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OntarioStreamin
11-05-2005, 05:11 PM
I was wondering if you guys know what a V-Kings average weight is?
I know some are heavier than others.
And I also know that Hydrostream.org says 625lbs.
And if any out there have light weight rigs, what do they weight?


I weighted my boat last night and I was blown away!!!

Towed the boat into work with me yesterday to weigh on the dump scales. Made two trips, one with the boat and one with just the trailer.
The boat on the trailer missing only the motor and jack plate.

Truck, Trailer and Boat = 2792lbs.
Truck and Trailer = 2442lbs.

When I do the math I get 350lbs :)

But I know my friends will have something to say :D
150aintenuff
11-05-2005, 09:02 PM
no wonder you get 83 with a 150..... my Valero is ROUGHLY 6-700 lbs( 2 guys can pick the boat up from the rear 1 person can rock the front so I guess around 650-MAYBE 800...
Scream And Fly
11-05-2005, 10:34 PM
I never weighed any of my V-Kings, but my Comp was very, very light. That boat ran 112 with a 2.4 Mod-VP. I think my current boat is the lightest though - it comes in at 1050 lb, completely rigged, without fuel. It was weighed on two calibrated Chatillion scales, too.

Nick, remember to add 'bling' to your boat. It won't go faster, but it looks cool!

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/6600/dscn46388lj.jpg
DoktorC
11-05-2005, 10:53 PM
Do you have any insides in that boat?
Charlie M
11-05-2005, 11:07 PM
That boat needs to be in a museum.

My old blue V-King was just about 750. No motor but rigged. No gas tank, battery or back seat.
150aintenuff
11-05-2005, 11:18 PM
greg IF I PROMISE to keep it buffed and polished will ya send me your bling.... my boat needs it FO SURE... my gearcase hasta be black..... welded nosecone and what not..... next boat will have a sporty tho..
150aintenuff
11-05-2005, 11:19 PM
Do you have any insides in that boat?


look at my hydrostream thread a little ways down the page... he posted interior shots there,,,
OntarioStreamin
11-05-2005, 11:25 PM
So I guess the 625lbs from the Hydro.org page is the stock weight of a V-King!
I would still like to know what some of the light weight rigs are weighing in at!
Ted Stryker
11-06-2005, 08:31 AM
If it is truly 350 lbs, It should be noticably flimsy and concerning to move around and on... I have a 350 lbs. 16' Allison(balsa core), and it requires a little caution... I walk down the center of the floor where the main stringer is, and I lay no more than a Lifeline vest on the front deck...
JWTjr.
11-06-2005, 09:10 AM
A 350 pound Viking would be rare indeed. Not saying that it's not possible, but at HydroStream, only the race Vikings would weigh at 400 or slightly under (hull and deck with rubrail, assembled, no seats or accessories).

When I worked there I checked production orders going back to 1978 on Viking weights (actually checked all models, all years). The lightest Viking I saw was a competition model that weighed 329 lbs. The lightest production model was one I built in 1989 that weighed 468 lbs. complete with windshield, carpet and rubrail (no interior, rigging or steering). Most production Vikings weighed between 600 and 750 lbs. depending on what purpose they were built for, what accessories they had, etc.

JWTjr.
WATERWINGS
11-06-2005, 10:11 AM
My bare Vector, (with windshield, carpet, and 5 gal of gas in tank) weighed 720 lbs.

I will weigh it again after the wet wood,(core) has been replaced.

Remember to unhook the trailer from the truck when you weigh it, and not leave it hooked up to the ball.
OntarioStreamin
11-06-2005, 10:55 AM
The boat has an interior including, 3 light weight Allison buckets, 30L gas tank (with a bit of gas), battery box with all my safety equipment and all my rigging.
The boat has been completly redone 1/2 balsa core.
Keel box, floor and 2.5'' transom/ knees all made with mahogany plywood.

Now the deck has been made from scratch with light weight in mind.

WATERWINGS
What would unhooking the trailer from the truck do?

The boat was very unstable in the water with no motor.
I paddled it back on to the trailer and it just wanted to spin around.
And it was very front heavy, the nose was probably 4'' from the water.
Ted Stryker
11-06-2005, 12:21 PM
Depending on how the boat is balanced on the trailer, the tongue weight of the trailer will change between having a hull on or not having one.. If the tongue weight is 150 lbs. with a hull and 75 lbs. without, the difference will read as less than the actual weight of the load removed (hull)... The 75 lbs. difference of hull weight was being carried by the truck before, and it will give a figure of the hull being 75 lbs. less than it really is... A hull/trailer without a motor is very front heavy and will have a drastic difference in tongue weight from one with an engine, giving a significant miscalculation if not unhooked from the tow vehicle... I almost confused myself trying to explain that but there is a difference... I probably should let Waterwing explain it.. ;)
Ted Stryker
11-06-2005, 12:30 PM
There is a formula that can be employed by sliding your hull a known distance back and forth on the trailer... You have to know the tongue weight before and after the the hull slide, and know the distance from the pivot point (axle) to the point of tongue weight ( jack wheel )... It is a basic F O I L algebra formula, I just can't remember what sequence to do it... Me and my brother did 3 hulls in one day, and the largest miss was 7 lbs. from actual...
BarryStrawn
11-06-2005, 02:03 PM
Truck, Trailer and Boat = 2792lbs.
Truck and Trailer = 2442lbs.

Kilos maybe? No way a truck and trailer weighs 2442 pounds.
Scream And Fly
11-06-2005, 02:17 PM
Yeah, I have to agree. A Pontiac Fiero by itself weighs about 2700 lb. dry. Better check that scale. :)
150aintenuff
11-06-2005, 02:37 PM
if its kilos then the boat is APROX. 750 lbs..est
Alan Power
11-06-2005, 02:46 PM
if its kilos then the boat is APROX. 750 lbs..est

771.75 lbs to be exact :D
OntarioStreamin
11-06-2005, 03:03 PM
I screwed up guys.
Thanks for the eye opener.

The actually weighs 350 kilos and thats 771.6179176lbs :D :D :D

I thought I added weight using mohogany. :)
I wonder if its lighter than the old configuration with rotted core?
Definately stronger.
150aintenuff
11-06-2005, 03:07 PM
makes me feel beter about my hydrostream being all original and dry....
OntarioStreamin
11-06-2005, 04:14 PM
Only one way to find out! :D
How about you help me sell my V-King and with the money we can start to build an infused coosa V-King?
Or if your game, we can build a 100+mph Vegas V powered by your 2.5!
I just want to build something! :D :D :D
Scream And Fly
11-06-2005, 04:16 PM
A V-King in the 90s would be very tough with a stock 150, regardless of how light and/or stiff it is.
WATERWINGS
11-07-2005, 09:55 AM
Ted's right, to put it simply, if the trailer is hooked to the ball, and the truck is NOT on the scale, some of the actual weight will be on the ball, (truck), and not fully onto the scale.

So, to get the most accurate weight, the trailer should be unhooked, and left to sit fully on the scales, (by itself).

Same when you come back to weigh the empty trailer, unhook it from the truck, and drive the truck off the scales.
OntarioStreamin
11-07-2005, 04:59 PM
The truck and trailer were both on the scale.
The scale is like 50+ft long, to accommodate transport trucks.
WATERWINGS
11-08-2005, 09:52 AM
Why do you want to know the weight of the truck too?

My point was that to weigh the boat, and trailer, (together and seperatly), the tounge of the trailer has to be OFF of the ball on the truck, (and the truck OFF of the scales), to get an accurate weight.
DoktorC
11-08-2005, 10:08 AM
All things being equal, his weight is acurate. As long as the weight of the truck didn't change then the way he did it will work fine. You are correct about the tongue weight but that doesn't come into play when the truck, trailer and boat are weighed as a single unit. You may want to add 5lbs for fuel usage (10lbs if you drive a Dodge:)).
WATERWINGS
11-08-2005, 11:59 AM
I understand what you mean Doktor......but like you said, gas, luggage, cargo, toolbox........(etc) could cause a little gray area when it comes to getting a trust worthy weight, (especially if the weights are taken a week apart, for what ever reason)

I have always unhooked.
jphii
11-08-2005, 12:19 PM
John what scales do you use around here?
WATERWINGS
11-08-2005, 12:59 PM
The scales at Mason Lumber Co. (right behind my house.)

But the mill will close down probably next year or the year after.

There is another scale just down from my house that would probably let us use theirs after the mill shuts down.
OntarioStreamin
11-18-2005, 05:10 PM
Thats cool, I didn't expect to see a pic of my boat today!
Thanks Chris.
It's going to look a bit different next year!
Gauges,shifter,and cowl.

oh yah and steering :D
Fibertron
11-18-2005, 08:49 PM
Mabey its the "Rustic" interior...... that makes it go fast!!!

Andrew the day you get a shifter is the day i hook my water presure hose into a gauge.. lol
hydroviking
11-19-2005, 10:59 AM
A 350 pound Viking would be rare indeed. Not saying that it's not possible, but at HydroStream, only the race Vikings would weigh at 400 or slightly under (hull and deck with rubrail, assembled, no seats or accessories).

When I worked there I checked production orders going back to 1978 on Viking weights (actually checked all models, all years). The lightest Viking I saw was a competition model that weighed 329 lbs. The lightest production model was one I built in 1989 that weighed 468 lbs. complete with windshield, carpet and rubrail (no interior, rigging or steering). Most production Vikings weighed between 600 and 750 lbs. depending on what purpose they were built for, what accessories they had, etc.

JWTjr.

I have a 77 viking and it had it a factory foot throttle mount glassed in. was wondering if they had that in all the vikings or could it be a lightweight version of some kind.
OntarioStreamin
11-19-2005, 01:51 PM
I couldn't tell you!
Anyone with half the knowledge of fiberglass could of glassed the shifter mount in!

Fibertron
I see you got some new Lavorsi gauges in :eek:
Now I guess I need some :cool:
hydroviking
11-20-2005, 09:29 PM
I know someone could have easily glassed one in, but I know for sure that it is not the case. Whats the big deal with the viking or v-king bull****. Mine was made before the lawsuit, on the coast guard sticker under model it is stamped Viking. I dont mean to sound like a ***hole but I get that from a bunch of people. Doing pretty good with that 150, what kind of wheel ya spinning to get that speed?
PHISH
11-21-2005, 11:54 AM
I have the spot for a foot throttle already glassed in for my vking as well.
OntarioStreamin
11-22-2005, 08:45 PM
Borrowed
14.5X30 Cleaver
And the motor high as poss. :D
Bogman
11-23-2005, 10:20 AM
Hey Andrew

Where did you end up storing your boat, I didn't see it at the farm where I keep mine.

Dan
OntarioStreamin
11-23-2005, 06:48 PM
A friend of mine stores his 81 Z28 in a barn up in Woodville and he got me in as well.
$35 per month.
Whats new with you?
We need to get together for some hockey and beer :)
Bogman
11-24-2005, 11:03 AM
hockey and beer, hockey and beer gotta have my hockey and beer :D

Not much going on just gettin the sleds ready, Deano will be comin up for beers a few times over the winter I'll be sure to let you know ...maybe we can do some ..hockey and beers :) If your in the area stop by I'm out in the garage alot this time of the year.... $35 a month is better than what I'm payin, good find. I thought passed you towing your boat one night, you were probably on your way to Woodville.

Dan