Help Needed! - ID This Old OB Race Boat

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Originally Posted by Bob V

I know that there has to be a story behind running one of each of the Big 3 outboards ???

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Hey Bob--You remember the 60's and 70's---There was a lot of 'switching' going on. I remember Howard usually ran OMC's--but he did show up with Black Motors--

For the Bahamas 500 he ran this boat--I don't know how he put this deal together--wouldn't you like to see the 'memo billing'? He actually finished the 500 with all motors still running---

There was a cigarette commercial back then: 'I'd rather fight than switch'

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Hi Gene...Thanks for your info. If you had told me that someone had done that, I would have a hard time digesting it. But... seeing is believing. I was thinking that perhaps he was looking for more sponsorship than any of the Big 3 were willing to give and came up with this idea to put them all in their place. I know back then the Big 3 had super egos and to put all three together on one transom had to raise some hairs...:eek:

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Originally Posted by Greg G

Now I was not even born yet but THAT photo has to be one of the all time classic race boat pictures. Great shot, thanks for sharing Mr. Lanham. Didn't Howard and Bob Cox run a 20 footer from Miami to NYC?

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You are thinking of Brook and Ronnie Russell in the V-16 Alim??

Here is part of the CREW at Bob Hewes---

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Gene,
What boat was he running?
Howard was a fun guy to be around. Always had a smile. I met him when I was about 15 at Dade Marine in South Miami.

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Originally Posted by GENE LANHAM

You are thinking of Brook and Ronnie Russell in the V-16 Alim??

Here is part of the CREW at Bob Hewes---

http://i68.tinypic.com/124y35x.jpg

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I used to have a lot of fun playing "race boat driver" as a kid in that boat. Unfortunately only when it was on the trailer in their back yard three doors down from my house.

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Originally Posted by lilabner

Gene,
What boat was he running?
Howard was a fun guy to be around. Always had a smile. I met him when I was about 15 at Dade Marine in South Miami.

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Butch--in the Roaring 100 he was driving a Desilva with a pair of Super BP's. Howard was at Galveston 69 with this same boat--and a guy named Marvis Carmichael---(there's that name again)

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Originally Posted by GENE LANHAM

Butch--in the Roaring 100 he was driving a Desilva with a pair of Super BP's. Howard was at Galveston 69 with this same boat--and a guy named Marvis Carmichael---(there's that name again)

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Marvis is listed as Bobby Erra's co-driver in the Mandela in the 250, which he wasn't, I was. I don't see Howard listed at all anywhere..
But I'm sure you are correct. What a hair-raising event that was. Crashed Merten right in front of us in the twin engine race, and flipped five boats in the 250 in ten minutes, and killed a driver, with no medical response team left. I watched them trying to do CPR on him on a picnic table and tossing him into someone's van to try to save him. All this while putting on my Gentex and Helmet for my stint. And we were 3rd overall at the time. Poorly run and dangerous event, especially if you got hurt.
I never even knew Marvis, did you?

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Originally Posted by lilabner

Marvis is listed as Bobby Erra's co-driver in the Mandela in the 250, which he wasn't, I was. I don't see Howard listed at all anywhere..
But I'm sure you are correct. What a hair-raising event that was. Crashed Merten right in front of us in the twin engine race, and flipped five boats in the 250 in ten minutes, and killed a driver, with no medical response team left. I watched them trying to do CPR on him on a picnic table and tossing him into someone's van to try to save him. All this while putting on my Gentex and Helmet for my stint. And we were 3rd overall at the time. Poorly run and dangerous event, especially if you got hurt.
I never even knew Marvis, did you?

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For those of us that cannot read the fine print...:eek:

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Originally Posted by lilabner

Marvis is listed as Bobby Erra's co-driver in the Mandela in the 250, which he wasn't, I was. I don't see Howard listed at all anywhere..

I never even knew Marvis, did you?

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No, I didn't----wouldn't you think we would remember some one that won so many races?? Kinda like Cox and Joyce??


The St. Petersburg 50 Mile Ocean Race
The Pelican Harbour 100 mile Gulf Stream Regatta
The Orange Bowl Regatta
The Sam Griffith Memorial


The 'So Big' is the boat Howard ran in the Roaring 100---and I vaguely remember him being in Galveston--only been 48 years:nonod:

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Gotta admit, those 19 inch DeSilvas were some wicked boats ;)

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Originally Posted by Mark75H

Gotta admit, those 19 inch DeSilvas were some wicked boats ;)

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:iagree:

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Originally Posted by GENE LANHAM

No, I didn't----wouldn't you think we would remember some one that won so many races?? Kinda like Cox and Joyce??


The St. Petersburg 50 Mile Ocean Race
The Pelican Harbour 100 mile Gulf Stream Regatta
The Orange Bowl Regatta
The Sam Griffith Memorial


The 'So Big' is the boat Howard ran in the Roaring 100---and I vaguely remember him being in Galveston--only been 48 years:nonod:

http://i67.tinypic.com/ne9jlh.jpg

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I have been waiting for someone with more knowledge than me to question the 140 BP's mentioned above. However, that has not happened. Now I am wondering if there really was a 140 BP? I remember the 125 and 135 BP's, but I have never heard of or seen a 140 BP...until now...:confused:

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Originally Posted by Bob V

I have been waiting for someone with more knowledge than me to question the 140 BP's mentioned above. However, that has not happened. Now I am wondering if there really was a 140 BP? I remember the 125 and 135 BP's, but I have never heard of or seen a 140 BP...until now...:confused:

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Merc said the 1250 Super BP was 140 hp without stacks. Its referring to hp, not model number.

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Originally Posted by Mark75H

Merc said the 1250 Super BP was 140 hp without stacks. Its referring to hp, not model number.

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OK...that makes more sense....Thanks...:thumbsup:

Give 'ol Marvis a call. He's alive and well, living in League City, Texas.