Chrysler racing outboards

That sounds familiar, but I'm sure I ask about selling me the four carb case. Whomever it may have been didn't feel like selling it. Bill's tried a four carb and still says the two carb is faster , but you really have to compare it on fresh equal built powerheads .I'm trying to find a five carb front for an F5, maybe one around in TX but the man is hard to get on the phone. Even his old friends who say they think he has one or two haven't talked with him in few. I'm sure I could cut and weld one up , but if it's just sitting around in the dust ? One man has some great video of team Force running well in Kankakee , when he is able to get to it he may transfer it to digital from tape. The intersting thing about the one carb per cyl. A thread on here has a knowledgleable builder doing the ports and a bunch of other goodness to a triple. When done he prop dynos it over 120hp. So with the right pulse timimg/ port height the 4 carb 4cyl should do about 160 at the prop, give or take. I've heard it all, 4 TC carbs and it's a top end powerhouse, better all around with 4 smaller WB carbs. I still think 4 TC's on a 140 big bore / stroker 103 ci + with the right lean jetting will run really well with 5 finger sguare and work cages and port work and all the rest . Thing is, cutting and welding the WB adapters to the TC adapter . TCs' never made it to the triple , so most 4 carb fronts are two WB triples cut and welded , or find a couple of 50 mm sled carbs and run them.
More of the build, gas ports to top rings and boost ports done. Still need to final smooth.

Fmp, I sent you a private message

My dad ran Chryslers in the late 60's. He was the National points Champion in 67 with dual 105's on a Hustler 16' Victor and was voted into the Gulf Hall Of Fame that year. Then put them on a 15' Hustler Wildcat for some drag racesAttachment 356658Attachment 356659Attachment 356661Attachment 356662 and also ran dual stackers on a Hustler 19' Wildcat.

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My dad ran Chryslers in the late 60's. He was the National points Champion in 67 with dual 105's on a Hustler 16' Victor and was voted into the Gulf Hall Of Fame that year. Then put them on a 15' Hustler Wildcat for some drag racesAttachment 356658Attachment 356659Attachment 356661Attachment 356662 and also ran dual stackers on a Hustler 19' Wildcat.

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I remember your dad. Great guy, great racer! I was racing OPC too, in "G" class that year.

I raced in "G" class too about 1969-70 I believe...ran a 15' Hustler Wildcat with an 80 Merc. then switched it to a 13' Wildcat with a 1 of picklefork thrown into the mix as an experiment. Finished off my racing career running UI with a 15' Hustler tunnel and a X115 Evinrude then I got married. What is your name...we both might remember you....DanAttachment 356672Attachment 356673

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I raced in "G" class too about 1969-70 I believe...ran a 15' Hustler Wildcat with an 80 Merc. then switched it to a 13' Wildcat with a 1 of picklefork thrown into the mix as an experiment. Finished off my racing career running UI with a 15' Hustler tunnel and a X115 Evinrude then I got married. What is your name...we both might remember you....DanAttachment 356672Attachment 356673

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I ran a red metal flake 13' Checkmate (major change to bottom), w/ a 80 Merc. I think it was '68 when Herb Payne (green & white, 14' Allison w/ 80) & I (Ray Wood) did a double decker trailer from MD. to the Miami nationals, Herb won, I ran second. The best part was, I ran away from team Checkmate, after they trash talked my bottom & set up. I went to the Miami nationals 3 or 4 times.
We ran all up & down the east coast, w/ Southern Md Boat Club, out of southern MD. Herb & I usually run 1-2 where ever we went. Herb moved up to run a Evinrude on a Schulz tunnel. I tried U-I (I think) with the first Twister, blew it over 3rd race. Following year, I went to SJ with a tunnel Joe Kara (out of NJ) built, also ran SJ with a E&T, what a fun boat it was!! Bill Edwards is running the same boat in V&H with his Chrysler stacker. All the old guys will be in Tavares in Nov. Try to make it. It's always a great time.

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Originally Posted by DanUmbarger

My dad ran Chryslers in the late 60's. He was the National points Champion in 67 with dual 105's on a Hustler 16' Victor and was voted into the Gulf Hall Of Fame that year. Then put them on a 15' Hustler Wildcat for some drag racesAttachment 356658Attachment 356659Attachment 356661Attachment 356662 and also ran dual stackers on a Hustler 19' Wildcat.

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Great pictures, how did the twins run? Any chance the setup is still around?

What changes did you make to the bottom? The 13 Wild cat comp I have has a rounded bottom. Looks like a copy of a Glastron starflite. Probably handled like one too...

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I ran a red metal flake 13' Checkmate (major change to bottom), w/ a 80 Merc. I think it was '68 when Herb Payne (green & white, 14' Allison w/ 80) & I (Ray Wood) did a double decker trailer from MD. to the Miami nationals, Herb won, I ran second. The best part was, I ran away from team Checkmate, after they trash talked my bottom & set up. I went to the Miami nationals 3 or 4 times.
We ran all up & down the east coast, w/ Southern Md Boat Club, out of southern MD. Herb & I usually run 1-2 where ever we went. Herb moved up to run a Evinrude on a Schulz tunnel. I tried U-I (I think) with the first Twister, blew it over 3rd race. Following year, I went to SJ with a tunnel Joe Kara (out of NJ) built, also ran SJ with a E&T, what a fun boat it was!! Bill Edwards is running the same boat in V&H with his Chrysler stacker. All the old guys will be in Tavares in Nov. Try to make it. It's always a great time.

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FMP....The sad part is neither my dad or I can remember where all of our race boats went :( i asked my dad a week or so ago if he remembered how fast his boats went and he could not...he didn't think he even put speedos on them.

Laker....We ran primarily in the midwest...I do remember going to what I thought were the Nationals in Ohio with my 13' Hustler...drove all the way out there to blow the start in the 1st heat....blowing holes all the way down to the first turn...wrecked my whole day and weekend. At the time I was winning alot that year with that boat...then OHIO ;) Seems to me at the time Downard was running his Checkmate with the 80 Merc and I wanted to show him what I had for him but I had other plans ....lol.... did real well with the tunnel in UI the first year then won less the second and third year...had started building a wood tunnel to run...got sidetracked and didn't finish it and eventually quit racing to get married.

Forgot to mention that my 13' bottom was stock with the semi round bottom....just straighted....didn't learn about putting a pad on it until after I was done with the FG boat. If memory serves me right it ran in the mid sixties...pretty fast for that hp in the 60's

I've never seen the Glastron Starflight...but the Hustler Victor and all the Wildcat models were my dads designs...not copied from any other boat. I think he may have used parts of the 15' wildcat to make the 13' but thats about it.

Looks like your boat on the right in both pictures
Mark N
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