My dad passed away a year ago next month and I'm finally getting able to go through some of his pictures this is just a test to make sure I'm scanning them correctly.
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My dad passed away a year ago next month and I'm finally getting able to go through some of his pictures this is just a test to make sure I'm scanning them correctly.
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@oldschoolltv
So sorry to hear that.
Looks like a 1975 Johnson 50 2 cylinder looper.
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A few you may recognize:)
Jeff Titus, Ron and I raced each other and our brothers raced each other, good times
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More Stinger V4 stuff..Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
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Unique combination..!!
#35 Barry Woods/Bob Larson in a SEEBOLD/Evinrude F1-V8.
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THE one and ONLY time an OMC V8 found itself aboard a SEEBOLD hull!
And it was short lived & maybe 1 time
If I remember correct the transom broke on the Seebold boat.
Barry also raced a CCC on a Seebold when the engines first came out. I think Barry and Bill were good friends. Bill used to let Barry work on his boat at his shop during the week of the St. Louis race.
Correct..they did a lot of business together. If I remember correct Barry purchased the Seebold used from someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Poole ModVP
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Originally Posted by lars strom
Seebold transoms were always an issue. Merc Hi Perf had tie rod kits that bolted the clamp bracket pivot tube and to the hull combing boards on every V6 Seebold. These were not on Barry's Seebold so a transom failure with an OMC V8 is no surprise.
Lakeland, Florida 1989.
Interesting sponsor for Ben.:cheers:
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Yeah. Budweiser and boat racing were exclusively Bernie Little's territory. Bernie was a huge distributor for Budweiser but was not corporate . There were specific events in Europe where Seebold ran with Budweiser livery but never in the USA. I believe his Bud Light connection wasn't directly connected to corporate either? Robertson had another sponsor which was also peculiar. IBM ....never could figure that one out? Series sponsorship in USA was much harder to get than in Europe. Boat racing in the USA is rapidly morphing into something entirely different now (Lake Of The Ozarks Shootout). We used to call them kilo events (USA). Circle course racing is nearly extinct.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Ben and me at Lake of the Ozarks.:cheers:
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Lots of power long time ago
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Miami 1973. Intro of the rotary engine. Note no fuel filler caps and the "Johnson" vertical. Later changed to horizontal. These same boats went from Miami to Parker Az. race the following weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
191 was Jimbo. 197? Sanders? After Parker, where were these boats stored? Molinaris? Were they transported to Parker with the engines on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
197 was Tommy Posey. Boats were both Scotti's, yes, they were trailered from Waukegan, Ill. to Miami to Parker with the engines mounted. If I remember correctly, they were trailered back to Waukegan, Ill. had new engines mounted and were trailered to Galveston, Tx a month later.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
They then returned to Waukegan, got new engines and then trailered to Provo Utah. ThisAttachment 545005 is the winer of Provo, Tommy Posey.
This is the return from Galveston. Attachment 545006
The OMC racing rotary.
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1974
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Was there a plan by OMC leadership to have Scotti drive the rotary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
1977
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Would be a fun experiment to put a rotary on today's composite F1 tunnel boats. It was a small engine for the power it made and had a low center of gravity. The problem back in 1974 was the boat design limited the engine being trimmed up. Personally, I would have to bolt one on a 20' Stoker Mod-VP.
The biggest threat to the rotary program was OMC's V6 program,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
@WaterZebra @Rotary John
I think you are probably right on that. Lets see what Rotary John says.
I believe I said before, the rotary program was a "beat those black bastards" program till the V-6 was ready. OMC didn't have the resources to develop a complete line of rotary engines let alone tool them. The V-6 was relatively cheap, as it was 2 more pistons on a V-4. With 150ci vs 122ci for Merc, Charlie was confident he could continue to beat Merc. Add all this to the EPA emission threat of that time, the rotary didn't make good business or racing sense. I believe the real OMC rotary mistake was not continuing the oil cooled version for I/O application. That would have competed against Detroit iron where the rotary size and weight really showed an advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
How in the world did Charlie keep OMCs board of directors from having a fit about the rotary's R&D costs?! I/O idea would have been good but I/Os are all but dead now and we're back to big four stroke outboards. I watch the oyster growers in my area and everything is powered by big four stroke outboards. They can't afford the down time to split and pull out an I/O.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
Remember this was 50+ yrs. ago. OMC was making tons of money and sold everything they could produce by the first of the yr. Model yr- Aug thru June the following year. The rotary program was over in early '75. 150HP outboard were just being introduced. If you ever saw a 250 HP I/O rotary with no doghouse and a full wrap around rear seat that would outrun a 350 HP Chevy I/O you would understand my thoughts. We had a 210 HP oil cooled outboard running at the same time. It wasn't cost competitive to the 2-strokes, but very competitive to the Detroit Iron.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
Was the crankshaft cross bolt problem fixable? Whole new crankshaft perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
The original design was 2- two rotor cranks held together by a thru bolt made from ED180. The threads were even rolled hard by SKF research. To use the existing 2 rotor crank castings and to eliminate the need for ct. wt. 1-4 and 2-3 fired together. If you do a force diagram on this setup though its dynamically balanced, but it has a hell of a bending couple at the joint of the 2 cranks. It appeared there was a natural frequency of the bolt at 7000 RPM, exactly where we proped it to run. We tried all sorts of fixes from rubber bumpers on the bolt, silver plated conical washers with matching nut too eliminate first thread stress, to surrounding the entire bolt with silicone rubber. nothing really helped. As a matter on int6rest, the only time the bolt didn't break was in testing in FL; 10 hrs on a twin Molinari at lower rpm and Galveston in a cat2 hurricane where the speeds were extremely low; also no competition. After an ass chewing by Strang at Windemere, I redesigned the crank as 4 individual pieces held together by 3 turnbuckles: L-R threads. This also allowed a center hsg. bearing that 2 pc. crank didn't. It also reduced the weight by several pounds. Only got to run it a couple of times, but failure due to bolt breakage was GONE.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
5,000 MILE SOLO TRIP, MIAMI TO MIAMI 1959, "THE GREAT LOOP"
Ann Davison Billheimer planning to begin a 2 month 5,000 mile trip in a 17ft boat with two 18 horsepower Evinrude engines at the Santana Marina in Coconut Grove in June of 1959. Her plan was to cruise the inland waterway to New York, through part of the Great Lakes then down the Mississippi River and across the Gulf of Mexico. She actually departed in August and because of bad weather did not arrive back in Miami until 5 months later.
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One of my first “bigger”engines I had on my Glen L TNT that I built when I was a teenager. Great reliable engines.
1969 JUNEAU, ALASKA to KEY WEST, FLORIDA RECORD RUN
A recent post featured J.E. Hoag’s 1925 crossing of the United States with Evinrude power which was, of course, quite remarkable for that time. But perhaps even more adventuresome was Bill & Kathy Dimond’s 8,338 mile Juneau to Key West journey in 1969 which was the longest run attempted by outboards. As the ad points out, their journey went from arctic-cold fresh water to tropical-warm salt water. It included every kind of boating from rivers, to streams, to lakes, to canals - across the entire country- and down the Atlantic coast. Twin, loop-charged Evinrude Triumph 55’s powered their 20-foot Glastron V-201 for this remarkable adventure. While the outboards were stock, the boat hull was beefed-up for this punishing endurance adventure.
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