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Rotary John,Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
I watched the video a few times and pretty sure this #34 boat with a Super Strangler V4 is a pickle fork. Then I checked the Entry list for Paris 1972 and boat 34 is Scotti.
This is from 1972 because 1973 Scotti raced a Super Strangler V6 in Paris.
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...0&d=1653497710
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...1&d=1653497720
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Originally Posted by lars strom
@Rotary John
Well..its not a true Pickle Fork when I look at this picture..Scotti cut out big holes in the front and kept the last part of the nose.
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...5&d=1653498777
No.
Lars what was my boat number in 1973
The Molinari driver in Boat# 22 is Giorgio - the younger brother of Renato Molinari (in boat# 25).
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I have seen the 1973 entry list from Paris 1973 but cant find it. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Schubert
This is more or less everything I have about the 1973 Paris 6 Hours.
https://svera.se/blogg/paris-6-hours...as-a-disaster/
My bad meant 1972. Lake X kid posted what I needed. This confirms the video is just 1970 & 72Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Interesting (to me). Looking at Lake X Kid`s 1972 Paris line up for class ON, I count 19 OMC`s and 10 Mercs. Seems to me like many independents ran OMC`s, maybe because the Super Stranglers & Johnson GP`s had already been available for awhile vs. the Merc C6-Twister II that was just being introduced (?).
@peterse90
Look at the SE class instead and all those Carniti's..:)
The year after 1973..OMC won in Paris with the new V6
BTW..its my Entry list for Paris 1972..:)
Paris 6 hours 1973 result..(First year for the V6)..
Top four is OMC..
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...3&d=1653578361
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...4&d=1586708689
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...5&d=1605638523
From my FB group page today.
Thanks to:
Jack Aylsworth
Group expert
The Golden Years - World’s Largest Manufacturer of Outboard Motors.
Many old timers will tell you that the 1960’s were Johnson’s best years. (I would personally add the 1970’s as well.) Johnson continued to lead Evinrude in sales with unit volume per year hovering around the 90,000 mark in the early 1960’s and more than doubling as the years progressed. All bolstered by the growing international markets and commercial motor sales.
Remarkable Growth – Johnson had started the 60’s decade becoming the first outboard brand to hit 2-million in production then pushed that record number to 4-million by 1973. Notably, that remarkable unit growth was accomplished with a very limited model lineup – just 7 models in 1960, growing to 13 models by 1973. Top horsepower increased from 75hp to 135hp.
World’s Largest Producer - While it took 31 years for Johnson to reach the one-million motor mark (1922 to 1953), and leading the industry at that point, it only took 20 years (1953 – 1973) to quadruple that sales number – an indication of just how fast, and large, the outboard market had grown during those years. As it did in 1953 when it hit one-million in sales, Johnson could would continue to hold the title of: World’s Largest Manufacturers of Outboard Motors.
**OMC Was Prospering Overall As Well **– 1966 proved to be a banner year with consolidated net sales of $212.4 million, breaking the $200 million mark for the first time. Sales of outboards, boats, stern drives, Lawn-Boy mowers, Cushman vehicles and snowmobiles all achieved record levels. Some 20 percent of sales were in product lines that did not exist at OMC before the 1960’s decade started.
Photo montage: 1960’s Johnson Catalog Covers
Aaah ........the memories of the 60s. I learned to ski behind a Johnson V75. The Golden Meteor 90 was huge (when you are 9 years old). The area where I grew up had a large population of Evinrude fishing motors (15hp or less) but the Johnsons were always the big motors in my local market. Lots of V60 and V75s around. Only the elite could afford the Golden Meteor. Kind of ironic that the 3 cylinder Triumph would end up making 75hp too.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
The 3 cyl ended up at 150hp, although a bit more capacityQuote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
Was Scotti the only builder who experimented with air slots?
Mod 50 was THE most underappreciated OPC class that existed. If anything could be salvaged from the BRP / OMC acquisition, surely the 3 cylinder model would somehow survived?
Well..I think Scotti was the only tunnel boat builder in Europe with way different built boats.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
Check this one out closely..
This one was getting ready for Paris 1973.
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...7&d=1585870681
Were all of OMCs racing engines (Strangler,Stinger,V6, etc) run with 20 inch mid sections? One thing I have noticed in all of the OMC racing threads is that OMC participated using a modest profile (no graphics) on the hulls, not like Mercury did (no "team" stuff). Only time OMC actually touted their racing was in their annual sales catalogs.
I'm looking at the transom and have concluded that if you acquired a Scotti hull and planned on running Merc power, forget it!
Not sure why you think so..??Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
Here is a Stinger GP V6 1975 with 12 inch mid section..
BTW..this engine was also the 1975 UIM ON class World Champion..
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...8&d=1504753648
The earlier Stinger, Stinger GP and Starflite SS, Super Strangler was 15 inch+..more like 16. (Never 20)
This is the Scotti-Craft painted and in Paris 1973. Scotti standing onboard.
Barry Woods was the US distributor for Scotti-Craft.
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...9&d=1653670124
Not sure where you are looking..Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
First picture is me 1975..Team Evinrude..the second picture is Cees Van Der Velden 1975..Team Johnson/Johnson Stinger GP V6.
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.No Fred Miles built a tunnel boat with slots he copied Scotty but found it had no advantage the slots were there to reduce lift.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
It must be me? The photo of the ON boat with V6 makes that 15 inch mid look tall..........Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Team Johnson..........Team Evinrude........yeah I get it. Show me something that had "OMC" on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
I don't ever recall seeing a Scotti running with Merc power? Woods and Hering had said good bye to the Merc camp and if Barry was the USA portal for Scotti, chances are none were sold intended for Merc power.
Hmm..No..OMC was never promoted in boat racing..same with Brunswick..was never on any Mercury race boats..!!Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
Well you are way off in the time frame..Scotti dead 1974..Hering left Mercury late 1976.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
The last new Scotti-Craft was the one he crashed in Paris 1974..
I have picture of Scotti's crash and you can clearly see Scotti on the concrete wall in Paris.
Very sad picture I am keeping to my self.
I cant remember any Scotti-Craft boats powered by anything else than Evinrude/Johnson.
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Originally Posted by lars strom
@WaterZebra
As I wrote..OMC was never promoted in boat racing..but I got plenty of support/money from the Swedish Evinrude distributor Huzells and you can clearly see Huzells next to my race #1.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...0&d=1653692972
Thanks Steverino..is it correct that David Burgess worked/built Miles Master before he stared his own boat building business..??Quote:
Originally Posted by STEVERINO
I first met Dave Burgess in 1969 at Bill Shakepeares boatyard i went to order a new racing boat Bill was away so Dave Burgess took me round Bills workshop he was working on the last wooden cat Bill built.In 1970 Fred Mlles had a motorcycle business and a marine business and asked Dave Burgess if he would work for him building raceboats so in 1970 Dave went to work for Fred Miles around 1974/1975 Dave bought the boatbuilding business off Fred and became burgess boats.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Thanks Steverino great info.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEVERINO
More OMC F1-V8 engine/power head parts are coming soon..!!
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...1&d=1653698664
A but different yet the overall height of the OMC short F1 engine is about the same as the Merc F1Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Very nice..wish it was mine.
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...2&d=1653744809
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...4&d=1653744820
Wow..lots of nice stuff here..
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...7&d=1653758697
Piston & Rod.
https://www.screamandfly.com/attachm...5&d=1653776536
Another Swede in the Indy 500 history books..
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Pride must be flying within the people of Sweden today.
The reports that I read is that, Marcus Ericsson holds former F1 racer Ronnie Peterson in high esteem.
Marcus has done in the past tribute helmets to Ronnie.
https://external-preview.redd.it/757...=webp&e7fd3ea0
Ronnie & Marcus.
https://external-content.duckduckgo....jt9&f=1&nofb=1
I suspect this in a Swedish publication, and Lars might give us a summary of the article.
https://www.expressen.se/sport/motor...ssiska-loppet/
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