Formula V races in Canada

I found this in reading the meeting notes for Canadian Boating Federation "Zone Ontario". Seems there were races to be had in 2005, but, no FV racers were informed.

2005 Annual CBF Convention
Zone Ontario Report
Although talks between Marty Broeders of the O.P.C division and zone Ontario were held earlier this year, several planned races by the O.P.C division did not materialize. Plans were made to include the Formula Vclass at Almonte, Sydenham and Deseronto regattas in 2005. All 3 Race Chairman’s were contacted and all of them were in agreement to include the Formula V Class at their regattas. The insurance company was called several times to ensure that their requirements would be met to include Formula V. A small
additional insurance cost of approximately $300.00 to $400.00 was required. The race clubs could not see their way clear to cover these additional insurance cost at this time. The driver’s fees and club memberships
are not set up for profit but rather to simply cover the cost of grass roots racing and keep this division as affordable as possible. But all would rework their financial plans if indeed Formula V returned to the circuit.
Past Chair Glen Stevenson then contacted Marty Broeders and informed him that Formula V would be included at 3 races for 2005 provided that, current CBF rules and safety procedures would be followed and the additional insurance costs be paid 45 days in advance of each race, the same as outboard and required by the current insurance company we use.
At this time we have not heard back from any representative at O.P.C.
As the zone committee has cleared the way and the insurance company is acceptable I think the O.P.C group should join one of the clubs this winter and work with that club to have their insurance cost included in the driver’s fees as is the case now.

If? the meeting notes are correct and they are following the last CBF rules for Formula V then. [I have the rule book]
13 foot minimum length
Stock motors to 61.66 cu. inch
700 lb minimum weight
No cells

Your could join TORC [Toronto Outboard Racing Club] GOOD CLUB! NICE PEOPLE!
There's 10 to 20 boats in Ontario. Split the $300. to $400. dollars insurance
and it would not be too costly.

You could also allow 40 hp. motors in. That gets the younger people into racing while they are under 40 hp maximum restriction. Gives you a place to sell your old race boats. The boats should still run in the 50's with the 40 hp
and there are lots of cheap 40 hp Yamahas etc. around.

Six Mile Racers looks like a good opportunity for FUN!

we could also drag race our boats if enough of us show interest

Formula V is in need of more exposure, there are so many boat's rigged and ready out there, ready to play, it's a shame to see the class slowly dissappear.

I've made efforts over the past years to keep this class going, it takes team work and a lot of effort keeping everyone on the same page. All who's interested should step up and be counted, all it takes is a little commitement. ..a membership and some dues...to help cover insurance for the class to compete in these events.

It's the grass roots entry level racing that gives us all our start, show some heart and effort to keep it alive.

What's $ 30.00 each for insurance, not much for a good time at the races.

Mart.

Hey Guys

Well heres the thing we need to see whos interested and who will show up to the races. I will help out as much as i can let me know what i can do. Right now my boat is up for sale so we need to get the ball rolling because i am willing to keep it if we get things going. For our entry fee why dont we have a fundraiser or look for sponsors? If we are going to do this we need to keep it going because after belwood everything died and that was a great time. I think we should get as many boats involved like Don said 40 hps as well so everyone can get the feel for it not everyone has to enter with a 65 mph boat. There will obviously be 5 or 6 boats at the top but the other will have just as much fun fighting for spots amoung eachother.

This is a great sport and since my first race ive wanted more so If someone wants to take the lead on this I will help out but i have no experience organizing this and older people have more of an influence than a 18 year old.

Paul

One more thing 300-400 a race? I guess we need memeberships again as well. Don are you going to bring your boats?

I'd be willing to pay a membership fee to go racing. I'd even pay more to see the association flourish and gain media attention if that is so desired, in order to lift this type of racing from the dead, and get it into the mainstream.

Lets see it happen, my boat will be there! Who else is in?

Are we talking about drag or circuit racing ?

Either or, Im in :cool:

I ran in sst45 & that was a great class.
Just to far to travel:(

Cheap & alot of parts.
Think about it. I can find all the boats & motors we need ?

I can also drag race the Stv.:eek:

What ever is going on in Ontario or Quebec Im in!!

Keep me posted, I can help in almost any way.

how about we get a list going of emails and boats if we are going to do this lets do it right. Maybe have a meeting so we can get things organized.

Paul

make a few calls this evening, and put together a tentative list of racers vitals to get the ball rolling.

Knox if you can go on msn after and we can maybe organize a six mile crew list or at least get some thoughts together. If we include the 40hp class what kind of boats does that include?

If there is enough interest we could certanily look at a O/B Drag class for 3 cylinders and include it with our o/b drag efforts through CBF for 2006

anyone interested in racing this season please email me your vitals.

i am looking for name, address, home phone #, and email.

with this information we can get the ball rolling. things like snail mail, email and phone calls can be sent out, to get things set up.

this is a crucial portion of what needs to be done to get things off the ground.

more to come.

Don Mentioned this last time
[1] insurance should not be an issue. Stock outboards run motors "E" motors on non celled 80 mph boats. These boats are slower and safer.
[2] motor rules.. Belwoods was the last CBF race and it was run what you bring. With no prize money I think the rules will be the same. Safety is KEY,
so all boats must pass the inspection.
[3] If there are alot of lake boats. They could run in their own heat. If its a long course. A 2 flag start should spread the boats enough to avoid problems.
More boats the better. If theres 2 heats people could share jackets and helmets.
[4] the different style of boats will add to the interest. As long as you have a few boats that run close to the same speed. They will enjoy the event.

i will post the contact info i have tomorow its at home.....im in for one boat as long as it doesn't interfear with the states races......

maby two boats....... i am getting jimmy allens old chritchy soon.......

not his new one? tommys boat?

Good to see the interest. We e-mailed our information in. If there is a shortage of 40 hp boats, we will rig one of ours with a 40. Mike you could do the same with one of yours. We know that the family weight Voo-Doos run
mid 50's as do some of the Deltas. There's a good chance a 40 on a raceboat will run close to the same speed. Always nice for the smaller motor to pass the larger one. At the top of the scale there should be TopGun's 650XS and Frank's Fast Fred Yamaha Voo Doo. Fifteen to twenty boats would sure put on a show.
As for prize money you could have everyone put $20.00 into a lucky draw.
That way the focus remains on fun and anyone can win with the lucky draw.

Lets make it happen!!

What can I do?

Where did you email your information in to?

i agree with the prize money or even have no prize money at all we could put the 20 bucks to some awards such as top 40 hp top overall stuff like that is always better than cash because we want to make the sport appealing again.

Don,

i just got the email now, if this keeps up we will have a large field of racers.

Glad you got the e-mail, I sent it through your S & F e-mail address. I got a few phone calls last nite. There could be even more boats out there than I was aware of. Here are a few suggestions that were made.
[1] There are many young people interested, but lack funds. They have time to help organize. There are many who just want to race and have funds.
Suggestion..You put in time or money. For starters I will pay the $400. insurance for the first race. WHO ELSE WANTS TO STEP-UP?
[2] There are lots of "good" parts out there. We need a person to take ownership of that. These parts are only sold to people that race and are sold at very low prices.
[3] Promotion boat. We need a centre steer VooDoo with 2 inline seats.
Interested wantabee racers can sign on as crew on raceday, pay the crew fee and sign the forms. This gets them in the pits and gets them a ride during testing around the race course. Think it will get more racers? It usually only takes one ride to get hooked.
[4] Competition.. There will be alot. But, it will be at different levels. Some will what to have the Fastest Formula V in the class. Some will just want to beat their buddies. Some are interested in getting to be a better driver. The experts in the class know that it takes skill to drive these boats around a race course and it is not the boat with the most power that wins.

Don Im glad that you have been around the sport for a while and are still dedicated to it. These are great ideas. As of right now i wont be able to supply the 400 bucks for a race because i am in university but if anyone wants to help me for the second ill put 50 bucks in because thats all i can afford right now. We can try to fundraise some money as well.

Who do we contact to let them know we are interested?

Another concern is we need to round up a bunch of life lines....any ideas?

Paul

Glad to see the interest there, and the number of racers is larger then expected!
As for time and money. I have little of both, between work, school, and social life I basically have none, but that being said I will dedicate my time to this if we think it can happen.
Thus far I have a tentantive list of interested racers, numbering about 8 or 9, and this is only after the first day and speaking to people whom which i am in direct contact with. So I think the interest is there, and thats the first step.
As for money, I am also a student, but i am willing to match Paul Orchard's (Three_banger) contribution of $50, and add another $50 to the pot, to get things cooking. =$150 from students!!!!!!
As for highlight boat, there are a number of deltas,voo doo's and crithcys on the lake, I'm positive we can find one that be used in a promo gig. Infact my buddy has a delta that with a coat of paint could possibly do the job, but we can figure that out later.

Anyone else interested in this please email me your vitals so i can book them in file, and we can get a real idea of how many people are interested, and is also a way of contacting you and informing all of what is to come!

Paul there are always jackets for sale on ebay...Search using "Racing"

ohh ic what i mean by that though is the people who are just coming it its a lot of money to spend on a lifeline and a helmet...

where do we send in our money/information to say we are ready to race?

your gunna have too spend $$$$$$$ regardless............

its you life your dealing with its worth the $$$$$$$ plus testing, you should have proper gear anyway......

i have a large life line jaket & a xlarge capsle suit......4 sale

but they might be out dated have to check them.....

Here is the Link for TORC. [Toronto Outboard Racing Club]
http://www.fralickboats.com/index.5.torc.html
The contact names are there.
You will notice that they list OPC as part of their membership and this club runs many races in Ontario . Check their race schedule.
Ebay sells jackets at varied prices. Some go very cheap. Also Stock outboard uses the same jacket. Good buys are out there.

GUYS,

Cool to see the FV interest...you have my support.

Alos please note that we may be parralleling here.

There is interested group of O/B Drags doing a similar thing right now with CBF

See link and the steps we are currently taking.

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...d.php?t=100684

Just think...stocks, FV and O/B Drags on the same bill...that would be great for our sport...and it should bring our event insurance costs down too if we all work together toward the same event.

Hope too see you all at the races;)

Here is the complete Zone Ontario report.

http://www.cbfnc.ca/english/forms/20...arioReport.pdf

The Zone Ontario contact names are there. You will notice that many executives are members of TORC. I suggest you contact TORC FIRSTand submit the list of racers. This will raise their interest. Then confirm to them that you have the first insurance premium ready once race one is confirmed. All Formula V races should join the same club. You can elect your own TORC OPC rep and THIS IS A GOOD CLUB!!

Auto-Stan be sponsoring any races ?

Actually CBF has restructered so the info on the report is somewhat obsolete. The guy to speak to that will make things happen is Glen Stevenson. He is the Director of Clubs. Apparently you guys have spoke to him already on this

Glen: (905) 352-3212

AnthonySS. I was doing my reply as you were doing yours. Hopefully ,everything will work out for both groups. I think Formula V's best chance to restart is with TORC because of the links with Zone Ontario and the races TORC manage. The lines of communication will be shorter. If this group signs up 10 to 15 new TORC members. The Club should welcome them. and support Formula V.
I am sure some of the current TORC executive reads this board and it would be a comfort to have them post a "Positive" reply.

DON

Yes our group may also be signing up with TORC (not confirmed yet). I was at a social event with a number of those guys (webster, fralick, dixon, keegan, stevenson...etc ) just a few weeks ago and they are welcoming the idea of O/B Drags...I am sure Formula V would be the same and they would love to have us both at thier events.

We' ll all be keeping HOWIE busy this year;)

Marty sent me a list of past racers in the formula v class.
I will make some phone calls tomorrow evening and figure out who is still intrested or who still has a rig.

I lack experience so I'm at a stand still of what else I can do. i stated in my previous post that my time is limited but I will make time for this to happen.

I have contacted the administrator of fralick, and will hopefully hear back from him.

any suggestions?

Once you get the list. You should forward it to TORC. I e-mailed Rick and suggested he look at this thread. IF they say "OK" then we can all submit our TORC membership forms and go from there.

My one concern is that Formula V and Drag boats may overshadow the other classes. The other TORC members may not welcome the change.

Sorry, to report that Howie [unless he went back] is not at Markham Propeller.