Great old songs

OK..that clears that up.:thumbsup:

Still ticks me off. Had a big Super 8 tape of vids I took in Nam. Took all the little ones, just spun them on a big roll, and heading home. They didn't make it through customs. Seems the first one on there was a regular 8 and a bit was hanging out the side, to get it started the roll up. Well, the dude spotted the two different size tapes, larger roller holes on 8, smaller on super 8. I had a short stag film at the beginning, then my stuff. Whoops!
I was told if I wanted to keep them, I would be held back, until they could review the films. Yeah right...junk'em..I'm outta here!:D

Wonder how many more vids never made it back..:mad:

I love the nam stuff but need to catch up on 3 pages,post away Robby.Been workin way to much lately!

I brought home a Chicom rifle, had all the paperwork signed by an Army officer in Can To the MP scumbag at Saigon tried to make me take the screwed on bayonet off or leave the whole gun he said it was 2 war throphys, he almost ate 1 of the 3 live rounds I had in my shirt pocket :eek:
When and if we talk on the phone I'll give ya more details :D

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I brought home a Chicom rifle, had all the paperwork signed by an Army officer in Can To the MP scumbag at Saigon tried to make me take the screwed on bayonet off or leave the whole gun he said it was 2 war throphys, he almost ate 1 of the 3 live rounds I had in my shirt pocket :eek:
When and if we talk on the phone I'll give ya more details :D

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Seems a small token for what you guys went through. Love reading the stories guys and really glad you are here to tell them

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For you guys: there was NOT enough done for the vets when they came back from war. There are veterans from the Vietnam war that still walk the streets here, homeless. I believe MORE should have been done for them. I am glad Robby and Bushwacker that you survived and are able to live a normal life after experiencing that war. I can tell ya that my father was on the front lines in World War 2 and he didn't survive so well. As a child I can still here him waking up out of a dead sleep with the nightmares from the war, I can still remember his screams waking him out of a dead sleep. My father lived that war every day and it affected his life here. He used to let us feel the shrapnel in his legs that couldn't be removed. He lived a normal life, but not a normal life because those days at war came back to haunt him in his sleep...

OMG I just watched this whole video, what you guys went through was unimaginable, the sickest part of it all is that the younger generation will never know about Vietnam, or the story, and what you guys went through, there will never be another Vietnam. I remember it like yesterday and I can also remember where I was and what I was doing when the war ended.

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Can you explain this war??????? For what ??? The raison

JP this is a little piece of the explaination of why but there is so much more, Robby and Bushwacker could explain it better than I....

The Vietnam War, also known as the Second Indochina War, was a Cold War military conflict that may be said to have occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from September 26, 1959[1] to April 30, 1975. The war was fought between the communist North Vietnam, supported by its communist allies, and the government of South Vietnam, supported by the United States and other anti-communist nations.[12]

The Viet Cong, a lightly armed South Vietnamese communist-controlled common front, largely fought a guerrilla war against anti-communist forces in the region. The North Vietnamese Army engaged in a more conventional war, at times committing large units into battle. U.S. and South Vietnamese forces relied on air superiority and overwhelming firepower to conduct search and destroy operations, involving ground forces, artillery and airstrikes.

The United States entered the war to prevent a communist takeover of South Vietnam as part of their wider strategy of containment. Military advisors arrived beginning in 1950. U.S. involvement escalated in the early 1960s, with U.S. troop levels tripling in 1961 and tripling again in 1962.[13] U.S. combat units were deployed beginning in 1965. Involvement peaked in 1968 at the time of the Tet Offensive. After this, U.S. ground forces were withdrawn as part of a policy called Vietnamization. Despite the Paris Peace Accords, signed by all parties in January 1973, fighting continued.

The Case-Church Amendment, passed by the U.S. Congress in response to the anti-war movement, prohibited direct U.S. military involvement after August 15, 1973. U.S. military and economic aid continued until 1975.[14] The capture of Saigon by North Vietnamese army in April 1975 marked the end of Vietnam War. North and South Vietnam were reunified the following year.

The war exacted a huge human cost in terms of fatalities, including 3 to 4 million Vietnamese from both sides, 1.5 to 2 million Laotians and Cambodians, and 58,159 U.S. soldiers.[15]

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I brought home a Chicom rifle, had all the paperwork signed by an Army officer in Can To the MP scumbag at Saigon tried to make me take the screwed on bayonet off or leave the whole gun he said it was 2 war throphys, he almost ate 1 of the 3 live rounds I had in my shirt pocket :eek:
When and if we talk on the phone I'll give ya more details :D

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Larry, I'm really not a phone call type. And with respect here, to ya, but I like a simple email now. As its my time. I can get something done in the shop, walk by the puter, add more, do more shop, whatever needed to do at the moment. Its a retired thing. Take life now as I can, slow and easy. Hope ya understand what I mean here. Plus what we been through, no need to discuss private. Hang it out here, for others too see. Let the stories fly! Hopefully, some day, we can sit down face to face, and bullchit. Have an old girlfriend thats a R/E agent, years Illinois, has rentals there. Now Ft Myers, trying too sell out the Illinois cribs. Our plan, in a few years, when I hit the SS dough years, is for us to spend summer here, winter there. How far away from Ft. Myers, ya? Also friends in Leesburg/Orlando. Friends in Cocoa too...and Clearwater. The Pacific Northwest, is heaven summer, but the winters suck..damn gray and drizzle. Someday, we will sit and bull..in a boat, I hope! Robby

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We need to back a long time here Sue. I read all the TimeLife books, on Nam. Just a quickie here, but the French, I think, were the first in? There were many Vietnamese/French girls there..off spring the GI's. And on the "nightmares"..are real to many, from many wars. My BIL, was a WW2 navigator, in B-24's, and 25's. His brother was there, in the war too. I have a pic here somewhere, just before he was shot down, his brother, and killed. Both standing in front of an old B-Bomber. He had 4 brothers, the one killed, one died, one still alive in Oregon, and his 85th birthday, is tomorrow.
I did not yet look at the vid ya posted, but will soon. Damn, I don't know what more to say at the moment. I love to bring up the fun times, Nam, the strong young kids, the "The Man in the Door"....but I too see when going to town, many Vets, sign out.."Nam Vet, homeless, anything helps"..street corners. Sad. And all within 2 miles , the "marbled walls"..of the State Capital.
To tell ya the truth, at the moment, I'm still worried my friend Mary, who will soon go under the knife, right side chest ripped out, replaced with "plastic/artificial stuff".
But ya know what? If not for the wounded/dead ..from Nam? We learned much in the way of medical science. They died, to help us all out. None were not gone for a reason, and more than I will never understand.
Sorry here, but I'm getting a headache.."thinking"..but will never give up same.
And Sue? Yer thread, the homicide? Damn world going nuts. We here, PNW, are solid, on that jackoff idiot, Huckabee, as Gov... let go. Scumbag walked into a shop, OWNED by a cop, and killed 4 "men/one women...in "blue"...in cold blood. One my best friends is a cop...nicest guy ya ever can meet, my Merc IL6 guru. We are still looking for that azzhole, who murdered two cops, sitting in a squad car, Halloween. Now have this lousy black azzhole, still loose. Nationwide manhunt..F*^king slimbag.
I'm beginning, to be sick of any politician, damn corrupt judges..the whole system. It aint working anymore.."I need some fresh air, and walk the dog... " Robby

Yes, I know Robby, I had CNN on all day listening about that manhunt for the F-IN POS that killed those police officers. This world is going crazy and the worst part is our children have to live their life out in a world that is not safe anymore, our children cannot live free, the way did, it's sad.

[QUOTE=Phil's other half..

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Damn! (ya knew I had to watch ..Sue! Where did ya find that vid! Shows SO MUCH,. in so little time. The azzhole politicians, the damn protesters, who knew f^&king ZIP, what was going on there, the freaking villages, houses made out of C-Rat cardboard for a roof..damn ZERO, any sanitary..**** a ditch in a stream, down water drank it. The convoys were going,. a small village, V/N people trying to cling to the truck..running alongside..."take me outta here, please!". We had too throw..solid, HARD..(scared the crap out me, at first..why ya trying to knock out kids with C-Rat cans?...some where the innocent kids, and parents, who wanted out. and then the others..it was a unseen enemy we fought..coward bastards)

So "Red", the 60 gunner told me flat the F#@K OUT. "Dude, yer "green"..you are our new Mech, ya wrench well good this beast, and our azz, depends on that...(magically, my headache just went away...!)..and you are the ONLY MECH here. We ride rear, to do fire power support/fix/..or simply stuff those Phosphorus grenades here , on the engine block..melt it, so "they", can't use no parts. Crap hits the fan, and getting dark...torch the truck too. just grab the weapons, and ammo..rest don't count. We will call in the air support. Be back base camp in ten minutes, but those here, are still here. We live none behind, and watch their azz..'till all back safe. F^# the trucks..we will get more.
And he told me.. NEVER trust anyone here but yer own, and cover there butt, and yers. Those little bastards ya think, need "take me outta here". total bull. NEVER buy a soda off them, (poisened)..NEVER buy for a "Dong", a fresh Melon..NEVER! Little ****s there in these village, has been compromised..and they all look the same. That "Melon"..well dumbazz..that SOB probably has a grenade inside, scooped out, and plugged, the guts. Then ya give the little bastard money. And he goes home, yer dough..and the God damn f^%king "pin"
Trust me, it was VERY hard, to try and knock out a kid, a "rat" can in the forehead, the real who wanted a ride out..well, we never knew, who"s who..and never wanted to run some kid over, slips, and run over, the duels in the rear end, truck.
Damn..ya just NEVER knew, and a billion more won't get it. The "ground stuff"..we saw way too up close/personal. And no way any vid will show it either. Try this. Don't take a good hot shower for weeks, **** in a bucket, eat food, made years ago, in a can, yer wet, or dusty, hot, freezing, our all combined. Yer tired, just wanna sleep, and home base, has many blasting music, half drunk/stoned.."dude, get up , Party!". Ya just wanna sleep. The taking a quick wink, convoys, lasted just about that, a "quick".
Then ya crawl in the rack, mosquito net down.. pass out after 2/3/4 days the road..and the damn little "fire ants", are over you, and eating ya for a good dinner. War there was easy..the "conditions"..we fought in? TERRIBLE.
Weird..seems the headache, today life..went away.
If ya never did, read the book.."Dear America ..letters home from Vietnam". Super, done by Bernard Edelman...has the good . the bad, and some very disturbing. ALL real letters home. And its in chapters, so read some, both sides, Nam. Good, bad, and the ugly.
And do that firstl. Then, pick up ..(both amazon, few bucks)..here is a real shocker book. Called "..and hard rain fell", written by John Ketwig. ..(sub title is.."a true story of the Vietnam war"
He has me only 100 pages in, out 365 +. I can only read a few at a time. It was sent to me, who, "thought:"..its gotta be BS..nothing like that ever happens? Well, she is a coddled few. Old HS bud..(airhead hippie"..needs fresh air?)... Anyway, the "hard rain. is VERY GRAPHIC, in words. some who never there, say BS! I think he held his tongue ..it was much worse. Robby..(on a roll here..thanks the bended.."ear"..feels good to spit the "real"..

Little "Mr. Quick Fingers, Alvin Lee..

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