You were the big Tesla/Musk/Cybertruck cheerleader... before you found out he was a Trump supporter! Did you get your Cybertruck deposit back? :cheers:
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You were the big Tesla/Musk/Cybertruck cheerleader... before you found out he was a Trump supporter! Did you get your Cybertruck deposit back? :cheers:
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Originally Posted by David - WI
You are sick with TDS, Musk is just like trump, another cult leader lies lies lies,
The price doubled, the battery is half the size, he said OVER 500 miles, 320 is a joke,
Musk knows he can control wimp trump, Elon just became a US citizen in 2002, Rumps wife just became a citizen 2006, his first wife became a us citizen in 1988, Trump loves foreigners as long as they come from overseas.
Before it's over Elon will be paid back 100 times the 200 million he invested in Rump.
You should only speak when you know what you are talking about. :thumbs-up:
I just bought another Cummins pickup, as far as I'm concerned the present battery tech is not sufficient for my wants and needs,
My brother sold his six-year-old model S two years ago and bought a Lucid Air, long before any politics were involved, I became interested in Tesla because of my brother
But just like trump he talks too much chit. The anti-Musk movement is growing.
I had a Zero EV motorcycle with twice the battery option and it was fun to drive, but I HATE range ANXIETY, after the next generation of batteries arrive I'll be on board, but not until
I LOVE Diesel. I have 10 on my property now. I'm selling everything and moving to the Saint Johns River. Naples is great off-season, but in season, I can't handle the traffic.
I'm going to try live aboard life style a few months a year, lots of places I want to see, from the Great Lakes to the Caribbean.
With twin Cummins, ONLY
I like the Idea of a small jet ski AND a small tender, being far offshore, I want a backup plan, I have great respect for Mother Nature and her many phases, I've done enough offshore ruff weather to last me a lifetime, My brother the sailor would not pay attention to the weather forecast, no running away in a sailboat.
https://www.curtisstokes.net/flybrid...y-2805114.html
Poor land CRAB ... four years, banging the cut and paste drum about Tesla. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by David - WI
Greentard this, Libtard that ... and Musk turns out to be a true American patriot. :thumbsup:
Turns out, batteries are still good for starting real motors. Shop tools, flashlights, CRABS sex toys, cell phones and wall clocks .. :D
Not so good to power outboard motos, nor cars or trucks .. :p
BTW .. in case anyone forgot, the boat this thread was started about, has been put back in original 300x condition .. and sold. ;)
I must really be behind the times as far as the "anti Musk movement" quoted. Seems that I remember the V.I. talking about all of the Tesla stock that he had and how great Elon and everything about him was (LOL) just more B.S. posted as usual. I am now an Elon fan and especially after hearing his multiple 3 hour interviews with Joe Rogan. We just bought some XAI at seven times lower then its high. With Elon's team being on the cutting edge of technology and a recent six Billion dollar capital influx, it will be interesting to see what he makes of it.
Joe
Ironically, the V.I. posted this 3 years ago to the day (12/25/21) after I posted about getting to meet Elon during property negations for a possible production plant in Daytona and disclosing that he was a 100% Trump supporter:
Musk made 160 million from sale of PayPal in 2002 which he ended up investing everything into SpaceX because he had to or It would have failed. If his 3rd attempt would have failed there would have never been Tesla his original goal was to use 1/2 his money from the sale of PayPal but he needed to burn It all or It would have died, He has put It all on the line a few times and made it work through his own pereverance, more than anyone to date, he has no boundaries when It comes to work the most driven person In the world.
Musk sleeping in the factory when he had to..
Just like GM when John Delorean actually visited one...lol
Explains where the companies are today
Everytime we get back our old homestead we try to make it to Port Canaveral.
We love to see the huge cruise ships mere feet from us and any of the X goodies that may be there.
Best was a yr ago when we hit there twice in a short time.
Stop 1 one of his retrieval ships was there!
Empty but still way cool to imagine the brilliance it took to make that whole system function.
Stop 2 was even better.
The Space X retrever ship was there but this time w/a rocket on its back deck!
All charred black, looking like they fished it out of a warehouse fire!
Something else to ponder, they now appear to have a permanent port there and had 3 boats last time there.
3 miles away as a crow flies, from Nasa!
Can only imagine there are thousands of brilliant engineers excited about their future while 15 layers of beurocratic management are scared to death about there’s!
Another entity that could probably loose half its work force w/o missing a beat?
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Originally Posted by JPEROG
Yep Musk the misogonistic biljonair using his money to surpress democracy
But he should have hired an englisch or italian designer instead of a 3 year old for the cyber truck
https://youtu.be/nVNIoQUcFI4?si=FLszhQ0TnmYUzAX-
Meanwhile at mercury racing
https://youtu.be/_WFmm9EsGhE?si=6JirXU9sJWuHW5ST
you know foiling yachts go faster than those silly foiling outboards
https://www.commondreams.org/news/elon-musk-maga
Exposed: Elon Musk's Real Reasons for Going Full MAGA for Trump
"As eccentric and provocative as Elon Musk wants people to think he is, he's really just another corporate billionaire who wants to avoid accountability."
Julia Conley
Oct 22, 2024
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Tesla founder Elon Musk has spent his career cultivating the image of a provocateur who's driven by a passionate commitment to free speech and technological innovation—but a new report by consumer advocacy group Public Citizen makes the case that when it comes to Musk's political priorities, there's nothing unique or trailblazing about him.
Musk, said Public Citizen research director Rick Claypool, is galvanized by the same concerns that lead oil executives to pour money into the campaigns of pro-fossil fuel politicians like Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump: self-preservation.
Claypool published research cataloguing the numerous business-related incentives Musk has for supporting Trump, whose rallies the billionaire has spoken at recently and for whose campaign he has created a super political action committee.
At least three of Musk's businesses—electric car maker Tesla, space exploration company SpaceX, and social media platform X—face a total of at least 11 criminal and civil investigations over alleged fraud, labor violations, and other accusations.
"Enforcement priorities can shift significantly when administrations change," wrote Claypool. "Musk's self-serving desire to thwart the numerous civil and criminal investigations into his businesses seems a likely reason for the billionaire's increased involvement in electoral politics."
"Trump has promised to put Musk in charge of government efficiency. Since Musk's companies receive billions in government contracts every year—and often clash with government regulators—Musk would in effect be given the power to trim the very agencies that regulate him."
The report points to federal investigations into Tesla's claims about the "self-driving" capability of its vehicles, with the Department of Justice (DOJ) examining whether the claims constitute criminal fraud, and a case at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) charging that Tesla retaliated against Black workers who reported being subjected to racist harassment at work.
The Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Musk's $44 billion takeover of X and the Federal Trade Commission has received reports that Musk gave orders to employees that would have breached an FTC consent decree which the company, formerly called Twitter, entered in 2011 as part of a settlement for alleged deceptive practices and privacy violations.
SpaceX has been accused by the Environmental Protection Agency of pollution that violated the Clean Water Act, and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) last month accused the company of safety violations in its rocket launches in Florida.
Musk, who is the richest person in the world with a net worth of nearly $250 billion, has attempted to fight federal investigations and cases against his companies by threatening a lawsuit against the FAA alleging "regulatory overreach" and challenging the constitutionality of the National Labor Relations Board and a DOJ case.
Last October, as the DOJ was expanding its probe of Tesla and just after the EEOC sued the company over racial discrimination, Musk called for "comprehensive deregulation."
"As eccentric and provocative as Elon Musk wants people to think he is, he's really just another corporate billionaire who wants to avoid accountability," said Claypool. "Nobody—not government officials or massive corporations or billionaire executives—is above the law. But if self-serving campaigns to the contrary succeed, the injustice of America's two-tiered justice system will only deepen."
The Public Citizen report comes days after Musk urged his followers to sign his petition supporting "free speech and the right to bear arms," promising a random $1 million payment each day to one registered voter who signs—a scheme legal experts say amounts to illegal vote-buying for Trump.
At The Nation on Monday, Jeet Heer noted that Trump has pledged to put Musk in charge of a “government efficiency commission” that could help eliminate federal regulations and advised Democrats to fight Musk's attempts to influence voters by calling attention to what he really is: "an oligarch threatening democracy."
"Musk's eagerness to elect Trump is clearly rooted in a squalid quid pro quo," Heer wrote. "Trump has promised to put Musk in charge of government efficiency. Since Musk's companies receive billions in government contracts every year—and often clash with government regulators—Musk would in effect be given the power to trim the very agencies that regulate him."
"Musk," wrote Heer, "is the perfect face of the new American robber barons."
Back when I worked for a Tesla supplier, Mr Musk had a history of setting what a Tesla engineer told us were 'stretch goals'. Sometimes he is successful, not always, and seldom on time, at least on the car side. I don't see it as lying, but rather as a way of pushing his employees and suppliers. Tesla has revolutionized how cars are made both design and process (gigacastings). The next phase is supposed to be modular assembly which could reduce assembly cost by 30% (outside estimate) to 50% (Mr Musk estimate). Mostly good here.
On the other side, Mr Musk successfully had language banning US companies from investing in China tech from the recent spending bill. Yes he is investing in China tech. And he is trying to end the death reporting that the auto industry lived with since 2000. No data would impede NHTSA's ability to investigate defects and initiate recalls. In general I believe that the auto makers and suppliers want to make safe products. But I am glad NHTSA was able to investigate Takata's exploding air bags. Crony capitalism anyone?
Well, I would rather have the rich get richer in this country. The fact is when that happens, if you have any ambition as an average working person YOU benefit from what they do.
What the other party wants to do is steal from the innovative rich in this country and send it to third world countries. I know you have heard of the Clinton Global Initiative. One example of this is climate reparations for poor countries. Every third world country has some form of government ranging from democratic socialist to dictatorship. The Dems want an open border to turn the U.S. population into being government reliant. The majority of the people coming across the border see the U.S. as a big social program as long as the Dems are in power.
As an employer of 100's for 40 years in South FloridaQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark Poole ModVP
You are absolutely CLUELESS