I didn't say it can't be done. I did say ludicrous to do it. Go for it. All I can think of is a couple of lines from some comedians that I won't repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by RUM RUNNER 305
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I didn't say it can't be done. I did say ludicrous to do it. Go for it. All I can think of is a couple of lines from some comedians that I won't repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by RUM RUNNER 305
when a new boat hull is in the design stage,,,,
"the motors to be used is a big part of the hull design"
24 and 28 skaters were designed for 2.5s for cg,,,,
as that was what was available then
max lift at speed and through the rough handling
when put on xs motors the cg is off
works well for river /lakes
but in the rough not as good
2014 and down were designed for xs
so now same senerio when put on verado
where did mercury debut the 15" verado ??????????
on back of a xcat at an event
this is a huge market for that motor
as they will purchase 90% of every motor merc puts out
as stated very few with a 30-36 new cat will be using this motor
when the blue motor packages will out run the o/b
and then take an old school vee or cat
do a restro on it,,,,u think more money spent on 1 motor
than what the boat is worth is going to be done much?
the market for the 15" motor is for x cats
deep pocket uim racing
the 20" is more for the big market here today CCs
no different than the 300 drag sales
compared to the champ/F1 sales around the world
same sanctioned racing type series sales
vrsing pleasure market 1 drag to 50 champs
as why drags were stopped in production
What do you mean with "2014 and down were designed for xsQuote:
Originally Posted by johnmiffco
so now same senerio when put on Verado"? Are you saying Skater changed the 28 hull in 2014?
no didn't mean skater,,,should have clarified
"newer hulls designed/built" after release of the xs motors
were designed with the opti in mind as they were in design stage
now verado taking place of opti
is same senerio as 2.5 to opti
as far as hull design to motor
I think you pretty much nailed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmiffco
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Originally Posted by johnmiffco
True. and probably not to many going to go threw the expense of trying to make the Vrod work on there 2.5 or 3.0lt hull design. But there will be some that do. Theres more than one way to skin a cat. oh snap!! :D
the 15 & 20 verado is here today
good power/torque
the 20 is going on ccs and pontoons like crazy
the 15 was protyped for the x cats
so they will be going on some old school hulls
and new performance hulls will be designed for them
again how many 15" will be sold to public
time warp back quite a few yrs
18-21" hot rod hulls ,,,stv,mirage,liberator,ect
were designed for 2.4/2.5 375 lb motors
and a few stuck on the 575lb omc v8s
transoms breaking off and high bows
now u have 375 going to 625,,,,,,each,,,,,,,,,
dcb just put 2 20" 400s on their 29 cat
with merc there testing with them got 108
descent # more prop testing will do better
but no testing in real water conditions ,,,,2-4' under power,,,,what will it do
a older 28 skater with just stock ros 280s on it will do about that set up properly
razor just hit 120 with modified xs motors on his 28 skater
and we know how these boats go in rough for their size
im an old o/b racer and built quite a few hulls for drags and circle
love the simplicity of the 2.5
but them days going away for the small hot rods
now gotta afford 25' single 400 doing 85 for 100,000 +
or 30" twin 400 at 200.000+ at 110
u know when start teeking the 400 it will go faster
but dam out of my price league for 110
when can buy used car motor 36-40 skater for under 200
and start at 150 mph
bud just bought a used 388 with 1350s all stock
1st run was 182
400 is nice motor but speed to price is hard to bite
I wasn't necessarily just talking about Australia. Europe make quite a few suitable sub 25' boats also. But I take your comment as a positive. You are right that we have built some fantastic boats. The US are miles ahead in cat building technology however, it's something you just never see many of down here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayzor
All the boats you mentioned above are actually the smallest market hence why they are all custom made and usually race specific. Probably our biggest market down here is the 19-21' deep v ski boat.
Oh, and yes I just checked and our toilet does spin the correct direction, yours up there must all be broken! Ha Ha!
Thank-you. I was concerned. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolution141
Better hold back so that you don't risk anything until you get it fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by NICE PAIR
Well, they improved a few things here and there but stayed within the parameters of the fishing engines.Quote:
Originally Posted by powerabout
15" mid sounds great (although how does removing 5" in the mid shed that much weight???), but am I the only one that sees a very limited market for a big heavy inline 6 with a 15" mid?
So say the target market is for a 30' cat. Wont the bottom cylinder or cylinders practically be in the water with 650# plus engines and 15" mids on a 30' cat? Call me stupid (it wont be the first time), but I would think the 20" mid might be the better fit here anyway.
On a 30' cat, how will this 400R compare to the say the 300XS in fuel consumption at a 80 mph cruise? What about longevity at sustained high rpm use? We know 2 strokes like to be run for sustained periods at 6000 rpm, how will the new engine like sitting near redline for extended periods? The 300x and 300xs are known to have weak lowers when pushed in offshore conditions. How will the lowers hold up with the new engine? Are the prop shafts the same diameter? If so, will puking props/prop-shafts be a real concern with the increased power?
Lot's of unanswered questions...
I knew there was a reason I went back to an outhouse! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolution141
OK I've been doing a little research on this toilet flushing thing here. Also did it on draining sinks. What I've found is they go both ways.
Now keep in mind I live in California and that might have something to do with it! :)
Onetime, From what I have observed, most everyone in California go both ways!!