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My apple is red. Your orange is green. There's always someone faster with more motor or money. Alex Graham Bell did 80 mph in 1917 +/- with, what they claimed, a 400 hp on a ladder style Hydrofoil. What we have done, in the context of speed achievement, is just called play. Your Progression will beat my FE Hydro. It's too rough for me. The Hydrostream will beat the Progression because it's not rough enough to loosen the hull. Apples and oranges. Hey, Raceman! Yankee thick air is nitrous.:)
your all on ,as soon as he puts the boat in water this year you will see , get to the atm machine , i want cash not beer !!!
p.s at100plus , how many 21 skaters, allison,hydrostreams stvs have blown over and barrel rolled in the past , so you shouldnt point fingers at one boat that flipped and say it cant handle it !!
p.s phast boat you wont have a hangover but you will be a little light in the wallet !! and the 100mph progression does not have the 300x on it so we dont even have to talk about it anymore , and as much as i dont like superboats this one will shut you all up !!!
If the baby blue progression was the cats meow (pun intended) with the 300x, why was it taken off and a 280 put on. Again, how fast with the 280:confused: What happend when it went over?? I heard he wasn't hurt, but what caused the incident?? Helmet said that guy now has a STV, why not just keep running the progression if it is the best??:confused: :confused:
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I don't want anybody to take my last post the wrong way, I really do like Progressions,;) I think they are extremely cool and would love to own one:cool: But I want to know the real story behind the baby blue one, how it went over 100, why it flipped, why the motor was changed, and why the owner switched to an STV:confused:
To better understand my perspective, I am currently rigging a 22 Activator with a 280, and am really hoping to see the mid 80's, I think 100 would be just a dream (probably a scarry one at that).
Come on all you LI NY guys that have the info, let us know the real story;)
This thread is interesting in many ways...
First, it is a very good debate, and we can all enjoy that. It was kept friendly too, which is great. Good job, everyone. This is what makes Scream And Fly great.
All boats are unsafe at the hands of an irresponsible driver. Skater, Progression, Superboat – you name it.
I’ve seen MANY Skaters go over in many different ways, just like we have seen accidents involving Allisons, Mirages, STVs, Hydrostreams, and yes – the blue Progression.
I’ve also seen many accidents involving Corvettes – does that mean I wouldn’t want to own one? No way. Does that mean I won’t want a Skater? Never.
We can all agree that any machine is at the mercy of its operator, and the conditions that the operator presents to it. No boat design will make up for ignorance – especially at 100 mph.
In the whole history of Progression, the blue boat is the first to ever go over, but it is far from the first Progression to go over 100 mph. Ironically, it happened when he was racing a 28 Skater in 2-3 foot chop on Memorial Day weekend.
As for how the boat handles 100 mph – I’ve been in many Progressions and fast Superboats, and with the right driver, they are both very safe – about as safe as a sub 23’ 100 mph boat could be.
Joe L’s twin 2.5 Superboat 21 was running about 100. Hoser is running 90’s with his 21 Superboat. Joe Imprescia is running 99 in his 21 Superboat, and the John G ran 101 in his Progression with the 300X. That same boat ran 96 with a 2.5 280. This is not as uncommon as many think.
These are ALL very good performance boats, and they run very well at 100 mph. I know from experience.
Greg
Good reply Greg.
The thing that gets this thread rollin is two fold:
1. Greg and Jerry's bias in favor of Progression
2. All the talk about how great Progression is, but nobody ever sees these boats at the gatherings doing their thing.
If someone would do some Ronnie/Viper type antics one day with a progression at a Rondak Romp or a Conn. River run, we might all be impressed! :cool:
Jody, Thanks...
Velocitoy,
I like the 6800 too...might have to move the rev limiter up to 7000, didn't realise how it sounded until My friend took some Video's. The Arneson works great, very little if any torque steer. She's pretty stable for an 18 footer!!! I only use the tabs if there is a strong side wind to level out the boat. Just need to pick your water; things can happen quick at speeds. :eek:
Come on Greg or Jerry, spill the beans, how fast with the 280????
96 mph with the 280.
Greg:)
HEY JERRY! i think you missed my last post saying how ronnie WHOOPED joey imprescia's superboat with his spare powerhead (he was going 94mph tops)Quote:
Originally posted by jerry
For you guys who know joey imprescia, jerry knows he has a 21 superboat with a 300x and jerry knows it will 99 on gps , if there is anyone that wants to put there money where there mouths is lets antie up girls !!!. joes boat is a at least 15 yrs old and its a superboat ( no offence hoser ) and it runs 99 ,
SO IF ANY ONE WANTS TO PUT UP SOME CASH WE WILL GET YOU A RIDE ON THE 99MPH 21 S.B ( wont go 99 with you in it but will go over 95 garranteed !!! ) so jerry wants to see whos got the big ones , gelcoat joe ?? phastboat ?? ChrisXS2003 ? Liqui-Fly??
so first off that boat no way goes 99mph. jerry this happend last yr before winter on the marshes. PHASTBOAT, SPEEDFREAK (ERIC) AND I were outthere and saw it! you stoped by for a minute but had to go.
scott
GottaGoFast, Heath says Jerry missed that post, Heath knows Jerry will miss this post as well. Heath says bet none of these boats come out of hiding. Heath hopes he's not the only one who sees the humor here as Heath says Heath don't want to sound like Jerry.:D ;)
When I was a kid, I rigged a window washer motor to spray the back tire in my car...it would smoke just great then:D Not wanting to advocate polluting open water though; but there could be some safe things you could try. Problem is the wind gets to blowing at 90mph.
scott get it:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by heath brinkley
GottaGoFast, Heath says Jerry missed that post, Heath knows Jerry will miss this post as well. Heath says bet none of these boats come out of hiding. Heath hopes he's not the only one who sees the humor here as Heath says Heath don't want to sound like Jerry.:D ;)
scott