Jackie, I guess you don't keep up with the outboard industry anymore
Most larger Honda outboards are based on their car engines.
The largest outboard factory in the world Yamaha and their V8 outboard is also used in some Volvo cars.
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Jackie, I guess you don't keep up with the outboard industry anymore
Most larger Honda outboards are based on their car engines.
The largest outboard factory in the world Yamaha and their V8 outboard is also used in some Volvo cars.
Right, now I understand Lassie, it’s SIZE OF COMPANY ,! Nothing to do with two stroke, four stroke, Rotory , diesel, paraffin or steam power.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
I did realise that advances had been made in four strokes and diesels out there in the marine world.
Is it because their large V 8 car engines are used by Volvo ——- or because Yamaha or Honda make them ?
I only asked how come it was ok to call some car engines “OUTBOARDS “ and for others to be damned to eternity?
It's easy Jackie..an outboard is on the outside of the transom..inboard inside the transom..even a Swede can figure that out.
EPA rules today, same thing..is the power on the outside of the transom its an outboard and don't need a catalytic convertor. If the power is inside the transom its an inboard and must use a catalytic convertor.
So easy to understand..!!..for me at least..:):cheers:
Sounds about right for an OLAFQuote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
You are usually good at blowing your own trumpet Jackie but you forgot to mention the OZ record at Windemere.I am sure you finished in 4th place in the 1978 OZ world championship race at Chasewater.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
Why then does it say "Mercrucier" instead of "Jackie Wilson's new toy" or "some where to use a cosworth engine" now that its no longer competitive in car racing?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
Jackie: Back in the day, APBA in the states said an Outboard was a single vertical crankshaft with a powerhead that was designed for outboard use. By that definition the 627 would not be considered an outboard. I'm not sure how APBA would have ruled on todays Hondas, Yamahas or Suzuki's that are auto engines converted for use in a vertical position. Is my memory but wasn't the original ON class run what you brung. I recall racing ON in Galveston with the rotaries. U class was for the 100ci class. It wasn't till the Merc 2 l came out that it was limited to 2l and OZ was created for outboard larger that 2l. Who knows and who cares today. That was 45 yrs ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
Volvo will develop a 5.0 litre version of its Yamaha-designed 4.4 litre V8 engine for the V8 Supercar campaign, which has previously been available in the in the S80 and XC90 production models.
5.0ltr v8 630hp ish Volvo ( the only thing volvo is the engine and the badge at the front)
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All the O classes were originally hydroplane classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
They were simply controlled by capacity.
OE——— 850cc
ON———-2000cc
OZ———-infinity
In later years it switched to F1, F2, F3 and F4.
The idea was to simplify things.
Another case of me not being on top of the game——- there were most of the best drivers of the day there, Boat ran competitively, but I made mistakes all day, I let Bob wet me down in the first heat and he ran me ragged, all over the course. Think I jumped the start in one heat, no excuses, I ballsed up one way or another———— none of the family spoke to me on the long drive home.Quote:
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Thats is the latest shot of great grandson Broderick sitting astride Timmy Seebold’s composite Champ boat built by WCC IN florida.
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Originally Posted by jackiewilson
Is this a boat to be campaigned this year. You said a champ boat but I believe they call them F1 as in Europe & other UIM venues
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Originally Posted by jackiewilson
Jackie.. how many sections in that? separate sponsons? or 2 halves like a LOTUS Esprit..
Mark worked closely with Bob Wartinger and the UIM on the safety cell ———It has full certification.
The lay up had to be done to strict specifications.
Check with Mark and the UIM and The Seebold’s if you don’t think anything’s quite right Lassie, I’m sure they’ll be thrilled by your input.
One of the reasons for doing the project was the fact that not one safety cell anywhere in the world met the required UIM standard.
Hee Hee, been waiting for this one to kick off, never thought it would be the tricks thread. I've wondered for a while how American advisors to the UIM safety cockpit committee can introduce things like crash boxes and 4" head clearance because current cockpits are unsafe yet the majority of American boats still don't even have airbags. Jackie I'm sure Marks cockpit complies with regards to structural layup but doesn't seem to comply to new UIM head clearance and crash box regulations, it does seem to have provision for the rather nice Seebold airbag system. However, if it is only intended to race in the US then maybe its ok. I would however like to be the first to point out a more glaring issue..... it's going to be a bugger to see out of.
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Originally Posted by techteam
Believe me, all sorts of nonsense kicks off on the tricks site Techie,
Mark and Craig have been involved in powerboats for many years, As a family we often sit round the dinner table and talk driver safety in both circuit and offshore. Mark was heavily involved with Hodges in the construction of the first safety cell,
My son in law Gary Stray is head honcho and team boss at “Gieco” After the terrible accidents in racing last year, the subject of cells has been talked about long and often.
Mark contacted Bob Wartinger at the UIM and decided he would delve further into the issue and start making inroads into the problem——————— hell of a lot of people are very good at telling you what’s NOT ALLOWED.————- very few ( if any ) know what is allowed.
Fact remains, folk keep getting killed and maimed with very little being done about it.
One of the main issues was constructers-not adhering to the strict lay up rules.
Mark and Craig and a couple of the worlds cleverest composite people got together and have already produced off shore cells for the clever people to tell them what’s wrong with them .
Its going to be a tough one, but they have ambition, and they’re good enough to do it.
Dear oh dear oh dear, only in the USA————- I believe that the idea is to cut out a little looksee window, unless the pilot uses the new breed of Xenon ZXF see through carbon goggles, available at all good Walmart Stores every other Thursday .
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you know what Bob, I’m damned if right about then wasn’t the very best time to buy a tunnel boat!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob V
Dont matter, whether it’s a Molinari, Seebold, Burgess, Hodges or even a Velden, you didnt the just buy a boat, you bought a work of art that was constructed by craftsmen ——— with love and care and attention to detail. It had the very latest updates that were being done on almost a daily basis.
I still believe to this day, that no two wooden boats were ever built the same, no matter who the builder was, they were FECKIN beautiful creations.
It was only when Tunnel boats came out of a bucket that you got two boats that looked alike———— even then, they never ran the same!
Anyone else got any views on this matter——— or is it the ramblings of a madman who lost the plot long ago?
seems very narrow compared with the current f1 cells with the crash box on the sides?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
im staying out of this one Pilgrim ————- I know nothing of present day cells———except there’s room for improvement. It’s time for universal agreement on all aspects of driver protection in boat racing..Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
If you want to know all about Mark and Craig’s particular cell, you can call them at WCC in Port St. Lucie.
Today, Jillys daughter Catherine is hosting a birthday tea at her house just for me. As everyone is working it has to be on a Sunday. Little Lizzie will be my guest of honour ——— it’s a seafood themed tea, so it will be interesting. Just love scallops, shrimp, lobster and crab.
Had the butcher make me a massive pork pie, if there’s any leftovers I’ll send them out to “Hawkeye” in Michigan.
Nailed the giant crossword, Managed 90% Of It before we had to get out the thesaurus and dictionary.
Does anyone else out there cheat like we do?
I was ceremoniously presented with a “BRAMLEY COOKING APPLE” tree as a birthday present. It’s a well established one, ( about ten years old ) and should have apples on it this year.
Course, It’s what Jilly has always wanted and now seems like a good time to get me one——— you know what I mean.
Spent ten minutes putting a yellow coat on Odells “MONA LOU”——— will ask Caddy for his address, both of us are a bit long in the tooth for procrastinating!
While I was at it, I put a couple of coats on Reggie and Bennys quick boat, if I can remember to charge the battery on the CANON , see if I can take a phoggie or two !
Hope your having better weather than we are——— it’s pissed down all over Europe for over a week now with Paris being hit particularly hard———— river Seine rose by twenty feet and burst its banks flooding the Louvre and the Sacre Cour .
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@jackiewilson
Happy Birthday! And thank you for all that you've given us here. You're a legend and this thread is amazing! It has given us so much, and I know I speak for everybody when I say how grateful we all are to you. It's now permanently pinned to the top of the forums for everybody to see.
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Greg, I am deeply humbled to be up there with Willabee———- Sirois——-and Fujimo. Honestly never thought Tricks would get to “STICKY “status!Quote:
Originally Posted by Scream And Fly
I don’t have the vast library of Fujimo———- or the huge personal collection of Lassie Strom.
But I can bring to the table, some racing experience, some great tales, plus lots of tall tales, plus tales I believe to be true and a love of powerboat racing second to none.
Thank you again for the best birthday present I ever had!
Jackie, I should have done it much sooner. We are very grateful for having you among our membership, and you've contributed so much for all of us. If you need anything, I am always here so please let me know. This is absolutely your website as well!Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
Happy Birthday!
Greg
Tonight I don’t have any smart remarks, sarky comments, words of wisdom or even deep thunks.
Im still humbled and a bit shell shocked by the day’s events.
Willabee has always been the main man on S&F, yes I do tend to throw him a few curve balls, mainly because he’s a supercilious, umbonated pedagogue, but with a vast knowledge of tunnel boat racers from every corner of the globe———- OMC——- Mercury——- Europe——— North America, he not only knew them—— he was friends with all .
SIROIS ( Stavros) ——- I knew his brother Bill, long before I knew Steve. His Lake X thread has kept S&F readers enthralled for years with over half a million hits and rising.
Fujimo——- do not have any idea who the hell he is or where he’s from, if he wants to hide behind a far eastern pseudo, then it’s his own damn business———- can’t imagine the terrible deed he must have done to want to remain “INCOGNITO “
Its great to be up there in such exalted company——— I’ll try and justify the position , and try not to get into too many head butting confrontations.
Trouble here is——- you and I know——- that’s just not going to happen!
Monday again, if it’s not Monday it’s Thursday——— Taking her who had the broken leg for the final check in at St Richards——- bet their glad to see the back of her, bear with a sore head doesn’t even come close.
Lots of my friends came by yesterday for the free tea—— was totally unexpected, thought there was just going to be the five of us, but you know how sneaky these ladies can be, pork pie was a great success and the carrot birthday cake with so many candles it caught fire was something you don’t forget in a hurry.
Tomorrow, Jilly and I are taking off in the Trusty Lexus and heading off for wherever it takes us——- quiet lunch together, maybe a country walk or a stroll along the beach if it’s not chucking down with rain. Don’t need any presents, long past mundane things like that——- nothing I need, I have everything a man could possibly want, so I’m just going to sit back and enjoy it for a while.
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Jackie - It is only 7:35 PM EST on 01/29/18, but with you being five hours ahead of us, it is now safe to wish you a:
Beat me to it Bob V. Happy Birthday Jacko!!!http://www.aahorsham.co.uk/phpThumb/...335f7cf8ea62f1