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If I was in your situation I would look at something a little bigger, at least a .380 or .38. There are a lot of people out there carrying much bigger guns than what you are looking at. With a good holster an average size guy should be able to conceal a subcompact or compact semi auto pretty easy. If you find that you need a more specialized gun make that your next one, one gun is never enough.
Al, ya gotta "bite the bullet"..(pun intended!):D, and simply get the "card out", go into debt, and start buying, as no way ya gonna stop at one!:eek::p I don't know anyone with only one.:D
Anyway, been searching the best CCW. If I had the need a CCW..(retired, stopped the cross country bike rides, getting old), if away from the house, I would carry the following..don't get carried away how .."cute it looks"..(I hate the looks of a hammerless), but what ya want is simple function. Now if ya looking for home protection, like a few here have, like me, a simple Mossberg 12g, Scattergun, pistol grip, 18" barrel. Cabela's, about $250. Anyway, if I did a on the road CCW weapon..this be it...
The Smith and Wesson 638 Airweight revolver. This diminutive revolver is, as the name implies, very light but sports 5 rounds of 38 special +p ammo that will generally take care of business for any civilian needs. Fun to shoot and amazingly controllable and accurate, the little Smith revolver tucks away all day long in a Fobus Ankle holster without me hardly noticing it's there.
And a little more me. Try out a velcro gripped, nylon stretchy, "ankle holster". Feels weird at first, but once ya get used to it, ya feel naked without it. Needed, just whip up the levi pants leg, quick grab, and let loose. :eek:
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Should add a little more on that post. Any carry, the upper body, will need some clothing. Its 90° out?...well, even shirtless, ya still gonna be in pants. And if too hot long pants, ankle holster, get used to the "cargo shorts"..have had people here show me, what looked like zip in the cargo pockets, say, .."see what I just bought?" Then whips a piece out, and not a cell phone, as a 911 call, never be as fast as some slug, 1200 FPS..!:eek:;):D:thumbsup:
I second not getting the Kel Tec as your primary pistol. Light weight revolvers, look at S&W air weight and Taurus makes light weight revolvers too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viper GTs
A rifle for home defense, get a shotgun. Like a Mossberg 500 with the short barrel.
Here are my equalizers,
Glock 23 with a Ghost "rocket" trigger spring, extended slide release, +2 mag extension, Meprolight tritium sights, Lone Wolf threaded SS barrel that I painted with Duracoat durabake and a LaserMax Saber laser. I like the dovetail the LaserMax adds. It improves the handling.
The Rem 1100 12ga. was my fathers. I cut the barrel to 21" honed the last 2" of barrel to .010 smaller than cly., drilled 7 holes on each side at the front of the barrel, added the pistol grip stock, added a mag extension, painted the barrel and receiver with Duracoat durabake, painted the forearm and added the front grip. I'm not sure I'm gonna keep the front grip. Still need to install the sights.
I cut the barrel to 21" because advice I got from a cop. He told me the 1100 handles better with a 21" barrel than an 18" barrel.
410's with a tripple flat slug. It's a public defender model which is more concealable it has a shorter cylinder and barrel so, I can't run mags thru it but, with the tripple slug load you really don't need mags. Good home defense gun that won't blow holes thru the walls. My other home defense gun is a Mossberg SPX tactical auto loaded with 00.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy
For my my money if you're going 22 pistol you should go Ruger MK II bull barrel. I personally wouldn't take a Kel-Tek for free!
Dave, I will stand solid behind a "Taurus" for one reason. As a "lifetime guarantee", them. (Still, I don't know?) I bought my 9shot, .22 wheel, WAY back in the early 90's. Sucker never did have any straight aim, without the rear site clicked all the way right, at 50 feet. Then the plant shut down, me pensioned out, moved the west coast, and TWO YEARS AGO, figure 15 YEARS later, I sent them a email. Sucker has never shot straight. They said.."Send it back..(FL), . packed it, sent Registered, USPS, with the receipt. 3 weeks later, its at my door, with a "range target included", at 50 feet. Spot on, note on it said..'she's back in shape"..manufacture mess up". ;)
Cost zip but postage there, they paid it back to me...:thumbsup:
Well... I don't know. If I have to see by the flash, sobeit. Depending on where I am and what I am packing... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robby321
pop....pop.pop.... popopopopop! :)
AAAAAAHA!..heres the rub there..."what if two more outside", waiting?, after sending in the dumbazz?:eek::eek::eek::eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy
All lights on around the complex (on all 6 corners and then some.. one switch) and load number 2 of 4 clips. Or grab number 2 gun... or 3.... or 4. I live out in the country so I can be armed in a matter of seconds depending on where I am in the houseyenda. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Robby321
Viper GTs here's a review of a S&W Air Weight revolver.
http://www.christiangunowner.com/smithandwesson638.html
http://www.christiangunowner.com/bes...-handguns.html
Also, here is a pair of jeans made for concealed carry. There are pockets inside the jeans for concealed carry.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/511-74002.html
HA!.."gotya there!":D;):thumbsup: Me too:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Forkin' Crazy
My dog NEVER lets anyone near, without a "woof", her in or out..don't even have some "doorbell"..any "silent steps, near me", dog says ..."WOOF!".. ( we got zero noise me)..shes outside now, woofing at the old farts, simply going for a walk!..Probably saying, ''Theres that dumb azz dog again, wanting another free "cookie"..:p
And the damn old fart Possum, that goes back and forth, all nite, behind the shop, setting off the "motion lights", well, its cool. Gotta tell ya a quick story here. Park my Astro van in the back, under a tarp 10x20 canopy. Usual leave the drivers door window, half open. One nite, I get up to take a whiz, 4am, see the damn lights on the van. Grab the "normal, as what, no clue. Damn lights on, the "ding, ding, ding", buzzer coming out the ride. Seen many times, the .."neighbors cats paws", on the windshield. Zero threat to me now, open the door, shut off the lights, and the best I could come with, as the sucker got inside the van window, sniffed the "doggy cookies" inside, and the light switch, is way the left side, top the dash, and best I can see, a "paw", hit the switch on, back out the window!
Buy a gun already.................jeeze.:rolleyes:
I have a 40 Cal S&W Sigma. Composite made with a full double stacked clip. S&W has promos going on where you get a $50 rebate or 2 more clips if you send in the rebate from when you purchase the gun. I like it a lot. The Sigma series is available in a few different sizes. I got an inside waiste band holster for it to carry it. Those are like $15 on Ebay.
Then again I did shoot a S&W 500 revolver a few months back, not that you could hide it, but it was fun-that thing is a damn hand cannon :D
I got a Sigma too,,, I hate the trigger pull, is there anything that can be done to solve the hard trigger??
My Favortie is a built Springfield Armory 1911 45.,,,, sweet, sweet shooting firearm.
When I was in Alaska I saw the 500 S&W in an outfitters shop, it had a bright orange handle... when asked why orange, the outfitter said, "It's so you can find the damn thing once you shoot it"...... Figgers..
RB
I'm not a big fan of the lack of a saftey on the Sigma, but I do like the grip, balance and how the pistol fits in my hand.
I have a cell phone video on my facebook page of me shooting the S&W 500, we couldn't get a wide enough lens to find all the pieces of the pumpkin that got destroyed, LOL.
Thats a nice piece...I will investigate further...Thanks...AlQuote:
Originally Posted by CDave
Yea, LOL!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mirage243
I haven't read threw this entire thread BUT if your looking for a 1911 I would reccommend a Wilson Combat....a little pricy but great guns....for a little less you could go with a Ed Brown or a Les Baer....just my .02 cents worth. Good luck !!
Chris
Viper That 22 you posted is a hoot for carry conceal. Seriousely take a look at the Cobra Derringer I posted (well within your price range) or they also make a very nice 38 spcl revolver light weight that falls with in your price range as well. Side by side to the S&W 442 & 638 a bigger bang for the buck. if in fact money is the objective.
http://www.cobrafirearms.net/product-shadow.asp#
No $hit! I bought another one while this debate has gone on. Big gun show next weekend that'll consume a bunch of allocated gun Benji's I've hoarded away.Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage243
Big Sis is probably reading this and copying down IP addresses.......
Who cares...I sure don't...(your azz is SO, Gov collected, over the years, it aint funny. They want my legal, doing zip guns? (Whoops, thats an old Chitown thought..ZIP GUNS!..anyone remember them?) Anyway, when they comes for yer guns, hate to say it, but.."its time"...to "fire back". And "they" can have ALL my guns, just don't take my Lathe, and Mill, my steel ..give me 2 hours, and I'm back in shape...:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by JR IN JAX
Ya wanna see some real, homemade, stuff, its SO simple. Back when I was a kid, did a road trip to SoCal, from Illinois, at maybe 12/13? years old. 1962/3. The "Hula Hoop" then was just released there first, and for sure took off. Came back home with one, and the Midwest, not marketed there yet. I was the "hit of the kids!" BUT..at 14, we cut it open, straightened it out, slit the back end up a good 10 inches, shoved in an M80 fire cracker, stuffed the rear in the dirt, bricks to hold the tube level, roll a "Cats Eye, marble in the front", and put out a window, the Grammar school, a 1/2 block away! Never did find out, then, who or how, but think the "limitations" to bust me, are pretty well over, as 46 years ago.
And ya got a neighbor in yer face? Piss ya off?. .simple load up a 2 liter plastic soda bottle, dry ice, super glue the cap, toss, wait 2 hours.:eek:
Wanna have fun with 2 liter soda bottles? Take the cap off, drill it out for a "rubber tire valve stem". Super glue it to the cap. Load it to 100 pounds air, a compressor..(it will hold it)...set the puppy out in the yard..30 foot away, a decent pellet gun, will have that sucker 50 foot in the air!
And we do "pellet gun shoots", here, Wed nites, gearheads shop, 36x60,..(building a "box now, start doing the .22's soon") We do not do simple targets, but "tape a prize", there...simple 4th July.."poopers", that kids would toss the ground. Ya get a "BANG"?, ya win!:eek::p;):D:thumbsup:...lotta fun:thumbsup:
Janet Incompetano.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR IN JAX
She couldn't find her a$$ with both hands and a mirror. :nonod:
My dog has a flame throwerQuote:
Originally Posted by Hydrophobic guy
Yesterday while blowing money in Cabela's, I saw a ad in a gun magazine, while impatiently waiting for the clerk to remember how to operate the friggin' cash register,,,about a pistol,,, .38 / .357 cal.
It wuz a revolver, med sized, stub nosed 2"ish barrel,, but what caught my attention was the flat sided cylinder,,almost square,,,, and then I noticed the barrel was on the BOTTOM ,,, the thing fired off the BOTTOM of the cylinder, not the top as 'normel' revolvers..... WTH wuz the reasoning behind the upside down barrel ? ?
RB
F*ck that bitch.:reddevil:Quote:
Originally Posted by JR IN JAX
Hey Robby, I believe you may be the T-REX of firearms!!!! AlQuote:
Originally Posted by Robby321
I've seen those used in pistol competitions. I believe it was to change the recoil characteristics. More of a straight back recoil giving you faster recovery from shot to shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by RB in NM
Or was it this? http://chiappafirearms.com/product/729
...I want a flame thrower
ok :):)Quote:
Originally Posted by modvp22
sign me up. Walmart is out of themQuote:
Originally Posted by specboatops
If you want to see the biggest homemade explosion ever, just fill a SMALL balloon with an extremely Oxygen rich mixture from you Oxy-acet torch. The best way to set them off is to roll it up in a sheet of newspaper and light the far end of it. You want to be at least a hundred feet from it before it goes and 300 feet from the nearest glass window. At one hundred feet it will hit you like a volleyball in the chest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viper GTs
Be careful of static electricity or any other source of ignition if you want to live.....
Not that I want anyone to try this........Big Sis...
Yep, we used to do that at work, 3/11 shift, bored. Shot red, good shot green, in a pint milk carton. Stuff a paper towel in it, light + run! Like a massive m80! One day a dude does a gallon plastic milk. Freaking BOMB....(we got in a little trouble for that one!):eek::rolleyes::p:DQuote:
Originally Posted by JR IN JAX
The best mixture is obtained by lighting the torch and adding too much oxygen to the flame until it is a sharp cone/pale blue and then tap the tip onto something metal to make it go out. Let it blow for a few seconds to cool down and then slide the balloon over the tip and let it inflate. Getting the right mixture makes it ten times more powerful. If you accidentally were to detonate it they would not find much of you left....Quote:
Originally Posted by Robby321
:)Didnt think this would ever turn into a Bomb making, tough guy, gun totin', I'z gonna kill youz with my 45 or 12 gauge thread!!:nonod::eek::cheers: