Tricks that old racers get up to after retirement

If you look on WILLABEE'S Hot multis site there's a blast from the past with the name of Joe Fielder.
He was racing Havasu in 1970, after I tried for Canaveral, I wound up with my nose taking a hike earwards and any chance I had of making a big or little screen career went into the long distance.
I was bemoaning my situation until I looked over into the next bed, there was this mas of ropes and pulleys, a body totally covered in plaster of Paris from head to foot------not even slits for eyes------I looked at the poor sod and thanked God for letting me off lightly. I asked the nurse what happened to the guy--------"was it a semi, or did he drive in front of a locomotive?".
No, they said, that's Joe Fielder-----he's a boat racer! ---enough said!

If there's a "Curmudgeon" month, then it's got to be January ---short,wet, miserable,cold and windy, collars turned up with daily glances at the weather forecast in the hope that it's an improvement on yesterday.
Did manage a couple of hours in the shop yesterday and three on Sunday -----Her indoors has taken to fetching in the logs for the fire, just until I'm up and running, and yesterday she handed me an old bent and knarled piece of timber and asked me if I could make her a "GIESHA" out of it, will take an "In Progress" piccy, just to show how things are going in Wilsons World!
I try and do a daily newsletter, more to let my friends know that most of me is still functioning well and the rest I can lie about-------in fact, just like always.

Got an interesting letter in my private notifications, funny thing is, it was dated APRIL 2013 and came from "BIG GEORGE", him and his team had done well at PARKER, but his face didn't fit and he'd been shafted-----------George, if you get in touch with me, we can talk long and hard about this. I don't understand how come it's dated nearly two years ago, but only turned up in the mailbox yesterday ------------I know I've been a bit off color, but I didn't think I'd lost any marbles!
if any of you know of a "BIG GEORGE"----- please give me a shout.

Beard trim and haircut today, Jilly reckons after one of her treatments I look ten years younger and more like a "bean" ------a human bean that is.

Three hours in the shop today, things progressing nicely, forgot to take any phoggies but there's no hurry. There's no buyers or anyone waiting just yet, got a semi commision from Rich, but he didn't give me a deadline and I won't be in Florida yet a while anyways, and I only got the gleanings of an idea. Be expensive Rich, but I promise you it'll be well worth it.
If you want it to be the best trophy in powerboating history, it's got to be a bit pricey. When it represents the Concours de Elegance of one of the world's most exclusive boating organisations I can't just cobble it together like I do most things, it's got to have a wee bit of flair, panache and desirability, the best of everything and executed rather well.
Lets face it Rich, there's not going to be any more like it, and I want folk to turn round and say " didn't Jackie Wilson do that. So I do have a bit of interest in as well! You did light my candle a bit at our last meeting. It's late and I'm tired so MYGGWY .J.

Big George is still intriguing me but not a peep out of anyone who may know anything. They certainly finished in the top five overall.
Better day today but it's not here to stay, we got gales and all sorts of undesirables coming in at the weekend. Thought this mild front couldn't last, 7th January and still no snow.
Do you a couple of piccies later today.
Steve next door was doing some hazel coppicing and chucked me a nice piece over the fence that some ivy had twisted itself round , skinned it and lo and behold we got a walking stick.

Attachment 312575as usual, once I get into the routine off things I begin to enjoy it. Probably won't end up looking anything like this.

With a bit of luck and no rain, Jilly is dropping me off at Ford car boot sale crack-o-sparrow tomorrow morning. Two months since I went there, the best laid plans of mice and men etc,.
Told me not to stay on the iPad 'till midnight so it's lights out, night all, MYGGWY .J.

Didn't get any luck, just rain, lashings of it, Jilly dropped me off, but I called her five minutes later and told her to come back, all is forgiven , but by that time I was fairly damp. When my knickers get wet--------it's one of two things, so I tell you it did chuck it down for an hour or two?
Maybe next week.

Jackie - Since my prostatectomy 3 years ago, I certainly understand your comment "When my knickers get wet--------it's one of two things" :o:o:eek: - PBS

Love the "WER KNICKERS" Stavros !now does that mean they reach saturation point and are no longer? Or they were once before and are saved for napkins, oil rags, screen wipes or winter flu cures--------patent it and retire wealthy my friend.
Got another couple of hours in the shop today Steve, trouble is, I spend so much time actually achieving very little, I begin to wonder if I shoulda stayed under the sheets until later, hope something takes shape before long---------I wouldn't hammer on the Tates doors demanding entry with this current bunch of tat.
we got the Jet Stream hitting 250 knots this weekend all the way from from Lands End to John-o-Groats-------there will be snot , tears and bent and broken belongings all over the hog market.

Hear tell they cancelled the first offshore race already------does this mean the first one is in July ?
Buggered if I'd invest two to ten million dollars to do four or five races, something's badly wrong somewhere.
Look in any Offshore Yearbook over the last fifty years and things ain't never been this bad before.

You think maybe the idea of "a formula" might not be too silly?

That's the trouble with being as smart as I'm not, I have to post the thread to get rid of the coloured text
Did any of you out there notice the last seven posts were number 1299 but S&F in its wisdom finally took their socks off and came up with 1300-----dummies still don't know whether I'm in Hull, Hell or Halifax----------for the benefit of the colonials, that's where the Gibbets were in the olden days in the north of England-------that's where the classic saying came from-------SAVE US O LORD, FROM HULL , HELL AND HALIFAX,
Well, somebody has to try and edificate the colonials----but not tonight-----God bless you all my friends, I'll confound you all with more nonsense tomorrow, MYGGWY.J.

See in this mornings telegraph you can buy a complete scale model kit for the 1,000 mph "Bloodhound" . It consists of over 3,000 parts. They did not publish a price list, but I don't suppose it will be cheap, at a guess I would say just a few thousand.
Record attempts are never cheap and always run over budget anyway, though Richard Noble is a past master at fund raising.
I well remember him coming to a K7 dinner at the WINDERMERE club and asking the members for backing, I asked him how fast he had ever driven, he said " probably a little over 80"!. Needless to say they gave him their blessings.
Ah well, another day , another dollar.

OK, so nobody interested at all in a land speed car, don't blame you really, I got my mate Fish to stick £20 in the begging bowl at the F.O.S. When they showed the project in 2013, it's a couple of years behind schedule, but to be fair, what record attempt was ever on time except WARBY .

Had another interesting chat with Mark on FaceTime today, told me about this amazing old guy who he's friends with-------reckons he's well into his 80/s and packs his truck, and hooks his boat on the back each June and heads up to Alaska for the summer. Done it for the last 23 years.
He apparently invented "THUNDERBOLT" ignition so I presume he worked at Mercury or he sold it to C.K. Claims in all the years he's been traveling to Alaska, he never visited the same place twice, he now takes someone to help with the driving and launching of the boat, Mark reckons the launching system on his TRAILOR is something to behold.
I got his name right here, but I wonder if any of you out there know who I'm talking about by that description, what about it Stavros, Odell, Bakos, Rich, or you Pilgrim, got any idea who he might be?
Had another good day in the shop, but I feel like you guys ain't getting value for money somehow, maybe do better tomorrow to try and get your attention , meanwhile, MYGGWY.J.

I wonder if he still has a Merc with a distributor or a Merc at all?

My best guess is Floyd Minks -

Nope, both BERNIE and Pilgrim ain't even close, come on fellas,show a little interest here, this guy's one of us------but still has ambition-------he never lost it!

O.k. BERNIE , I'll own up to it------I lied to you !!! But only a bit, the guy my son Mark talked so well of he knows as ROBERT MINKS, not only that, you got it in one, so all that was left was for me to lie through my eye teeth-------just playing the "human poker game that's life", don't think too badly of me and I'll apologise sincerely.

Maybe you can enlighten us here on how he worked his " Thunderbolt Ignition in to C.K.
Is it Floyd or Robert?
Thanks for taking part in the game anyway BERNIE.

Always thought his name was Floyd - but that was 50 years ago and I might be wrong? Don't know the whole story, but seems I remember his first version of it he carried around in a five gallon bucket, then began the minituratization (sp?) of the system. First system might have been a 2 cylinder version only.
Sideline story - two of the electrical guys at the St. Cloud FL Electrical Division were named Dick Tracy and Joe Barefoot. Old story goes when they went someplace and checked into a motel, gave their names, the clerk says "Yeah right", now what are your real names?

[QUOTE=jackiewilson;2719439]OK, so nobody interested at all in a land speed car, don't blame you really, I got my mate Fish to stick £20 in the begging bowl at the F.O.S. When they showed the project in 2013, it's a couple of years behind schedule, but to be fair, what record attempt was ever on time except WARBY .

Jackie, the Bloodhound job is active quite close to me, and having had the "guided tour" (along with many others.. I'm not that special) I can assure you your 20 British Pounds was put to good use.....not to sure which bit mind...........but somewhere inside on the "thingy" I'm sure.
The boys down there waste nothing and are always mindful of where the funding comes from and behave accordingly......

You may know the COSWORTH motor has been done away with.. not too sure of the reason political or technical for certain..before you ask I already
did and it's gone back to the factory..

A fellow visitor asked the tour guide feller what kind of safety features were in place to protect the pilote in the event of a high speed shunt......the guy
sort of coughed some and looked down at his feet a spell and without raising his head told us that some things it was impossible to plan or even design
for.....I'm pretty sure most of us got the gist of that one....................

Some folks are I'm sure, are born different...then there is people like myself who get scared wearing thick socks??......Phill.

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OK, so nobody interested at all in a land speed car, don't blame you really, I got my mate Fish to stick £20 in the begging bowl at the F.O.S. When they showed the project in 2013, it's a couple of years behind schedule, but to be fair, what record attempt was ever on time except WARBY .

Jackie, the Bloodhound job is active quite close to me, and having had the "guided tour" (along with many others.. I'm not that special) I can assure you your 20 British Pounds was put to good use.....not to sure which bit mind...........but somewhere inside on the "thingy" I'm sure.
The boys down there waste nothing and are always mindful of where the funding comes from and behave accordingly......

You may know the COSWORTH motor has been done away with.. not too sure of the reason political or technical for certain..before you ask I already
did and it's gone back to the factory..

A fellow visitor asked the tour guide feller what kind of safety features were in place to protect the pilote in the event of a high speed shunt......the guy
sort of coughed some and looked down at his feet a spell and without raising his head told us that some things it was impossible to plan or even design
for.....I'm pretty sure most of us got the gist of that one....................

Some folks are I'm sure, are born different...then there is people like myself who get scared wearing thick socks??......Phill.

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Heard tell they replaced the Cosworth with a Jaguar, sounds like a bit of Richard Nobles string pulling , let's be honest , he's a master at it.

What makes you think any one who ever ran a boat is different from anybody else . Do you think those guys who rush out to be first out to the fishing grounds with a dozen rods and pair of 300 Verados feel much different to the dad Who pulls his kid up onto a pair of skis for the first time in a 15' boat with a 50 hp MERJONRUDE on its bum.
Its a bug, a virus, a sickness, a disease and it's addictive and affects you for the rest of your life, they call it simply POWERBOATING,

IF you want to get into safety cells, you need look no further than the problems WARBY'S having with the UIM and capsules. Go to the "world water speed record attempt" thread.
Me, being a simple, common sense sort of person, would have thought the number one person in the world to know ANYTHING AT ALL about capsules capable of 150mph + ( which is the starting point for these things) would be a certain Kenneth WARBY ---------do the said mentioned UIM ask this person for guidance and advice on which direction they should be travelling-----------not so bloody likely! WE IN OUR WISDOM WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO,!
They probably go to work on 150 mph bikes------and sit at 150mph desks all day dreaming up ways of justifying their existance which is infinitely harder than building a 150 mph safety cell.

most of the UIM commisioners know very little about boating and myself would not pay them in penny washers-------most of 'em are a waste of a good skin.

Anybody care to comment?

Racers

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Always thought his name was Floyd - but that was 50 years ago and I might be wrong? Don't know the whole story, but seems I remember his first version of it he carried around in a five gallon bucket, then began the minituratization (sp?) of the system. First system might have been a 2 cylinder version only.
Sideline story - two of the electrical guys at the St. Cloud FL Electrical Division were named Dick Tracy and Joe Barefoot. Old story goes when they went someplace and checked into a motel, gave their names, the clerk says "Yeah right", now what are your real names?

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Bernie, had a long talk on FaceTime with Mark again today, he got Floyd Minks name wrong calling him ROBERT -------he first did some prop work for Floyd when he was with Rolla in Switzerland nearly 20 years ago.
He explained the boat is a RIB, near 40' he reckons with a single Arneson drive.
Reckon he may have known Howard Arneson, who is a friend of Mark and Phil Rolla anyways !!!

Upshot of all this BERNIE is that Floyd Minks is exactly what this thread is all about "Tricks that racers get up to when they retire" so will try and get him to tell us what he used to get up to in Fon Du lac. Mark says you can tell he's a retired engineer simply by listening to him talk.

As usual it's damn near falling asleep time, eyelids are drooping, church clock is striking midnight, truce for now-----we'll start all over again tomorrow , MYGGWY.J.

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Racers

Bernie, had a long talk on FaceTime with Mark again today, he got Floyd Minks name wrong calling him ROBERT -------he first did some prop work for Floyd when he was with Rolla in Switzerland nearly 20 years ago.
He explained the boat is a RIB, near 40' he reckons with a single Arneson drive.
Reckon he may have known Howard Arneson, who is a friend of Mark and Phil Rolla anyways !!!

Upshot of all this BERNIE is that Floyd Minks is exactly what this thread is all about "Tricks that racers get up to when they retire" so will try and get him to tell us what he used to get up to in Fon Du lac. Mark says you can tell he's a retired engineer simply by listening to him talk.

As usual it's damn near falling asleep time, eyelids are drooping, church clock is striking midnight, truce for now-----we'll start all over again tomorrow , MYGGWY.J.

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Retired Engineers: Quick Story. ​I was working at the Lake one night about 1999 - my phone rings, it's the owner of a large Stamas powerboat with a pair of big Mercs - Stamas had given him my cell phone number. The guy is a retired aerospace engineer, and every time anything with the engines hiccupped, he was on the phone to Stamas, and they gave him my cell phone number. Alex (Charles Alexander, who was at Lake X working on the Dueces High engine) was sitting in the office listening to my conversation. After the conversation ended, I looked at him and said "No reflection on you sir, but these damn retired engineers are a real pain in the ass! He had a good chuckle over that.

Jaguar Indian
Cosworth American
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Jaguar Indian
Cosworth American
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Alas no Pilgrim, not any more.
Jaguar wholly Indian owned.
Land / Range Rover Indian owned.
BMW BMW owned [German]
MG wholly Chinese owned.

I have to take ten steps back and ask myself "who the hell won what in 39/46"
The colonials fared no better Just look at Detroit.

I visit Florida fairly regularly and have done since 1969---------The difference on the U S. car scene is almost as bad as England.
Skyline is mostly Chinese, Japanese,Vietnamese, Korean, following close behind come the Germans a spattering of French, Spanish and English .
I think i saw a couple of the old well remembered American Marques, but like most of the English makes they are dead and buried.

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Jaguar Indian
Cosworth American
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Alas no Pilgrim, not any more.
Jaguar wholly Indian owned.
Land / Range Rover Indian owned.
Rolls Royce. BMW owned [German]
MG wholly Chinese owned.
Cosworth, VEE-DUB owned.

I have to take ten steps back and ask myself "who the hell won what in 39/46"
The colonials fared no better Just look at Detroit.

I visit Florida fairly regularly and have done since 1969---------The difference on the U S. car scene is almost as bad as England.
Skyline is mostly Chinese, Japanese,Vietnamese, Korean, following close behind come the Germans a spattering of French, Spanish and English .
I think i saw a couple of the old well remembered American Marques, but like most of the English makes they are dead and buried.

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Retired Engineers: Quick Story. ​I was working at the Lake one night about 1999 - my phone rings, it's the owner of a large Stamas powerboat with a pair of big Mercs - Stamas had given him my cell phone number. The guy is a retired aerospace engineer, and every time anything with the engines hiccupped, he was on the phone to Stamas, and they gave him my cell phone number. Alex (Charles Alexander, who was at Lake X working on the Dueces High engine) was sitting in the office listening to my conversation. After the conversation ended, I looked at him and said "No reflection on you sir, but these damn retired engineers are a real pain in the ass! He had a good chuckle over that.

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Keep 'em coming Bernie-------been praying for someone like you to come along and revive this thread.
Alex was always one of my favourite Mercury people, he even came to visit Joe and me in the Needles hospital, he tried hard not to crack out laughing when he saw us both plastered up to our eyeballs, Is he still with us ?.
The other guy Mark got mixed up with [namewise] was Robert Noyce, another old retired engineer who is well into boating.
Did you ever get tied up in the original V6 development Bernie ? Mark and i bought it with the intention of putting it on the back of a missile or whatever Cadillac has kicking about in his back yard.
The motor spins free and theres gotta be enough parts skulling around to put the damn thing together. Will give Rich or Roger a nudge , been trying to save them for the Cosworth project which Mark is finally talking about.
Penske was a great friend of Duckworths and must know where there's some DFV bits lurking about.
The centrifugal clutch will be difficult but is not beyond the wit of man.
There's a light at the end of the tunnel on Marks superboat, he's hoping to launch it in april/may, then he'll have time to do some of the other things we have in mind. He's been on it four years now.

By the way Rich and Roger, the Riva Rudy is up for sale if you know anyone who might take a nibble [ or maybe a whole bite], he needs the room to do the cosworth.
Any old engineers who want to get involved in bringing the V6 back to life, it will all happen in Stuart, FL. feel free to drop by, make yourself known, Mark lives there most hours of the day seven days a week, though he tells me once the boats done he's selling the house and moving in with the three kids alternate weeks and living on the boat. Lunchtime gotta go, talk later.

I didn't have much envolvment in the first V6 - I was in Mercury manufacturing around that time frame, I remember a fellow bringing secret crankshafts into our plant to get them broached, splined, and heat treated, I was Chief Inspector then and one of my layout guys would blue up the splined end and mark where the first tooth was to be cut. We also made the con rods, when production forging dies were being produced by an outside source, they would lead or plaster cast a rod from the un-heat treated dies and then we would measure everything - then tooling and engineering would approve/disapprove the sample and away we would go making thousands of them. I was in charge of gauging things like the size,straightness, bore roundness, parallelism, surface finish, and hardness of the finished rod. I was racing stock outboard hydros during this time period - that consumed my weekends and most weeknights - no factory support for stock racers, even though it was the largest segment of APBA at the time. I was one of the "middle of the pack" racers usually, the APBA Region 7 was a hotbed of stock racing - had the Berghauers, Hank Menzies, Wil Pergande, Brian Berger, the Stippich brothers - tough competitors with more money than I had.

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I didn't have much envolvment in the first V6 - I was in Mercury manufacturing around that time frame, I remember a fellow bringing secret crankshafts into our plant to get them broached, splined, and heat treated, I was Chief Inspector then and one of my layout guys would blue up the splined end and mark where the first tooth was to be cut. We also made the con rods, when production forging dies were being produced by an outside source, they would lead or plaster cast a rod from the un-heat treated dies and then we would measure everything - then tooling and engineering would approve/disapprove the sample and away we would go making thousands of them. I was in charge of gauging things like the size,straightness, bore roundness, parallelism, surface finish, and hardness of the finished rod. I was racing stock outboard hydros during this time period - that consumed my weekends and most weeknights - no factory support for stock racers, even though it was the largest segment of APBA at the time. I was one of the "middle of the pack" racers usually, the APBA Region 7 was a hotbed of stock racing - had the Berghauers, Hank Menzies, Wil Pergande, Brian Berger, the Stippich brothers - tough competitors with more money than I had.

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First time I ever set foot on US soil was in Chicago Ill, drove up to Fon-du-Lac, then up to Oshkosh , was with Don Ross. Gave Renato a lift up to the best western motel and managed to get arrested on the way up there in a snowstorm.
I was running a steady 65 doing nobody any harm, I thought the flashing lights were an ambulance trying to get by-----turned out it was a really pissed off highway patrol officer-----his opening words were, " Hey, you with the big lead foot, get outa the car"

Narrated the tale of our arrest and four hours in Oshbergs pokey last night but must have overrun the allotted time, could not post it and when I hit the "RESTORE CONTENT" button it showed less than 25% of what I'd written---------BUMMER.
IT's done that to me before.
Now, I have to sign in with my new password EVERY TIME, I use the site.
From here on in you'll be getting short and sweet messages, was well turned midnight before I logged off, hate wasting my time.
Im sure most of you have heard the tale before, but if I don't have much to say sometime soon I may get back to it.

Do not mess with the French Police, they are even harder than the Chinese ------terminate the buggers, saves money, court time, and in this day and age is probably the way to go.

Secret of being a good father is to make sure your kids know you love them!!
Secret of being a Great dad is to make sure each of your kids knows you love him or her Most!

Thats a Wilsonism I got to thinking about in the shop today, just thought I'd share it with you.

All last weeks efforts came together in a rush, 6coats of varnish on four of the spalted beech items, but the last piece was a dog eared, worm eaten lump of Holly but beautifully marked, played with it for a couple of days and just knew that nothing but beeswax would do for the finish. I called it "BOO" after one of my daughters, maybe you can figure it out------will do phoggie for you-----see what you think.

Went to see my doctor today, good news is I'm in good shape, bad news is, because I had 3 strokes in under 6 weeks I get an automatic 3 month ban. As you can imagine that went down like a turd in a punchbowl and I have to inform my insurance company. On top of that I have to appear before the DVLC TO TELL THEM WHY I SHOULD BE DRIVING AT 83.
So at the best the insurance company will put the premium up into outer atmosphere -------at worst, there will be no chance of getting a licence.
Medical insurance for travel to the USA last year cost well over $3,000, they won't even consider it this year at any price.
i am fit to use machinery in the workshop and I can fly (in a plane of course).
If any one out there got an ageing nag, pony and trap, decrepit donkey or maybe a Sinclair C 5 going begging feel free to give me a call.
All in all I've had better days and better tidings but I'm still here, middlin health with all my marbles, lost a bit of top speed but can still trundle along and bore the crap OUTA the colonials on line, don't suppose Lifes that bad after all. MYGGWY.J.

Jackie try enrolling in Obamacare...We give it to damn near anybody who doesn't pay taxes in the USA...Of course most of them live here, but I don't think residency matters...and if you get sick tell immigration you snuck in illegally. With that status you get first class treatment and accomodations in our best hospitals.

You can never afford to lose your sense of humour, there i was feeling all washed up and useless when one of my old mates sent me this in the morning mail -----it goes---

"PERHAPS THE MOST PROFOUND PHILOSOPHY I HAVE HEARD IN RECENT TIMES GOES"

LIFE IS LIKE A DICK-----SIMPLE, RELAXED AND HANGING FREE---

"IT'S WOMEN WHO MAKE IT HARD"

Anyone out there notice S&F got me back in france for the last post ------ but back in england for the penultimate, amazing how their minds must work------i know I'm a clever old sod, but, even i can't be in two places at the same time.
Bernie, will answer your last post again, hoping S&F don't wipe it before it gets printed.
Will take a phoggie of the stuff i wasted my time on last week.
Rich ,I'm starting your CBA trophy today while i still got the time, i keep getting these gee up calls.

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Heres the piccies I promised you of the tat I turned out last week.
Most of these came from the wood pile which I'm over half way through burning already.
It was made up mostly of spalted beech with beautiful figuring in damn near every chunk .
Could be I might live to regret going to the bother of carving items if we run out of firewood.
Course even carved timber still burns well.

Hi Jackie

Here's you first Rotary for the new year
http://liquidpiston.com/technology/how-it-works/

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Hi Jackie

Here's you first Rotary for the new year
http://liquidpiston.com/technology/how-it-works/

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If anyone thought the Wankel had heat rejection problems with the rotor, this one is FAR more difficult and will be the demise of this concept.

Hi John
yes I looked at that surface area and thought mmmm
Maybe it will work with non cooled ceramics and only as a diesel?
Cheers

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If anyone thought the Wankel had heat rejection problems with the rotor, this one is FAR more difficult and will be the demise of this concept.

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Johnno, my new year resolution is to be nice to my fellow men, particularly the ones I have a tendency to disagree with on the odd occasions.
But, the final statement in liquid Pistons blurb. THIS IS NOT A WANKEL,! What a load of tosh, just because the fox hides in the hen house, it don't make it a chicken!
We both know we could save them years of research, (like a hundred years , again).
Lots of investors dollars, (like millions, again).
Loads of heartbroken engineers (again), by simply telling them -------THE BLOODY THING IS FATALLY FLAWED, ALWAYS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE.
Demise of this concept started a hundred years ago when old man Wankel started pulling all your chains, Cosmotheric wankoid reaction is just one of the things the old boy never mentioned, just his idea of fun with optimistic engineers with ambition.
Funny how there's always another engineer somewhere willing to try the unsolvable problem.

​WANKEL!

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Hi John
yes I looked at that surface area and thought mmmm
Maybe it will work with non cooled ceramics and only as a diesel?
Cheers

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There you two go again, both as smart as Einstein and Newton, I would have thought you would have enough savvy to leave that particular piece of kit well alone!

So your not investing in it then Jackie? Lol