl
Hallet f2 cyclone molds are out there somewhere, not a 24 degree though. You can buy a 22 Chaudron, that's the closest to the spec you mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by fpjeepy05
you could find an old 24/7 hull, many guys made them and cut it down, section it. And you'd be close to the spec you wanted.
Depends on your budget.
Do you know what the beam was on the Hallett F2? And they had an F3 as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by WavetoWave
I think 20 degrees would be enough for what I want to do. Anything will be better than the 12 degrees that most of the fish boats in this size have.
I think it's 7'Quote:
Originally Posted by fpjeepy05
Chaudron is 6'
I don't like that the shorts boats don't look like the big boats because the proportions are changed. I like the fishing boats around 30ft with around 8'6" beam ie; Superboat 30, Contender 28T, SeaVee 290, Rabco 28, Rambo 27, Intrepid 322, Scarab (Older) 302, Whitewater 32, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by WavetoWave
30/8.5 ≈ 3.5 --- 21/6 = 3.5
A smaller 30 superboat at the same proportions would be 21ft x 6ft. I know it will be tippy. I fish out of a canoe a lot. I don't mind it. I'd rather be able to run fast through chop.
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Speedcraft 22ft. Offshore hull, corners like on rails, 4 3/4 ft hull beam. Also there is a 20ft model which looks similar apart from 1.5ft shorter deck and 6" shorter well. The 20ft corners better but the 22ft is better in the rough. Strong and thick laminate using Vinylester or Epoxy with Resin Infusion Method designed and tested in offshore race conditions. Starts from $40k delivered to any port in the East coast of the USA.
Very cool. Doesn't look that narrow in the photos. Also, the bow looks a little goofy, but I could probably get use to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by bep078
How fast is it with a 115 or 140?
Go find a Team Warlock 23 Offshore and convert it to OB. 6 foot beam and 24 degree V. You will never find the other boats mentioned so far, the US just does not have them and certainly not in your budget. Good luck.
The 23 World Class is narrow, but the beam is 6'-8"Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg G
Bingo! Greg is the winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg G
"Team Warlock 23 Offshore" (23' x 6') not to be confused with "Warlock 23" (23'6" x 6'7")
So now the next question is where do I find a Team Warlock 23 Offshore
Both comments are a touch wrong. There was Team Warlock and then Ultimate Warlock and then Warlock. The Ultimate Warlock and Warlock had the same model which was the 23 XRI. These hulls are completely different from the earlier Team Warlock designed hulls which were specifically designed to handle rough water.
The exact beam on the Team Warlock 23 World Class Offshore is 77". All of the hulls were 24 degree deadrise V and were built with 4 stringers.
So none of them had a 6ft beam?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg G
Correct, none of the Team Warlock's had a 72" beam. Both the 23 Offshore and the 24 Euro were 77"Quote:
Originally Posted by fpjeepy05
That makes them pretty close to the rest of the 24x7 boats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg G
The Hallett F2 Molds are in my garage... Laid up a carbon version a few years ago, it runs good!Quote:
Originally Posted by WavetoWave
What's the beam on that hull? Deadrise?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyHippy
Definitely a pic needed post.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyHippy
Hallett F2 is a lake boat just like a Tuff. All good if its smooth and glassy
Interesting post... WAY Wrong, but interesting none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg G
This was 62 miles of open ocean, Average speeds in the mid 50's for this run, and limited by human ability to be abused WAY before boat concerns... https://youtu.be/tcVd7P1zUFw?si=0Q5mnebXmoqCycdO
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A Tuff 21 or 20 is a much bigger much more wave capable boat than my SS2000. Forever ago I drove a 21 over rollers that would have given my SS2000 fits. If you want your Tuff set up for rough, they can and will do it. I’d expect a top end set up to be a bit different, but ballast tanks help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg G
The 20 is longer, narrower, and faster than the 21
I'm interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyHippy
If DMs I send don't end up in "sent messages" does that mean they didn't send? Quite frustrating
Hey Hippy, can you send me some information for the price of a hull?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyHippy
Anyone have another means to get a hold of Hippy?Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyHippy
How about now?
I'm still intersted in a hull if you still have the molds, Hippy.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyHippy
Just buy the Chaudron 22 for sale on here, in mint condition, and ready to run.Quote:
Originally Posted by fpjeepy05
I want to chop it up and turn it into a center console.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg G