Outboard Top Speed World Record 200 mph Attempt

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08-20-2013, 01:09 PM
gen2flight

I would like to see the record fall but only to a naturally aspirated 2 stroke. Outboard record NOT Autoboard/turbo/4stroke. Do it with a 2 stroke!! If the record can fall using less displacement/cylinders then do that first. 200 is a huge #, beating the record will be an enourmous achievement if it is an apples to apples comparison.
If the record could fall to a V6 it would be amazing, gotta be a 2stroke powerhead for me.
08-20-2013, 01:24 PM
powerabout

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Originally Posted by CptAJ

Is it really an outboard at that point though?

I know a guy that had a cosworth V8 on a sterndrive that the UIM classed as an outboard....that pissed off Merc
08-20-2013, 02:39 PM
boston

I'm in.
08-20-2013, 02:56 PM
SCT

"I know a guy that had a cosworth V8 on a sterndrive that the UIM classed as an outboard....that pissed off Merc"

Jackie?
08-20-2013, 03:17 PM
powerabout

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Originally Posted by SCT

"I know a guy that had a cosworth V8 on a sterndrive that the UIM classed as an outboard....that pissed off Merc"

Jackie?

the one and only....
You know his son is rebuilding the boat, its clearly unique and has a McM 1 drive speedmaster, I think the 3 shaft version, very rare.
08-20-2013, 03:31 PM
CptAJ

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Originally Posted by gen2flight

I would like to see the record fall but only to a naturally aspirated 2 stroke. Outboard record NOT Autoboard/turbo/4stroke. Do it with a 2 stroke!! If the record can fall using less displacement/cylinders then do that first. 200 is a huge #, beating the record will be an enourmous achievement if it is an apples to apples comparison.
If the record could fall to a V6 it would be amazing, gotta be a 2stroke powerhead for me.

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Originally Posted by powerabout

I know a guy that had a cosworth V8 on a sterndrive that the UIM classed as an outboard....that pissed off Merc

This is the thing right here. It's a very fine line. Very subjective and highly emotional for some. For instance, I have no problem with turbos and 4strokes. But then taking a nascar engine and hanging it off the back of the boat... that's too much for me.

I'm not saying I'm right, mind you. Just shooting the **** about how blurry these definitions are and how much we take them to heart.
08-20-2013, 03:38 PM
powerabout

yep
A well known F1 driver way back in OZ put a chev on his CCC mid, went damn quick in a straight line as the class was unlimited outboard in those days.
Move forward a few years and use a short OMC V8 mid and an aluminium LS and you might have a contender...
08-20-2013, 05:40 PM
Hot Shot Merc

Thanks Gary.

As for the twin powerheads on one lower goes I personaly would like to see it done with a two stroke conventional outboard motor. Merc,OMC,Yamaha whatever. As long as its not a car motor turned on its side, similar to what all of us run and love then its a record worth breaking. Its obvious it has to be done with a fixeed engine and a transom mounted rutter steering like the previous record but either way its not up to us or me so I think we should let Todd follow through with his ideals and direction. Im sure he appreciates all the great wisdom and advise we have to offer but I think hes got a pretty good plan of attack here. Great ideas by all by the way. Myabe others should think about an attempt with these ideas? :cheers:
08-20-2013, 05:49 PM
Michael J Giesler

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Originally Posted by Instigator

Do a search on here of "Rumble on the River. An event we used to do on the Ohio River in Ky w/a similar theme.

Most people thought I was nuts when I started it and that none of the fast guys would show up w/o a large purse. They were wrong.
We had a GPS run (no rules or classes) and ended up w/3 or 4 classes for the drags to try and get everyone off the beach.
The best surprise was all the fast (as in active racers) guys that showed up for the classes w/no scales and near zero motor rules. Guys drove across the country, blew up tons of stuff, to try and win an award I printed w/my lap top.
Ends up, it is about bragging rights.

I think your idea is killer. The drags thing has been beat long/hard. Top end runs on the other hand........, lots of guys post lots of big #'s in different locations on different GPS's and radar guns.
Be BIG fun to have a central location w/common procedure for the guys to throw down.
We had two different Unlimited hydros run at the Rumble and as I recall, the highest ever GPS # was 128 by Dennis Vitolo in an STV RR w/no juice.

Liability and insurance would be the only issue I see. Your lake would be killer.
The liability issue is one of the reasons drags are so popular. Also why most are now running short course too as it keeps the speeds down.
I was committed to a full 1/4 mile for the drags when I started the Rumble but insurers wouldn't even talk to me unless I shortened it up to 700'.

I know one guy that was king of the rumble and one crazy ally driver that went 126 across some big a $$ waves
08-20-2013, 06:27 PM
RBT

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Originally Posted by Michael J Giesler

I know one guy that was king of the rumble and one crazy ally driver that went 126 across some big a $$ waves

i can't believe nobody got that on video!

gator, I thought Dixon went 132 there
08-20-2013, 06:41 PM
Capt.Insane-o

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Originally Posted by RBT

i can't believe nobody got that on video!

and he came back to the ramp asking for a bigger prop :)
08-20-2013, 06:51 PM
RBT

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Originally Posted by Capt.Insane-o

and he came back to the ramp asking for a bigger prop :)

Ya cus there were two STV's he had to beat.... Or try.
08-20-2013, 06:57 PM
Instigator

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Originally Posted by RBT

i can't believe nobody got that on video!

gator, I thought Dixon went 132 there

Yep, probably the most epic pass of all time.

I don't remember the 132 but the Rumbles all kinda run together for me.
08-20-2013, 07:00 PM
Capt.Insane-o

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Originally Posted by RBT

Ya cus there were two STV's he had to beat.... Or try.

Yea but.. I did'nt see anyone in an STV drive through the wake of a push barge at or very near full pedal either. ;)
08-20-2013, 07:00 PM
Michael J Giesler

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Originally Posted by Capt.Insane-o

and he came back to the ramp asking for a bigger prop :)

After they saw jeff run that hard with an ally they said your done rob your right an stv ran in the low 130's I think bob won king that year in drag racing my dad found the hot boat mag up north at our cabin he is going to bring it back home I thought I lost it rob there is video of the rumble on utube I think

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