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Mark has been talking ro Ted for the last forty years Fuji, they go back a long long way. Don’t think they’ve ever been out of touch.
Ted used to work the Miami and Lauderdale boat show for Mark when they were running Fountain World Wide.
In fact I’m sure Ted bought all the go cart race team , lock stock and smelly motors complete with custom trailer/ workshop !
Was on my way to lunch with my brother in law last Friday——- middle of a roundabout on the A27, minding my own business———— little old lady driving a dinky toy car decides she’s COMING THROUGH, ———- that is through the Trusty Lexus !! Wasn’t the best decision she ever made.
She wrote off her own car and buckled the two near side doors on the Lexus!
Now, here’s the rub———- to do a bit of panel bashing would take a day with another day’s painting and cooking—————— but no !it needs a pair of new doors and a complete repaint . Guess what——— the old Lexus IS not worth that much money———— insurance company want to write it off?
What do I do ? If you own a diesel you might as well have leprosy———— tree huggers want you to buy a battery. Whichever way you look at it , there’s no change out of £30,000.
I was perfectly happy with what I had——— it would have seen me out——- then a little old lady on a mission alters all that.
Wonder If there’s a single person——- anywhere in this world, that has been happy with his insurance company.
There are compensations if you buy an electric hybrid, Like no excise duty———— £4,000 towards purchase, electric bills paid till doomsday———- silent running, and for free, no noise, no smell, no joy.
I have become an automaton————-
You need to check you are not being scammed by repairer and/or insurance, to write your car off then repair and sell.
I assume its a financial write off and not an engineering write off, so you can fix it and put it back on the road?
Pilgrim, I’ve had the trusty Lexus for seven years and a hundred thousand miles————- trade in against a new one, it’s worth about three thousand———— that’s the problem. Car is now twelve years old and not worth washers any more———— but I could never have wished for anything better!Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
Jackie: First mistake; you should have asked the police to take you to the hospital as you didn't feel right. You can still do it and claim a delayed reaction. Second; tell her insurance " fix it or I'll turn it over to my attorney" Works every time here in the states. Good luck. You could always get one of the Kia's. They even make a hybrid version.
Been looking at the Kia Niro Johnno———- even with all the handouts and freebies it’s over £25,000 with all the bells and whistles Another six thousand and I get what I want (Nipponese Neverwong )instead of a Taiwan tin can.Quote:
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Penny finally dropped Bob———I stopped counting birthdays when I was a little girl——— the only thing I want for this birthday is a fresh built DFV, then just maybe I’ll live long enough to hear the old girl fire up again!
I will admit you’re a real smart arse with piccies on the puter . Just wish I was half as bright Bob !
Johnno, that’s downright dishonest, I got to that stage where no amount of hospital treatment will put me right————- anyway , the little old lady was badly shaken, hanging on to her husband for dear life frightened she was going to jail . No, I don’t need to scare little old ladies———— plus, I sleep good at night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
Jackie: Well maybe then the skaking little lady and her husband will replace your trusty Lexus; you think?
No Johnno, I don’t have that much faith anymore, but nobody was hurt——— Lizzie was not on board, and at the end of the day. It’s a bloody car, an inanimate object with absolutely no feeling——— if it was burnt out, in a wreck or run off a cliff it wouldn’t make a dent in the day? That’s why we carry insurance——- to soften the blow. Fact that all insurance companies are lying thieving grasping bastards is neither here nor there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
Was going to try and get an hour or so in the shop today but never quite felt up to it———just too many aches and pains. Let’s see what tomorrow brings. Need to finish Odell's Mona Lou sooner than later or it’ll wind up in the scrap bin along with the rest of the “Didnt quite make its “
I will take that as a compliment and I thank you for it. As far as bright, your bulb burns far brighter than mine. I would have never thought to skirt around the rules and mount a Cosworth in a tunnel with an outdrive and run it with the outboards - Brilliant :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
there is a picture somewhere with it running on a stand I seem to remember proving its an outboard?
It isn't an outboard; never was and never will be. APBA at the time said single crank, vertical shaft. designed as an outboard. That's why he had to run as a KT at Parker. And even then he didn't win his class. The fact you could pull it out of the boat without removing the drive doesn't make it an outboard. If my memory is correct, it never won a race against a real outboard. Sorry JW, but that's the facts.
In Europe we race under UIM rules, not APBA——- all I ever wanted to do was race. I was never a politician and I certainly had nothing to do with making any rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rotary John
You should know better than most how anything extraordinary gets folk ticking !
To this day the Wankel was never accepted as a legal motor.
According to UIM rules——— the designation of an Outboard is simple——— it must be removable from the boat complete with its drive. End of.
We went to Parker to race a boat———- and didn’t give a flying fart what class we raced in——- we were “RACERS” nothing else.
Both Mercury and OMC had made a right pigs ear of the racing scene, in inboard and Outboard classes. They were slowly killing racing .
As you well know, it’s been well documented anyway. The Cosworth competed for just one short season,first race was Bristol where we finished fifth overall against twelve factory boats and all the best drivers in the world. I have no excuses, should have done better, but didn’t..
Second race was Amsterdam ( again ,against both factory teams——— was leading at the halfway stage, but managed to hole the hull..
Third race was the 100 mile Duchess of York at Chasewater——— full international field , Percival, Spalding, Bullen , Jenkins Thornywork apped the whole field twice
Never broke brown ever———- only race we didn’t finish was Amsterdam with a hole in the boat.
Bet you wish you could say the same thing about the rotories , only decent race they ever won was Windermere after all the front runners dropped out and Downard managed to limp over the line to win.
Time to get up, I’m hungry.
Every once in a while something different or unusual comes along. Rarely completely successful, often running under a grey area of the rules but always done with passion and a high level of engineering know how or a devil may care lets just try it attitude. Those that try it always think it great, those competing against it call it illegal or underhand, against the spirit of the rules. But you know what, who gives a ****, let's just worship them at the altar of innovation or out of the box thinking, because whether your cosworth i/o, rotary, brabham fan car, etc the truly great things will always live on in people's memory long to be argued over by friends or enemies alike and if we don't have our history what do we have?
Only Bill Browns heart.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
aussie engineering, all iron to boot. Bert Hines
If Bill had played it square and honest he could have been part of the DFV project. I could have overlooked the fact he couldn’t drive his way out of a paper bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by techteam
Bill had departed from Northampton before the DFV program was even talked about
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A Rotary – (Wankel) wins the 2 liter class in Paris 6 hours 1970....!!!!! Fact.
http://svera.se/blogg/a-rotary-wanke...-6-hours-1970/
In Amsterdam 1976 if I remember right did Jackie race the 2 liter outboard class with the Cosworth 2 liter inboard. There was always a 2 liter inboard class in Paris 6 hours.
Yes, that’s right Lassie——-Bill Brown and I shared the Miles Two litre Cosworth outfit, I provided the boat and running gear——— Bill took care of the engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
He raced it in Rotterdam and in fact was in the lead after the first one and a half hour heat, On re entry to start the second heat he dropped the boat from the crane and broke all the engine mounts.
He Decided he would be the sole driver after Carlsberg came up with some rather large sponsorship money! We parted company on the dockside in Rotterdam.
It was two weeks before the Amsterdam race——- I bought Roger Hooks Scimitar and Chas and I fitted a brand fire new BDG (settlement for me walking away) Cosworth lump in it.
Made the start line and led the race from the flag until one hour ten minutes into the race when a cracked exhaust manifold poured water all over the electrics.
We lost the last twenty minutes of the heat.
Second heat, did a repeat performance and won the second hour and a half heat.
Bill Brown managed to sink John Hill in his OE class boat which resulted in his sinking in the pits
The boat had never even been fired up or turned a lap prior to the race.
Had a new Hodges built for the Paris race ——- came round first on the first lap——— was lying third behind Percival and Spalding after the first hour when I threw a blade.
The inboards were always fairly competitive with the factory boats. tried step up boxes and all all sorts of gizmos at one time or another.
did any of the BDG 2ltr boats have sterndrives?
Jackie..Why did you not race the 2 liter inboard class in Paris instead of forcing you in to the 2 liter outboard class (ON)..??
Most of my Swedish friends race cats in the 2 liter inboard class in Paris and won the inboard class.
As and outboard driver inboards was a pain.. much heavier and they made larger waves (because of the weight) and was more difficult to pass then an outboard boat in the same class.
My personal opinion is.. it was crazy to mix up outboards with rule bending inboards in the same class.
http://www.screamandfly.com/attachme...6&d=1516843615
Till an outboard beat all runners at the Griffith Cup in Australia ( OMC F1 v8 of course) first time it ever happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
have no idea what happened thereQuote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
Looks like even Merc thought it was a sterndrive. By the way, I thought you said Merc never gave you any help. Mean to tell me that Merc used your setup in their ad and you didn't get anything out of it?Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
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Quote from Jackie.."If you can run with a hundred foot Siene barge then a rule bending inboard shouldn’t pose too much of a problem"
Well Jackie.. my first Paris 6 hours was 1973 and there was no barges allowed during the race... (so barges in Paris was prior me racing there). To me the 2 liter inboard class was the "barges" in Paris. The OE class was always faster then the 2 liter inboard cats and fighting those waves from the heavy inboard cats was let us say no fun.
Below is the result from Paris 1978.
I did race the OZ class that year with Angelo Vassena and finish fourth.
You can also see the OE class did 135 laps and the S3 (2 liter inboard class) only 117 laps. Maybe you should have raced your 2 liter inboard boat to victory in the Paris inboard class 1978 instead of messing with the outboards in the OZ class..:):)
http://www.screamandfly.com/attachme...2&d=1516886363
The Rotary was 100% legal in the UIM OZ class.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
ok Lassie, so you never got to run the big boys race———- only after the barges were stopped. I can live with that. But just FYI, I was running Paris twenty years before that, not that it means anything or will buy you a beer on a barge.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
I totally agree with you——— the S 3 class is the barge class, but a lot of Scandinavians have had a lot of fun out of them over the years.
So, you finished fourth in 1978—— Guess you had shed loads of problems to lose 17 laps during the day———- ah well, some days you eat bear !
As you said, if you’d have been racing your OE you would have been right up there with ,em
I really cannot for the life in me see why you got so pissed off at me for running in the OZ class anyway Lassie, It’s nothing but an old long extinct, totally with out Formula hydroplane class that has only ever been an entry for barely legal engines———- it’s a class for tractors, tanks , multi engined monsters and anything you want to run that won’t fit in any other class.
But at the end of the day it’s UIM legal, like it or not Lassie——— even for the Cosworth.
And YES, we did mess with the OZ/s
SO WAS THE three litre COSWORTH ,Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
I was really happy finish forth overall in Paris 1978. It was my first OZ class marathon race and our goal was to finish the 6 hour race. We had some powertrim problems and did use a 2.448 cross-flow V6. Renato used the new 3 liter V6 looper Fuel Injection.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackiewilson
I guess we match your result in the OZ class same year in Bristol..:)
Not sure why you did not raced the OZ class in Paris with us..
http://www.screamandfly.com/attachme...5&d=1516889621
I,m not sure myself why we didn’t race Paris Lassie———- nobody would ever believe the politics involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
From the UIM to the APBA to CART racing and auto racing in the USA That little old venture had far reaching effects across all the continents and in all kinds of sport.
All I ever wanted to do was compete with the factories, but neither of them wanted that!
HeeHee..Jackie..this is a real powerful outboard now with Swedish connections..:)
http://www.screamandfly.com/attachme...7&d=1516891586
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Originally Posted by Rotary John
I used to sell quite a lot of Mercury Outboards and the odd stern drive or two.
i believe that picture is on the cover of ROZ Knotts Powerboat magazine in which I advertised extensively ( at my own cost)
Believe it or not Johnno———- to get an alpha stern package, I had to buy the full package. Couldn’t even get boat builders deal on it.
In the end it was cheaper for me to fly out to Oshberg———- stay at the Best Western and screw a deal out of GG on a Ron Kones/Keith Black, KT boat and trailer, fully rigged and ship it back to England .
Never was able to buy a stern drive out of the importers SWMF. Having said that, Dennis Stacey, their service manager always managed to find me the odd part or two at an advantageous price.
So in answer to your question——- that’s not a Merc ad. It’s a Jackie Wilson bought and paid for ad.
Its got more connections than a 1950/s computor———- is that not a Mercury clubfoot I see dangling underneath a V8 caddilac lump, cobbled together by a bunch of ex Mercury employees and sold on to a well heeled Scandinavian company in the name of progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars strom
But I gather this V8 car engine is ok to be called an Outboard? Care to tell me WHY .? Lassie.
Bob, I never had this much attention in all my born days———- you can get down off the naughty step any time now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob V
I had a piece of useless information passed on to me that has nothing whatsoever to do with the price of a baguette in Bouzigues———- apparently there were 1,000 hits on this site yesterday!
So what, I ask myself——- as long as nobody takes a shotgun to the site, who gives a flying fart whether there’s one or a thousand of my friends out there.
Just hope everybody likes the “TRICKS” site.