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Spmething i did over 10 years ago.
BIRTH OF A RACE.
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Attachment 410224
Spmething i did over 10 years ago.
BIRTH OF A RACE.
Lady who owns the house we’re staying in, commissioned me to do a piece right off the top of my head
“BIRTH OF A RACE” was one of the first efforts.
Over 100 people were at wedding ceremony in the town hall- then we were transported to the ruined abbey St. Felix De Montceau at Gigean. It’s been deserted for 500 years———doesn’t have a roof but the acoustics are superb——- loads of concerts and classical events held there. Big eats and lots of wine.
Then onto the vineyards of Domaine St.Andre on the Route De Marseillan —— very celubrious setting,
North Carolina relatives held their own until 10:30pm then began to flag a little—— first course of a five course meal was served at 23:00 hrs———- cheeses were served at midnight—— by this time I was on my knees——— threw in the towel around 12:30 and headed home——-end of day two—— justone more day!
Yup—— it’s all over ! The three day wedding of a Frenchman and a girl from south Carolina is finally over and done.
Midday Sunday was the start of a Bar b que for 100 guests ——— red, white and rose, beer and spirits flowing like niagara ———— more food than you could imagine.
Marquee in the back garden ——- 80 degrees with a breeze coming in off the Med. Perfect conditions.
We were out of there by 4:30.
Had enough of weddings to last me a lifetime———
Just found out I can piggyback my iPhone using its Wi Fi, Ok, so I will never be a geek——- but I never forget a trick!
Get back to you and will answer some of your comments soon.
Sponsors like the sound of WORLD RECORD——— so no doubt the term was used to impress——— if there are questions asked they will deny any knowledge of previous records.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob V
After all, there’s nobody quite as “deep and devious” as a a boat racer!
Much like everything else I think the electric records are divided into classes, I think by voltage, 48v 72v 144v and there is an unlimited which Jaguar Vector has beaten. Mike Bontoft was 144v class but I suppose either his license or something else stopped him from claiming outright. Records require a modicum of intelligence and plenty of people go for the low hanging fruit as such. Why try and beat a high speed record when you can easily surpass a record established when the technology was in its infancy or nobody else was bothered. Not to take anything away but all the existing records were established with early technology on very limited budgets by enthusiasts trying to forge a path. I dread to think what Jaguar Vector has spent to go what is still a relatively modest speed but I hear they are trying again later in the year at records week.
I think the electric train record is more interesting
I have mine lined up and ready for the record attempt...:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
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Looking good Bob, I'm glad I introduced the electric theme.. it's dragged.. err I mean extended the thread by an extra 17 post's.
I'll think of something else while ees not around:rolleyes:
Cheapest way to make electricity is with coal, I see your already on to that..
C’mon guys——- you’re supposed to talk boats, not TGV’s and Bullets—— been on both and can tell you they are impressive!
how about fastest outboard on kerosene? E-tec
fastest outboard on diesel - Merc
When we signed on you said we could talk about any-ting......What news of the London Race it's only up the road from you..Will you be allowed to go next year ;)..
A Swede ownes London F1 GP today..!!..:)
http://svera.se/blogg/finally-a-uim-f1-race-the-way-i-love-it/
Last time I paid any attention to electric records was when a guy had a bunch of car batteries stuffed into a D stock hydro and the "powerhead" was a lift truck motor. Things have really changed..........look at the building trades guys..........nobody uses AC power anymore......all cordless lithium ion power and the delivery voltage is going up to 80VDC from a humble 12VDC where it started. It's the cycle depth that's the challenge. Nobody has mastered the range problem yet. I don't think you have to worry about an electric F1 race happening for a while yet. Is the Jaguar hull a DAC they got from somebody?Quote:
Originally Posted by techteam
Thanks for the details Lasse.....I was just trying to wind him up a bit...He's had an easy time of it recently, fancy food...pretty girls ...fine wine..
Need to bring him down to earth...Lol
Ok so I said “Talk amongst yourselves”!———- if you read any of my earlier emails this week, you would know that I’m a thousand miles south of London Docks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ron54
Looked like there weren’t many spectators——— at £50 a pop they weren’t exactly going to rush out and fill the non existent seats!
Saw a bunch of old timers reminiscing on the “old days”
On Kerosene would say it's the Merc JP optimax, only sold to the US military I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
If I remember rightly Lassie, there has always been a few good Swedish boat racers in the top flight!Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Where there were motor powered sports, there were Swedes!
Remind me of the time Billy raced the worthless big Merc——- on his own against fourteen V8 Omc’s
er . Who won ?
OMC May have been “AHEAD OF ITS TIME” with the V8 thirty years ago——— didn’t stop them going “TITS UP” and into obscurity!
Don’t see many RUDES flying the competition flag these days?
As the old saying goes —- One swallow don’t make a summer”—————- to be competitive——- you have to be there !
What was it Bob and Bing used to sing———— THANKS, FOR THE MEMORY———- Welcome to today’s world Lassie———— the world of Mercury——- Outboard and Inboard ——- a bit shaky, but alive and well.
Daughter Kim says AKERS drove the race really well and deserved the win!
Living in my village —- Bouzigues——- is a Swede, Michael who just happens to race vintage autos—— it’s a Rotary Mazda RX7-78 with a 12A dry sump. Full group 2 spec—— he really pisses off the establishment by continuously winning——— told me he’s pulling 500 hp. What do you think Johnno?
Price of a DAC today is €130,000—— big chunk out of a budget——- When you can buy A full carbon Seebold for $25,000.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
the etec work well with kerosene because of the etec injector, the military also use themQuote:
Originally Posted by techteam
on diesel they are not great due to the carbon
Unless you have a highly talented CPA who is familiar with tax laws (business cost, depreciation etc) the cost of any race boat these days is not worth the money. DAC or Seebold, it doesn't matter. I unloaded all of my F1 stuff 8 years ago for 10% of what I paid for it. I was glad to get what I got for everything. Seebold composite price in 1990 was $9500...........Custom built Hoffman in 1995 was $10,500. DAC @ $130K or Seebold @ $25K? I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
Its the way of the world my friend——— who would have thought that an Outboard “Poker run” rigQuote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
would cost over a million?——— I am still remember my daughter Sam getting £500 sponsorship to do a season’s junior racing—— we thought we’d hit the big time!
Told Hodges I wouldn’t be buying any more boats when he hiked the price to £3,000 !
Get pig sick of folks who tell you ——- IM SITTING IN THE AIRPORT AT —————???? Hate to tell you this, but I’m at Montpellier airport which has had at least forty zillion euro’s spent on upgrades in the last ten years.
Its every airport in the world——- whether its Oshkosh or Carcasonne, obscene amounts of money have been spent on marble floors and scent and booze shops, dustbin like robots that read your flight details and passports, but can’t get you off in time because the flight controllers have thrown the dollies out of the pram.
Machines can’t replace people——— and it still takes an hour to collect your broken suitcase which some disgruntled “baggage handler” threw down the stairs in a mad fit of depression.
Dont you just love to travel ———— especially by air!
500 Hp maybe but I suspect that's a bit of wishful thinking. All Mazda's are dry sump as the oil reservoir is out side the working engine. The Mazda LeManns engine was 900+ Hp.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
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Originally Posted by Rotary John
Wish I knew where he's finding the 300 extra horses from a good ish 12a, no wonder the establishment is pissed off.
Michael’s Rotary is pushing a ‘68 Plymouth——— watched film of him passing 911 Porky’s with consummate ease——- his comment was———- that’s the difference between 300 and 500 hp!
Just telling it the way I heard it.
14:00 hrs and just walked in the door———bugger the “heart”——- home is where the workshop is!
Race purse amounts gradually got smaller and then disappeared (sponsors / organizers).Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
Tow money died.
Local motel discounts (for racers and crews) stopped.
Trophies went from 2-3 ft tall sky scrapers to itty bitty desktop icons (along with plaque inscriptions and size) then died off.
Prizes went from humble T-shirts to coffee cups and then wall ribbons to certificates (paper).
On the other side of the coin.............entry fees went up just about as fast as fuel prices.
Ok , so prize money went down in the USA——- there never was any decent prize money in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterZebra
So we can’t use that as an excuse.
The chrome plated plastic four poster trophies were FECKIN hideous——- couldn’t have cost more than one ninety five in Walmart’s——- Italian and Spanish trophies were beautiful in design and probably solid silver———- French were serious pieces of glass———
If anybody wants a one off trophy—— I’m quite capable of doing the odd desirable at a reasonable fee.
I just want to say that this thread is incredible. Browsing the pages on it really shows how priceless the information in this thread. @jackiewilson thank you for starting what is truly one of the all-time best threads on Scream And Fly.
Ober 500,000 views and 8200 replies! Just think about that - 8200 replies! That’s just massive.
Thank you Jackie and everybody that made this thread a very unique record of history that so many thousands of people will enjoy. It will always remain at the top of this forum for as long as this site exists (which will be for a very long time, I hope).
Greg
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Imagiine listening to a harp and a violin in perfect harmony inside a fourteenth century French Abbey without a lid ? Awe inspiring——— until the Beauty is interrupted by the sound of a three rotor drone—— controlled by an iPhone ——— taking piccies of the guests below.
Apparently, before long, the wedding photographer will be another casualty in the technological race to get rid of “BEANS”————— “HUMAN BEINGS “———
Five will get you ten there will be no such thing as a HIGH STREET————— ( you remember, place where all the shops were long ago) within five years.
Carrefoure In France, is a bit like Public’s in the USA———- used to be a food shop that sold fruit and veg———- then confectionary———then meat and fish——— then electrical and clothing———- then banking and insurance———— then travel and holidays——— then camping and fishing gear.
Was in there Saturday——- over a hundred push bikes, but with ion battery power and a range of seventy five miles, ranging in price from $500 a pop——— to $2500. Didn’t anyone realise that this would mean the Butcher, the baker, the greengrocer, the haberdashery, the electric shop, the furniture shop, the clothes store, the bike shop, the bank, the insurance broker could no longer justify staying in business and had to close its doors?
Is this happening in your town——- or is it a European thing?
Ok, so Somedays you eat bear ,——- maybe it IS happening in your town and you just haven’t noticed it yet———— milkman used to deliver fresh milk, cream and butter to our door every morning when I was a kid———- he had it in a 20 gallon aluminium churn that housed three measuring ladles
This was replaced with glass milk bottles that were washed and sent back to the dairy——— now these have been replaced by plastic milk bottles of every size——— when you finished with it you just chuckled it in the ocean ?
Hells Bells——— Gadzooks and Oddsbodikins—— How ya like them apples Willabee ? High praise indeed—— Straight from the admins mouth——- thank you Greg! All joking apart Willabee’s “Hot Singles” is in a class of its own with over 715,000 hits——- this time next year Fuji’s thread “Mercury through the years” should just about beat Willabee to the million mark——— unless of course, he decides to stick some ginger up his bum and give a big boost to the HOT SINGLES——- which Welch can do easily.——- Go for it William.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scream And Fly
Hi Jackie
I think i asked before but what years did fonda race in Singapore and Penang?
Thanks
Yes you did ask before and I forgot, apologies for being so remiss!Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
Try and find out for you Pilgrim——— late seventies and well into the eighties from memory——- but that’s shot to pieces, Mark and Parkinson both have better grey cells.
When OMC and the V8 series went into meltdown——- SAN Germano and Velden had nowhere to go——- FONDA was the only show in town, so with the help of Rolf Frohling and some devious UIM dealings they took over the old Fonda series and all the worldwide venues we had created.
You used the old 2.0 carby f1 engine, was that everyone so no OMC?
John Hill won in Singapore 1990, last FONDA as far as I can see
Yes we used the three carb——— a few Americans used Alex’s six carb———- Cees ran the two litre looper OMC on a couple of occasions——— he actually won a heat in Munich, but failed to show for the next two heats. Didn’t give a flying fart what brand of engine it was as long as it was two litres!Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
George Kragge brought a Koenig two litre one time——— Sergio Carniti tried their biggy two litre motor just the once——— OMC claimed they only made a few two litres, but if that’s so, I can tell you Cees had more than his fair share, he had shed load!
Omc did not come out to play at two litres ———— they never won a Fonda race——— would have loved it if they had!
Lassie keeps banging on about what a marvellous motor the two litre OMC looper was———-I just never saw it!
So, they’re going to armour the P1’s with V8’s for next season———— carnage unlimited! Good job they will be fitted with safety cells. Going to need a few more thAn the five that turned up at the last meeting!
Take a look at Willabee’s “Hot Singles” they’re taking a look at Billy Don Pruett’life——— that’s too hot to even contemplate———- should be interesting to say the least?
See Benny Robertson was at London to watch the London GP. Didn’t look like there were many spectators—— was told the racing was good——— lots of ex race boat drivers congregated there to have they’re piccies taken with other old ex boat racers!
Watch out for a big announcement from Fountain any time soon——- great things happening in their neck of the woods.
That V Bottom will probably run at the OZARKS in the August meet.Gieco will be there too.
Mark will have his fifty footer there——- been seven years in the making—— has all the bells and whistles and more besides——- lots of new innovations never before seen in the marine industry. Take a look at it if you get a chance, it’s well worth it.
Got a clear day to do my thing in the shop today——— been up to my fetlocks ——- but today I’m free
Hi Jackie
I see the hospital in a competition with Harold Shipman has won the the title.https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-44547788
The NHS, doing more for the pension pool than any other organisation