Who will have the fastest boat at the CT River Run??

[Viper GTs]

I will say my 300Xd Checkmate will be to get the ball rolling....75 MPH on gps..Beat that...AL..

[SUPAJAY]

I bet herb will at 106

[PaulO]

George will be at 115 - 120 with his 18 Donzi.

[PhastBoat]

Helmut....................

[transomstand]

I'll beat anybody there!!!!


I only drag race a quarter mile................And I get a 400 yard jump.:D

[Scream And Fly]

I'm going to have to side with the home team here... Nobody is going to be faster than Helmut.

[Liqui-Fly]

I'll have the fastest glitterflake boat there:) Fastest Stratos too.

[PhastBoat]

I'll have the fastest glitterflake boat there:) Fastest Stratos too.
Translation: Who will have the Gayest boat there!

[LGT-FST]

I will be the fastest tomorrow. :p

[PhastBoat]

Fastest to sink!

[Dave S]

I would come up, but I am scarred of the river and logs that may be floating .......... and my race boat is water logged and taking on water so I will stay home and cut the grass. :p Just a fool :)

[Massbasser]

How many bass boats? I should be somewhere in the low 90's, is that close for fastest bass boat? :rolleyes:

[PhastBoat]

Is 90 while your fishing or not?

[LGT-FST]

The fastest bass boat at the river run so far has been Allison Dan. With a bone stock 225 @ 97.8. :eek:

[Rich Owen]

I don't think anybody can come close to Rob Sachs .

[Massbasser]

Well with two in the boat and a fishing load I should be damn close, once I find the right wheel it'll be mid 90's solo with gear. I am not going to touch 97.8 though even stripped. :D

[stokernick]

hhhhhmmmmmm,the world's slowest Stoker might just be the Ct River's fastest Stoker!!:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

[stokernick]

let's not forget Delusional[36 Spectre] and Brucie!!:p :p :p

[platypus]

I'll be the only fastest (18 skater) :cool:

[stvhelm]

oh what did you guys start here:rolleyes: I keep saying to myself Im gonna take it easy for once. maybe enjoy some of the scenery. oh what the hell

[Tom D.]

Yea right Helmut!

Tom

[Rich Owen]

oh what did you guys start here:rolleyes: I keep saying to myself Im gonna take it easy for once. maybe enjoy some of the scenery. oh what the hell

So I guess that means around 110 mph in Helmut speak ?

[Scream And Fly]

Man, I want to go to CT... That's my favorite event.:(

[Rich Owen]

Well come on up then !!!!!!!!!!

[FiberglassDoc3000]

24' PREDATOR
ON THE
PROWL.....

:D

[stokernick]

last year Kriptonite,this year Predator.Time will tell.:D

[CRMERC]

I think Rob sachs boat is probaly the fastest but i dont think i would get out of the electric chair to take a ride from haddam to hartford and back in that missle. Of the group that goes to hartfod i would think Helmut is the fastest. If it were a race from haddam to hartford and back brucie would be back first in my opinion. I would be happy to just not have to swim.

[Rich Owen]

Carl , I agree on all 4 points !

[Scream And Fly]

Rich, are you taking any new lenses with you this year?

[Fish]

george (geoo) is pretty fast.

[WR_Merc]

Allright Helmut 110 or a little faster i can handle that,but ill have my hands full and you will just be crusing with a beverage in hand. Can we talk you into running a 24p through hub prop. Wayne

[FiberglassDoc3000]

last year Kriptonite,this year Predator.Time will tell.:D


phisshhhh....mmmuahhh :cool: - practiclly " made " kriptonite to what they are....but the world must go on...lighter.. faster..the best!...hehehehe :D

[Liqui-Fly]

Man, I want to go to CT... That's my favorite event.:(

I beg your pardon :mad:

[stokernick]

that's okay,Dave,he says that to everybody!!:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Trigger Happy]

let's not forget Delusional[36 Spectre] and Brucie!!:p :p :p


Nick,

His boat would be fast if he wasn't afraid to drive the thing!!;) :D

How are you guys doing? Just checked this site out today. I may not have the kind of boats you all have, but I will still put a few jabs in on you! Right Bruce? (or is it Brucie):D

[stokernick]

welcome to the site! Put your jabs in,but be careful,only his wife and father-in-law have jewels to call him Brucie!!He's told me he only has to go fast enough to win!!:D

[action20]

The fastest boat i saw was that guy with the donzi he was running 120 MPH while everyoine was watching. There maybe other ones faster but NO ONE ran like he did infront of the beach.

He has my vote !

[at100plus]

At this rate, who will have a CT River Run:(

[Trigger Happy]

welcome to the site! Put your jabs in,but be careful,only his wife and father-in-law have jewels to call him Brucie!!He's told me he only has to go fast enough to win!!:D

I know Bruce and his wife well (as well as Nick his brother-in-law). Great people.

I got the jewels to call him far worse (and have) :D . How are things going Bruce?

[Delusional]

I know Bruce and his wife well (as well as Nick his brother-in-law). Great people.

I got the jewels to call him far worse (and have) :D . How are things going Bruce?


hey trigger happy go back to speedwake :eek: stroker - oops - I mean stoker nick is my daddy and big nick is my brother - poor brucie - what did he marry into ;) :D oh yeah and liqui-fly is my other brother...sorry fly :o

just waiting for the run to go down - maybe this weekend or tomorrow -friday - we'll do some running here. lakes come up 5 feet - if we could just get rid of the rain we could have some last runs to the dam and back again and again.

as for the subject of the thread - Helmut... for now ;) :D

[JIM5656]

Is Everyone Still Trying To Go This Weekend Or Is It Postponed Again?

[beer30]

It will happen on weekend of the 29TH now!!!! :( Chuck.

[Trigger Happy]

hey trigger happy go back to speedwake :eek: stroker - oops - I mean stoker nick is my daddy and big nick is my brother - poor brucie - what did he marry into ;) :D oh yeah and liqui-fly is my other brother...sorry fly :o

just waiting for the run to go down - maybe this weekend or tomorrow -friday - we'll do some running here. lakes come up 5 feet - if we could just get rid of the rain we could have some last runs to the dam and back again and again.

as for the subject of the thread - Helmut... for now ;) :D


Mary, I don't know what you were thinking when you married Bruce!!;) :D

Is everything already for the winter there now?

Tell Bruce I am draging him down to Key West for the poker run with me. You won't mind will you?:D I hope to see you guys soon.

[stokernick]

TH,you going to Ct River Run!

[Trigger Happy]

TH,you going to Ct River Run!

No the boat has been put to sleep for the winter. The weather is not looking that bad for this weekend. I hope all those going have a great time. I would think that alot of debris is going to be floating so be careful out there guys.

[stokernick]

You and BIGNICK put your boats beddy-bye and Bruce is prop testing Sunday to the dam.Guess he won't have to open it up,again!!;)

[Trigger Happy]

You and BIGNICK put your boats beddy-bye and Bruce is prop testing Sunday to the dam.Guess he won't have to open it up,again!!;)


The only reason he is even going out is because I am not out there. He now feels safe to run and be king of the (empty) lake!;) :D

[stokernick]

if that's what you want to believe,but somehow I feel different!:p

[Trigger Happy]

if that's what you want to believe,but somehow I feel different!:p


Don't make me have to re-winterize my boat! :D Heck, I think his beautiful daughter could run his boat faster than Bruce (ie) does!:eek: ;) :D (and she can't even see over the dash!):D I got your message last night Bruce (wisea$$). I will call you tonight.

[stokernick]

I'm sure she could[will]but like I said before he only goes as fast as he has to!Bring it!!:cool: :cool:

[LGT-FST]

George :rolleyes:

[For Now]

George :rolleyes:
What else is new...
He told me 109+ on the way north into the 3+mph current... :eek:

[stokernick]

Fastest Donzi-George Fastest Allison-Warren,fastestStratos-'Fly Fastest Activator-SamFastest Ventura-Pete Fastest Skater-Art Fastest Eliminater-SteveFastest HST-Russ etc.!!!!!It was all one of a kind Miage,PowerPlay,Superboat,Allison Bass boat,who'd I forget??:)

[Trigger Happy]

I'm sure she could[will]but like I said before he only goes as fast as he has to!Bring it!!:cool: :cool:


I already brought it!!!:cool: :D

[Trigger Happy]

Here is one of him trying to decide how he can beat me (he was going to tie an anchor line on mine before we left the dam!;)


:D


The other is just us catching some sun at the dam before heading back to Sand Island.

[Liqui-Fly]

An incredible 65 mph blast to the damn. hahahahahahahahaha

Bruce will be at the Romp next June, but that will be about it.

[Trigger Happy]

An incredible 65 mph blast to the damn. hahahahahahahahaha

Bruce will be at the Romp next June, but that will about it.


He brought his daughter out as an excuse so he didn't have to run me!!;) :D :D

It was nice to see him, Mary and his daughter get out to the dam (well at least Mary and his daughter).;) I could tell he wanted to use those throttles a little more, but he did the right thing and just took a nice ride with his family.

65mph??? His boat goes that fast???:D

[Liqui-Fly]

You missed my point which was Bruce can hang with the Romp crew but the rest of those 65 mph rigs pictured have never and will never show.

[Trigger Happy]

You missed my point which was Bruce can hang with the Romp crew but the rest of those 65 mph rigs pictured have never and will never show.

Ah, now I gotcha! It seems whenever you guys are on Sacandaga for that weekend I am usually not around. I would love to run with you guys. I don't care what kind of boats they or I have. I just like to check out boats. Mine won't hit some of the speeds that you guys can hit, but I can keep up (90mph) and I can run that in the rough stuff too:D . I know a couple of guys on the lake that talk all kinds of trash, but always pansie out. I am sure you know the brothers I am talking about. "Jim's boat can outrun your boat in any conditions that Sacandaga has". I loved that stupid statement of his brother. If it were up to those 2 we would not excede 45 mph on the lake because it will cause us "unneeded attention from the authorities".

You didn't answer my question. Bruces' boat can actually hit 65mph? ;) :D

[stokernick]

90 MPH??? It looks to me like you're flat out and Bruce is hardly on plane @65MPH! Just like someone mentioned this past weekend "do you guys only run your boats two times a year?"I'm into my 11th gal of oil which translates into 400 plus gal of gas,so I guess you could say we run our boats.!There's no restriction on who runs the Romp,just show up and have at it! It's always the third weekend in June!!Rain[Usually]or shine,we don't care!:D

[Trigger Happy]

90 MPH??? It looks to me like you're flat out and Bruce is hardly on plane @65MPH! Just like someone mentioned this past weekend "do you guys only run your boats two times a year?"I'm into my 11th gal of oil which translates into 400 plus gal of gas,so I guess you could say we run our boats.!There's no restriction on who runs the Romp,just show up and have at it! It's always the third weekend in June!!Rain[Usually]or shine,we don't care!:D


400 gallons??!!!

Wow. I burned that in one day in the 1000 Islands. I travel with mine. Lake Champlain, Lake George (only for the Queens race and Fall poker run), 1000 Islands, Seneca lake etc... I do use mine alot more than Bruce does (but then again summer is busy for him). Bring your boat up to the 1000 Islands poker run. I would like to watch you run that water. :D :D


The third weekend in June is usually my birthday weekend and there are usually 2 or 3 poker runs scheduled that weekend (NYC and Alexandria bay are two of them). That is why I am not usually around for your run. Maybe this year.

[Trigger Happy]

Here are a few helicopter pics from the Race on Lake George this past summer.

[Trigger Happy]

Few more

[freddyspens]

400 gallons??!!!

Wow. I burned that in one day in the 1000 Islands........ I do use mine alot more than Bruce does (but then again summer is busy for him).
.


man, that really suks.. i am more then happy in either one of my lil' hydrostreams, the vector or the ventura- and they both put ya back in the seat like a big block muscle car on the way up..

hahaha-
actually, i saw a boat that looked exactly like the boat in the pics early this summer and i decided to jump in my boat and go blow by the guy...well i caught up to him(after warming my motor up while i idled out of my cove) and caught up to him and as soon as he saw me coming up on him to pass him i could hear that he had punched it(although it didnt seem to be going any faster,maybe cause the water was a little rough?? :eek: ) so i just kept coming by the guy, i got next to him and waved and hit it again and got by him no problem so i turned around and went back towards my part of the lake.

that guy looked soo pissed when he saw my lil 16ft'er coming right by him like his boat wasnt nothing!! and that was with my lil 2.0 motor, not even one of the ones ive built since that one!!

anyways, i just wanted to share that day with ya, nick i hope you enjoyed it a bit.... oh, and trigger happy if ya want a tune up i can hook you up so maybe you will cut down on fuel comsumption a bit....just a thought, but seriously, nice boat too :D ... -sean

[Trigger Happy]

man, that really suks.. i am more then happy in either one of my lil' hydrostreams, the vector or the ventura- and they both put ya back in the seat like a big block muscle car on the way up..

hahaha-
actually, i saw a boat that looked exactly like the boat in the pics early this summer and i decided to jump in my boat and go blow by the guy...well i caught up to him(after warming my motor up while i idled out of my cove) and caught up to him and as soon as he saw me coming up on him to pass him i could hear that he had punched it(although it didnt seem to be going any faster,maybe cause the water was a little rough?? :eek: ) so i just kept coming by the guy, i got next to him and waved and hit it again and got by him no problem so i turned around and went back towards my part of the lake.

that guy looked soo pissed when he saw my lil 16ft'er coming right by him like his boat wasnt nothing!! and that was with my lil 2.0 motor, not even one of the ones ive built since that one!!

anyways, i just wanted to share that day with ya, nick i hope you enjoyed it a bit.... oh, and trigger happy if ya want a tune up i can hook you up so maybe you will cut down on fuel comsumption a bit....just a thought, but seriously, nice boat too :D ... -sean



Thank you.

If you can find a way to make these be more fuel efficient, let me know! :D

[freddyspens]

Thank you.

If you can find a way to make these be more fuel efficient, let me know! :D


well, those are CAR motors not boat motors.. they r meant for a little ole rig like a mini van or something :confused: :D .. to conserve fuel, i guess the best way the best way, for that BOAT anyways, is to cut about half of the extra,un-needed hull off and lighten it up :eek: A LOT..

just playing, where are you located?? i think i have seen your boat before and if your on the sacandaga fairly often that would be why i guess since i grew up on this lake... oh, and if ya wanna go head to head,next time your up here stop by, im about a 1/4mile south of the sport island pub docks on the same side, im always ready to let someone eat my roostertail ;) ....

later-- sean

[Trigger Happy]

well, those are CAR motors not boat motors.. they r meant for a little ole rig like a mini van or something :confused: :D .. to conserve fuel, i guess the best way the best way, for that BOAT anyways, is to cut about half of the extra,un-needed hull off and lighten it up :eek: A LOT..

just playing, where are you located?? i think i have seen your boat before and if your on the sacandaga fairly often that would be why i guess since i grew up on this lake... oh, and if ya wanna go head to head,next time your up here stop by, im about a 1/4mile south of the sport island pub docks on the same side, im always ready to let someone eat my roostertail ;) ....

later-- sean


In a real boat you need those motors. If I had a 16 ft fishing boat then yeah maybe those would be too much! ;) :D :eek:

I live on Sacandaga so yes I know roughly where you are located. Always up for some fun. Better hope for a VERY calm day. ;) :D

Chris

[freddyspens]

hahah, you aint kidding about having at least a somewhat calm day!!! although over by sinclair point,when i smoked that one cigg style boat in my 16ft ventura it was actually really rough but once i get that thing over 60mph it stays on the tops of the waves-to a point anyways... but yeah, hopefully we will catch up with each other on the lake sometime and get to meet-and of course maybe have a friendly little drag race,well next spring probably although i am planning on being out on the lake a few more times for sure this year,as long as its above 35-40degrees!!

i actually just got a new shop on the back side of northville in maple grove so if you ever need any help with anything, id be happy to lend a hand, also, its on a 2acre piece of property so its going to be a good place for storing stuff,especially when i get another building up for protection from the elements...

oh, and as far as a "real" boat, umm, to me, the streams and other boats of this size and type are as real as they get but then again i love the lake boats and im not really into the big ones for myself-- like any high performance, highly refined piece of machinery they are SWEET, just not my cup-o-tea so to speak...

oh, where are you on the lake chris?? nice ta meet ya too..later--sean

[Trigger Happy]

hahah, you aint kidding about having at least a somewhat calm day!!! although over by sinclair point,when i smoked that one cigg style boat in my 16ft ventura it was actually really rough but once i get that thing over 60mph it stays on the tops of the waves-to a point anyways... but yeah, hopefully we will catch up with each other on the lake sometime and get to meet-and of course maybe have a friendly little drag race,well next spring probably although i am planning on being out on the lake a few more times for sure this year,as long as its above 35-40degrees!!

i actually just got a new shop on the back side of northville in maple grove so if you ever need any help with anything, id be happy to lend a hand, also, its on a 2acre piece of property so its going to be a good place for storing stuff,especially when i get another building up for protection from the elements...

oh, and as far as a "real" boat, umm, to me, the streams and other boats of this size and type are as real as they get but then again i love the lake boats and im not really into the big ones for myself-- like any high performance, highly refined piece of machinery they are SWEET, just not my cup-o-tea so to speak...

oh, where are you on the lake chris?? nice ta meet ya too..later--sean


I am located by Sinclair point on South Shore rd.

Drag race, no. Mine does not just pop up on plain. You would be long gone before I got going. If it was more of a running start then ok. The rougher the better too!!:D I am sure I will bump into you out there next summer.

[freddyspens]

thats a nice area over there chris.. i used to see a chick that lived right off of "vunk road" i think it was called -across from lodge on the hill so i was over that way quite a bit...

yeah chris, i was kinda joking about drag racing cause from what i have seen it seems most of the big boats take a bit to really get moving.. but of course we are gonna have to give it a run-- wouldnt be right if we didnt!!

one of the things i like most is the put me back in the seat screaming power where when i hit the gas,the boat leaps out of the water and lands on plane, like going 0-80mph real quick and then pull a few more once i get it trimmed just right.. one of the motors i am going to be putting together shortly should go from 0-100mph very quickly and have a lot more put ya back in the seat- :D should be about 100hp more then the modded 2.4 i usually ran this summer :eek: :cool: its one of the most rewarding things to see what a motor does after doing some work to it, its great to see my friends reactions as well...

well, again good to meet ya, i havent seen all too many fast boats on this lake so its good to meet ya... later--sean

[stokernick]

I guess 400 gal in a car motor boat is a weekend romp,but with a 2.4Bridgeport it takes a little longer.:confused: My boat went in the water April23,and I've run it today and yesterday after the Ct River Run.My season ends when the lake freezes.:rolleyes:

[stokernick]

Oh,and the third week in June;:: birthday weekend,Father's Day,poker run NYC:::::::kinda like "a new dinette sey,new Harley,new dinette set ,new harley!!!!:D :rolleyes: ;) :p

[freddyspens]

I guess 400 gal in a car motor boat is a weekend romp,but with a 2.4Bridgeport it takes a little longer.:confused: My boat went in the water April23,and I've run it today and yesterday after the Ct River Run.My season ends when the lake freezes.:rolleyes:


come on nick and get down here one of these days for a little run around the river and anywhere here.. id love to see the stoker.. im dropping the vector back in in the next couple of days after i finish a few little things to the 2.5..later--sean

[stokernick]

Sean,forecast for Sat is sunny,65* maybe I can Get 'Fly to launch and do a run.I've been burning gas here at Caroga[MonTueWed] and a little longer run would be nice after the 43* freeze-a-Conn river run!I know Bruce and BIGNICK have winterized their's,but Dave said he's not ready to quit yet!;)

[JIM5656]

I am tinkering with some minor crap. If I can get it straightened out i would like to take another spin....Jim

[freddyspens]

that would be sweet jim, i havent gotten to see your boat run in a while.. ill have some free time as soon as i install this motor on friday morning, if ya need an extra hand let me know and ill be happy to help ya.. i dont mind burning the midnight oil to get it done!

oh, and im gonna get to drive my 1st full tunnel boat on friday morning, its a light layup (500lbs) 18ft seebold race boat.. this should be pretty cool!!
later guys,--sean

[Trigger Happy]

I am tinkering with some minor crap. If I can get it straightened out i would like to take another spin....Jim


You better not excede 45mph........

[Liqui-Fly]

Jim isn't getting crap from a guy with an 80 mph boat the best?? :eek: Oh yeah but it likes the rough stuff. So did the USS Nassau which did about 20 knots.

Saturday is looking pretty good for me but I can't commit to much these days.

[JIM5656]

that would be sweet jim, i havent gotten to see your boat run in a while.. ill have some free time as soon as i install this motor on friday morning, if ya need an extra hand let me know and ill be happy to help ya.. i dont mind burning the midnight oil to get it done!

oh, and im gonna get to drive my 1st full tunnel boat on friday morning, its a light layup (500lbs) 18ft seebold race boat.. this should be pretty cool!!
later guys,--sean
Thanks for the offer, i just need to make time to get it done. When are you going to run the seebold? I'd like to watch ya go. I will be working on my boat sat. If you want to get together let me know. Is that the white one that was for sale down in East galway?

[JIM5656]

Jim isn't getting crap from a guy with an 80 mph boat the best?? :eek: Oh yeah but it likes the rough stuff. So did the USS Nassau which did about 20 knots.

Saturday is looking pretty good for me but I can't commit to much these days.
Sorry, I was stuck all day doin crap. I will call ya tho.

[JIM5656]

Jim isn't getting crap from a guy with an 80 mph boat the best?? :eek: Oh yeah but it likes the rough stuff. So did the USS Nassau which did about 20 knots.

Saturday is looking pretty good for me but I can't commit to much these days.

I am still laughing.....Fly . You are awesome. :D

[freddyspens]

yeah, that was some funny stuff... the seebold is one from somewhere else,maybe toronto but im not positive.. its a light layup 500lb 18ft'er single seater and thats pretty much all i know.. haha, itd probably be pretty funny seeing me drive it!! lol, i can see the shake now when it goes to air lift... im not positive when were running it yet but im excited to try it out-- im gonna be ruined on vee's i think!! later guys--sean

[Trigger Happy]

Jim isn't getting crap from a guy with an 80 mph boat the best?? :eek: Oh yeah but it likes the rough stuff. So did the USS Nassau which did about 20 knots.

Saturday is looking pretty good for me but I can't commit to much these days.


It's faster than 80, and Jim has stated that we should not be running around over 45 mph on the lake because it will bring unwanted attention to us boaters. He made a big stink about it and he chose not to run in a fun run because we would be going to fast. Hence, the 45mph comment. I'm happy with upper 80's to 90 in speed, and not being limited to where I can run. Others are.

[Trigger Happy]

I am still laughing.....Fly . You are awesome. :D


And I'm still laughing at you Jim. (But aren't many of us)

:cool: :D

[Trigger Happy]

What I said was a 24' Cat will run 90+ over anything the Sacandaga has to offer.... and you interrpreted as "Jim's boat is faster then yours'.... Fine... it is....



That just BS.... again your interpretation of my concern that 20-25 Offshore Boats running the length of the lake together on a Saturday afternoon may cause a problem....



More BS.... the fact is I didn't go because I don't like you Chris.... I don't want to be anywhere around you.... Apparantly nobody else does either because nobody else showed up for your after labor day run did they....



How do you explain Jim running with the guy's at the Rondack Romp this year?
I think most here will testify they all did more then 45 mph that day

I have to assume you are a slow learner Chris... so let me spell it out.... I don't like you & couldn't care less what you do.... I ignored your posts on Speedwake... and I'll ignore you here.... Adios Zappatta ;)


Gary,

Spoken like the BS man you are. Yes we had a big discussion about it on Speedwake. You said "Jim's boat will out run yours (meaning mine) in any kind of water conditions that Sacandaga ever has" And I said BS. So don't try back stepping. I offered him the chance. Most agreed with me.

You and your brother also tried preaching about the speeds of boats running fast down to the dam. And in your posts you and Jim stated that "you would have no part of it being it is not good for our image". But yet you feel it is ok to run fast with the S&F guys? Makes no sense to me either.

I really never pushed the fun run after labor day. Someone else first asked about it and I said I would be up for it. People did turn out and they even ran to the dam, but I had alot of friends up and at the Island so I stayed at the Island. So your statement of "others obviously feel the same way" is naive, but I expect that from you. How would you even know? You barely even venture out into the "big part" of the lake. Come on down where we all hang out and find out who doesn't like who. Any given weekend you can see who has a bunch of people and boats with them and who is usually just by themselves (you). Keep preaching.

It is very obvious I don't like you or your brother, as many on the lake have stated they have the same feelings I do. Not everyone has to like each other, but you need to lose your attitude.

BTW- obviously you couldn't ignore my posts.

:cool: :D

[Liqui-Fly]

Sorry Trigger Happy but as far as boating knowledge goes, if most on Speedwake think that your rig can outrun a 24 Skater(Liberator) on Sacandaga's worst day....well quite frankly they don't know chit. Whether or not Jim wants to beat himself up to prove something that anybody with half a brain knows is another issue. The "big part of the lake"...my God my our friends from Long Island must be laughing their arses off.

The people on this board are pretty fair and accept arguements based on merit...you aren't starting off all that hot.

As for the speed thing...I'll never let the hippies hijack the lake!! Jim probably figures with the group you guys had....what's with all that noise to run 65 mph. :eek:

[stokernick]

Are we a ''go'' tomorrow??[I just bought another 30 gal for my weedwacker}:rolleyes:

[Liqui-Fly]

It's looking good but Sammy was a little stuffy this morning....so we'll see.

[Trigger Happy]

Sorry Trigger Happy but as far as boating knowledge goes, if most on Speedwake think that your rig can outrun a 24 Skater(Liberator) on Sacandaga's worst day....well quite frankly they don't know chit. Whether or not Jim wants to beat himself up to prove something that anybody with half a brain knows is another issue. The "big part of the lake"...my God my our friends from Long Island must be laughing their arses off.

The people on this board are pretty fair and accept arguements based on merit...you aren't starting off all that hot.

As for the speed thing...I'll never let the hippies hijack the lake!! Jim probably figures with the group you guys had....what's with all that noise to run 65 mph. :eek:


I guess if what you say is true, then Bruce and Mary only have half a brain and don't know chit either, because they have seen what the lake can be like and agreed. I offered to find out.

And when I say "big part" I mean not the Bachelorville channel. So I don't know why your friends would be laughing their arses off.

So I am a Hippie? The group of guys that have run to the dam are great guys. I don't think Bruce would think he or I or the others we run with would be considered hippies or even inconsiderate for that matter. And merit? Just because I am new to this site I have no idea what I'm talking about? Whatever.

[GRH]

"Jim's boat can outrun your boat in any conditions that Sacandaga has". I loved that stupid statement of his brother. ;) :D

What I said was a 24' Cat will run 90+ over anything the Sacandaga has to offer.... and you interrpreted as "Jim's boat is faster then yours'.... Fine... it is....


If it were up to those 2 we would not excede 45 mph on the lake because it will cause us "unneeded attention from the authorities".

That just BS.... again your interpretation of my concern that 20-25 Offshore Boats running the length of the lake together on a Saturday afternoon may cause a problem....


I know a couple of guys on the lake that talk all kinds of trash, but always pansie out.


More BS.... the fact is I didn't go because I don't like you Chris.... I don't want to be anywhere around you.... Apparantly nobody else does either because nobody else showed up for your after labor day run did they....



How do you explain Jim running with the guy's at the Rondack Romp this year?
I think most here will testify they all did more then 45 mph that day

I have to assume you are a slow learner Chris... so let me spell it out.... I don't like you & couldn't care less what you do.... I ignored your posts on Speedwake... and I'll ignore you here.... Adios Zappatta ;)

[Liqui-Fly]

I was not calling you a hippy...I was siding with you on the issue.

Bruce and Mary would not know what a 24 Skater is capable of...they can argue with me tomorrow about that if they'd like :D

[Trigger Happy]

I was not calling you a hippy...I was siding with you on the issue.

Bruce and Mary would not know what a 24 Skater is capable of...they can argue with me tomorrow about that if they'd like :D


Well I know, and I had no problem calling him out after that statement and to run it on a rougher day. His is no real Skater. I have no problem with that. Talk to Bruce. He can fill you in on alot of things that have happened to lead it up to this point. They talk smack and try to sugar coat it. Check on some things before you mention others.

Isn't this your boat (or do I have the wrong guy)? If so I am a little disappointed. I thought you knew me better than that.

[stokernick]

sorry,TH,that's BIGNICK's boat,'Fly's is just like his avatar!

[stokernick]

how about TomD?? Saratoga Mirage??

[Liqui-Fly]

Hey I'm just going by the merits of the arguement....I'm not taking sides. In life there are friends that will smile and let you look like an ass and there are friends that will tell you when you're acting like an ass. Some people can deal with it...some can't. If you have trouble figuring out that a 115 mph offshore boat will outrun an 85 mph boat....well then I don't know what to tell ya. I wouldn't feel bad about it...you have a sweet boat but it couldn't outrun a 28 with twin 200's let alone a 24 with twin 300's regardless of water conditions.

I don't know Jim any better than I know you....this is not personal.

[Trigger Happy]

sorry,TH,that's BIGNICK's boat,'Fly's is just like his avatar!


Thank you. I didn't think BIGNICK would say some of those things. He knows me and knows how I feel about ALL boats.

Fly, just get some of the facts of the past before you enter this ring. No offense meant, just want you to know the history first.

[Trigger Happy]

Hey I'm just going by the merits of the arguement....I'm not taking sides. In life there are friends that will smile and let you look like an ass and there are friends that will tell you when you're acting like an ass. Some people can deal with it...some can't. If you have trouble figuring out that a 115 mph offshore boat will outrun an 85 mph boat....well then I don't know what to tell ya. I wouldn't feel bad about it...you have a sweet boat but it couldn't outrun a 28 with twin 200's let alone a 24 with twin 300's regardless of water conditions.

I don't know Jim any better than I know you....this is not personal.


On Sacandaga on a windy day, I will have no problems running him from Sand island to Lanzi's. If he wants a piece of that it is there for him to take it. I said rough water, not smooth water. So I guess I don't know why you can't understand that his boat is not going to run 115 (or 90 for that matter) across those conditons. I will. On smooth water I have no chance. Where I run alot, his boat would not be comfortable in. (1000 Islands, Champlain, etc..) So you are saying a Porshe 911 will out run my truck up the back woods of my house? Each has its own strengths.

[Liqui-Fly]

The 24 was designed as an offshore boat. I don't know how much Jim runs his boat, but I do know what those boats are capable of. If he has to slow down to 100 he's still getting there first. I guess anybody with any boat could come up with conditions that they could beat someone else in.

'll be on the water tomorrow morning if anybody wants to get their ass whooped by my bass boat:)

[JIM5656]

HOW ANYONE COULD SAY I AM NOT A POPULAR GUY!!!! :D
I like everbody.

[GRH]

HOW ANYONE COULD SAY I AM NOT A POPULAR GUY!!!! :D
I like everbody.


Even your little brother :eek:

[JIM5656]

Even your little brother :eek:
But you could be nicer to my friends. :D

[Trigger Happy]

The 24 was designed as an offshore boat. I don't know how much Jim runs his boat, but I do know what those boats are capable of. If he has to slow down to 100 he's still getting there first. I guess anybody with any boat could come up with conditions that they could beat someone else in.

'll be on the water tomorrow morning if anybody wants to get their ass whooped by my bass boat:)


I don't think you know his boat then. His boat was never intended as an offshore boat. Now my boating buddies would be laughing at that statement. It is fast (and it is fast) in calmer water. Not the rough stuff. And there are days on Sacandaga that that thing would not even want to come out yet alone run 100mph. Please!

And I'm not trying to "come up with conditions", I am merely saying rough water. Nothing special, just rough water.

[Liqui-Fly]

If you and your buddies are laughing at the statement that the 24 Skater wasn't meant as an offshore boat...why don't you do everyone here a favor and stay over there because you are diluting the boating "gene pool" here with your ignorance.

I highly suggest you investigate the offshore racing history of the 24 Skater before you come over here proclaiming your expertise. There are actual racing bodies that do something other than go bar to bar and get a playing card. If you need help with resources I'll be happy to spend my time to educate you.

If that isn't enough for you perhaps a map would show you that the Sacanadaga Lake is in fact inshore...so regardless your point is moot.

[Trigger Happy]

If you and your buddies are laughing at the statement that the 24 Skater wasn't meant as an offshore boat...why don't you do everyone here a favor and stay over there because you are diluting the boating "gene pool" here with your ignorance.

I highly suggest you investigate the offshore racing history of the 24 Skater before you come over here proclaiming your expertise. There are actual racing bodies that do something other than go bar to bar and get a playing card. If you need help with resources I'll be happy to spend my time to educate you.

If that isn't enough for you perhaps a map would show you that the Sacanadaga Lake is in fact inshore...so regardless your point is moot.


Like I said his boat is not a SKATER!!! His is not as heavy or built like one! (and I need some education)

And it is funny, you mentioned his was built as an offshore boat, that is what I was commenting on. I never mentioned anything about Sacandaga being "offshore". Good way to put 2 and 2 together. Believe me I don't need any education from you.

No, try "expanding" your knowledge about boats (all kind of boats) and not just smaller outboard ones. There are plenty of others and to be so close minded is true ignorance.

(and I think you meant to say "inland", not inshore)

[Liqui-Fly]

Like I said his boat is not a SKATER!!! His is not as heavy or built like one! (and I need some education)

You know this or you heard this? So not as heavy does what...makes it slower?? I thought everyone complained about splashes because they were copies. Now we're to believe it's completely different.

And it is funny, you mentioned his was built as an offshore boat, that is what I was commenting on. I never mentioned anything about Sacandaga being "offshore". Good way to put 2 and 2 together. Believe me I don't need any education from you.

It was a joke...and you could use an education from me.

No, try "expanding" your knowledge about boats (all kind of boats) and not just smaller outboard ones. There are plenty of others and to be so close minded is true ignorance.

(and I think you meant to say "inland", not inshore)

Ohh I said inshore not inland...you got me there...WOW you are amazing.

Your boat could do 90 on it's best day with a tailwind and vapors in the gastank and your giving a guy with a 115+ boat a hard time. Get a clue.

[Trigger Happy]

Ohh I said inshore not inland...you got me there...WOW you are amazing.

Your boat could do 90 on it's best day with a tailwind and vapors in the gastank and your giving a guy with a 115+ boat a hard time. Get a clue.

Amazing...? Yes I am. I am glad you are learning something.

Your ignorance is spewing. You have no idea how fast my boat runs, yet you babble on. How was I giving his boat a hard time? I said it was fast. Just take your boat and go fishing.

[Liqui-Fly]

But my fishing boat will walk on yours in a manner that not even you could make excuses for. Yep I'm ignorant...maybe someday you'll be able to educate me on everything from hull design and lay-ups to fuel injection. My guess is you're more a polished bezel, wax, and image expert though.

[Trigger Happy]

But my fishing boat will walk on yours in a manner that not even you could make excuses for. Yep I'm ignorant...maybe someday you'll be able to educate me on everything from hull design and lay-ups to fuel injection. My guess is you're more a polished bezel, wax, and image expert though.


You are so naive. Alot of talk, but little substance. And I SOOO would love to have your fishing boat. Not. Maybe someday you will be able to step up.

[Liqui-Fly]

Step up to what..a boat or step down from a family. Step up to what...going slower and pretending I'm the envy of all. You really need to get a grip there isn't anything you have that I envy. A guy that thinks so much of himself simply because of his boat is nothing to be envied. Sorry man...you'll have to take that nonsense to your local soda shop. There's only adults here. I'd race you for your title...but I don't think the bank would go for it.

[Trigger Happy]

Step up to what..a boat or step down from a family. Step up to what...going slower and pretending I'm the envy of all. You really need to get a grip there isn't anything you have that I envy. A guy that thinks so much of himself simply because of his boat is nothing to be envied. Sorry man...you'll have to take that nonsense to your local soda shop. There's only adults here. I'd race you for your title...but I don't think the bank would go for it.


Again, you don't even know me. You think you know how I think? Grow up. I don't base my outlook on life on a boat, but you sure seem to want to fight over them so much, so who is more wrapped up into them??? Local soda shop??

Why, you couldn't pay your boat off with the bank if I took it from you? I know I can. I don't know why you have such an attitude, but the thought of short man syndrome comes to mind. Your just wasting my time.

[Liqui-Fly]

Didn't you type "maybe someday you'll be able to step up"?

You came over here and you got on Bruce (I know kiddin) and then got on Jim. You've been booted off another board for the same thing but of course I'm the one with the attitude. hahahaha this has been a great Friday. Short man's syndrome....yep that's me. Have a good one Top Gun...man you're just like Tom Cruise.

Free tip of the day...when you mean to say "you are" it is spelled you're..not your. So it would be you're wasting my time....get it?

[Trigger Happy]

Didn't you type "maybe someday you'll be able to step up"?

You came over here and you got on Bruce (I know kiddin) and then got on Jim. You've been booted off another board for the same thing but of course I'm the one with the attitude. hahahaha this has been a great Friday. Short man's syndrome....yep that's me. Have a good one Top Gun...man you're just like Tom Cruise.

Free tip of the day...when you mean to say "you are" it is spelled you're..not your. So it would be you're wasting my time....get it?


You just keep on babbling.

No, Tom Cruise is short. You should be able to relate.

You have no idea what went down on the other site. Others do. Check with them. They might be able to enlighten you.

Your free tip (yet another one- I'm in the giving mood) I think you meant to type "kidding" not kiddin. That sounds a little redneckish (but then again maybe that is what you were going for).

This has been fun.:cool:

[Liqui-Fly]

Keep an eye out for me. One day I'm going to catch you while you're running from the launch to Sand Island to park for the day. Maybe I'll run close enough so the draft will pull you up to 85.3.

Please don't mix typos with 5th grade grammar and you are every bit of a redneck as I am...you can try and hide it, but it's there.

[Trigger Happy]

Keep an eye out for me. One day I'm going to catch you while you're running from the launch to Sand Island to park for the day. Maybe I'll run close enough so the draft will pull you up to 85.3.

Please don't mix typos with 5th grade grammar and you are every bit of a redneck as I am...you can try and hide it, but it's there.

It would have to be AWFULLY calm for you to do that. And becareful if you get that close because you would only feel like a speed bump as I go over you.

[PhastBoat]

Why dont you take you, that car motor powered barge, all your gold chains and go away. This is a outboard forum, dummy. ANd I'll tell you what, when I'm there in June if my boat cant beat you then I will.

[stokernick]

Hey,Sam,welcome to the sideshow,come up tomorrow and the donuts' are on me!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :o :eek: :o :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[freddyspens]

holy chit, got caught up workin a couple of 18+hr days and then...

hey nick was that you with fly that went by today?? i started frigging bolting chit together to get it up to the launch after i heard the 2boats go by and up the river!! i sold my worked 2.4 friday and i had to put my 2.5 back together, i sold the platform the 2.5 was on so i had to mount it on another one,anyways im ready to go and ill be in the water in the morning although i dont have a lwp lower anymore.. i do have a mod-vp cle lower and it has fewer intake holes and they are also lower on the side as well but i guess i wont be running surfaced will i get the tubing for the lwp's installed on my other lowerunit..

oh, and if that was you nick,i walked out to watch you guys go back by and the stoker looks like it was running really nice when ya came back down past my shop.. is flys motor not broken in yet or something?? anyways, hopefully ill see someone out there tomorrow..later--sean

[Shaneskater24]

Well...my boat broke late summer. Broke a piston skirt off. By the time I got it all pulled apart, because I have no friends to help me, I was in no rush to re-assemble. :confused: :o Now I am on SNOWMOBILE MODE! :cool: Waiting on my new shock. :cool: Weather sucks! 70 and sunny, I have no boat to go out on because my Formula is winterized, the Skater is all blowed up, so I guess I will have to ride my motorsickle alone today cuz GRH thought it was more important to spend the day with his son than to go for a ride. :( :rolleyes: These old geezers with priorities. :rolleyes: Geesh! :D

Here's my boat when it actually runs.

[stokernick]

Yep,I came to the Sacky-Wacky to get my azz whipped by the "Fly".Some kids just have no respect for their elders!!The lake was unbelieveable,there should have been more out there.At least I got to walk on the E-Tech bass boat!!Did you run the Sebold Friday??:D

[Liqui-Fly]

Man you disappeared on us for a while.

[RedRider]

How many boats went out this weekend? Wish I could of been there Saratoga Mirage. Terry

[stokernick]

RedRider,only 'Fly and me Saturday,I don't know about today ,cuz I just ran here at Caroga[Where I live]. Shane,you better look out for those 38ft Cigarettes cuz they'll eat you up on the Great Sacandaga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[JIM5656]

Threads just seem to disappear around here. I talked to david today and I guess you guys had a good ride. I spent the day winterizing my boat. I would have much rather gone for a ride but I have some minor issues with my boat I have to straighten out. Elactrical crap that just pops up to make you crazy. I didn't realize you were on Caroga. I have never run over there. I have a friend that has a summer home there. And a boat. I don't know why but i never gave it a thought as place to run my boat.......Jim

[freddyspens]

Yep,I came to the Sacky-Wacky to get my azz whipped by the "Fly".Some kids just have no respect for their elders!!The lake was unbelieveable,there should have been more out there.At least I got to walk on the E-Tech bass boat!!Did you run the Sebold Friday??:D


fly whipped ya huh nick?? his boat looks bad ass when its running fast, it just really looks like it runs/rides awesome. the guy didnt run the seebold unfortunately cause he was on a tight schedule and had to get back to 1000 islands-- although i have been promised a chance to drive it cause he is coming back for the romp!! the boat is just beautiful and it is in amazing shape, at 500lbs i bet its gonna fly!

i was so pissed i wasnt ready when i heard and saw you guys go by, but i had to mount my powerhead to another mid plate, swivel and mounting bracket, bolt on the mid section and lower and then bolt it to the jackplate and hook everything up- oh and i had to put the reed cages back on,switch carbs and bolt the intake on-ph and cut out a gasket as well since i didnt have anymore 14petal intake gaskets so there was a little bit of work.. i put it in this morning but it was nothing like yesterday- that water was GLASS yesterday!! it was pretty rough today but i had fun blasting around for a while.. this other mid is a lot louder as it has the big section cut out like talon2.5 did in that one thread..also i like the way this mod-vp CLE handles even though i dont have the engine mounted as high, i guess ill have to put a cone on it with lwp's over the winter..

well, if any of you want to go back out let me know cause i am ready to go again, i will probably put it in tomorrow at some point if its not raining :D
later--sean

[stokernick]

Jim,while it would be a hoot to see your boat on Caroga,I don't think you'd like it,unless you like to go fast,turn left a lot,cuz it's only a mile long!!Issues can drive you nutz! I have a shift issue that I think I've finally narrowed down to my Shift lever.Nice thunder and lightning show last night,but another warm week for the Marine Corps Birthday!

[JIM5656]

i HAVE A TRIM PUMP THAT WENT WACKY

[Trigger Happy]

Why dont you take you, that car motor powered barge, all your gold chains and go away. This is a outboard forum, dummy. ANd I'll tell you what, when I'm there in June if my boat cant beat you then I will.


Amazing what small minds think like. I never said I don't like outboards or anything against them at all. A few of you close minded idiots did. And if you think you can beat me (physically) I would love to see that one. Your boat very well could beat mine. I have no idea what you have (boat), but I am pretty sure I am not to worried about you. Amazing how some internet tough guys talk so tough. I will be waiting. Don't wait until June. How about sooner rather than later.

[Trigger Happy]

RedRider,only 'Fly and me Saturday,I don't know about today ,cuz I just ran here at Caroga[Where I live]. Shane,you better look out for those 38ft Cigarettes cuz they'll eat you up on the Great Sacandaga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


I know Shane and his Skater. He knows me and my boat. His boat runs well, but it is a Skater! Jim's is not a Skater! You guys can't seem to catch on too easily. I would rather be in Shanes boat in the rougher stuff than Jims. Jims is lighter. Plus I think I would trust Shanes driving better as well.

Caroga, good place for you. I find it funny that a few of you take a battle between me and someone else and turn it into a Outboard vs "car motor" battle. True redneck ignorance. I did not start bashing anyones boat. You guys felt the need to do that.

[stokernick]

hhhhhhmmmmmmmmm,Dave,I have Friday off,how about a ''day after USMC Birthday Romp'',water is still up and boat not winterized yet!:eek: :confused: :D :) ;)

[platypus]

It all started as who will have the fastest boat at Ct Run. :eek: :eek:

It's not the boats fault it's the owner. :rolleyes:

Art

[Stoker1]

Like others have said.... GET LOST TH~!

[stokernick]

TH,where ever I am,is where I want to be! I'm not a redneck,I'm a woodchuck,and your point??

[freddyspens]

Jim's is not a Skater! You guys can't seem to catch on too easily. I would rather be in Shanes boat in the rougher stuff than Jims. Jims is lighter. Plus I think I would trust Shanes driving better as well.

Caroga, good place for you. I find it funny that a few of you take a battle between me and someone else and turn it into a Outboard vs "car motor" battle. True redneck ignorance. I did not start bashing anyones boat. You guys felt the need to do that.


:rolleyes:

come on, are you really that dim that you think we are all stupid??

jim probably has more experience over 90-100mph then you have over 50mph

[Liqui-Fly]

And it will go away. Don't feed the trolls.

[freddyspens]

hey dave, i am gonna go out on the lake for a little while if ya can get out... ill probably be done with work in another hour or 2 at most... and yeah, i did a "find all posts by" and just about every one was an arguement, well except for the 1st couple anyways... later -- sean

[Liqui-Fly]

Saturday will be my next opportunity.

[freddyspens]

ok, well hopefully ill be around, i should be anyways... i am hoping to go down to the island to pick up another hydrostream for a project and also to see a friend that has some parts motors for me-- hopefully i can get it done before the weekend!! anyways, have a good day-- sean

[LGT-FST]

th My money is on Phastboat, he will give ya a severe whoopin on land or water. :eek:

[Dntlokbak]

I guess I'm taking the Laser off the market so I can keep up to you guys and watch the fireworks. Call me crazy but the only time I considered Sacandaga a rough lake was in an MX15. A 24' Liberator on Sacandaga is a luxury cruise compared to some of the boats JH used to run up there. Sounds like some one is bringing a knife to a gun fight. I hope my grammer was OK.

[stokernick]

One thing I know is we all leave our egos at home and have a good time.No one on this board has a ''superior than thou'' attitude,we all help each other and respect what evryone does to promote safe,fast boating.There is a zero tolerence for arrogance!!IMHO:D :D :D :D :D

[JIM5656]

I guess I'm taking the Laser off the market so I can keep up to you guys and watch the fireworks. Call me crazy but the only time I considered Sacandaga a rough lake was in an MX15. A 24' Liberator on Sacandaga is a luxury cruise compared to some of the boats JH used to run up there. Sounds like some one is bringing a knife to a gun fight. I hope my grammer was OK.


Got your flack jacket on? :eek:

[Viper GTs]

Hey...You Guys Hijacked my thread...Its ok, the Ct River Run drowned in the flood this year :eek: :eek: Argue on....Al... :D :D

[Trikki1010]

TH,where ever I am,is where I want to be! I'm not a redneck,I'm a woodchuck,and your point??

:eek: :eek:

Okay, My name is Rick and I'm a woodchuck too :D :D

And TH, just cause ya got an 85 MPH speedo and can't bury it is no reason to pick on those that can ;)

Napoleon had that problem too :eek:

[Dntlokbak]

Have to agree with Stokernick. I was surprised at some of the content of this thread. My experience with S&F members has been great, performance boaters helping each other etc. We should probably get back to fighting speed limits, trading information, drinking and organizing events. :rolleyes:

[Liqui-Fly]

Organized events....you've been holding out on us for 5 years. I wanna see that Laser....I've been trying to get all the "gotta get a boat" guys I know to go look at yours, but of course they were just talking.

[stokernick]

ViperGTS,highjack your thread??????Doesn't the Sacandaga Romp kind of run into the Ct River Run?!?!?!It's just a small tangent!!!:D

[Dntlokbak]

Thanks for the good press in regard to my boat. I guess deep down if I really wanted to sell it I would have put a reasonable price on it. There is just something about that little Merc screamin' at 6500 plus RPM that is hard to live without. I missed the Romp this year but will be there next year if I still have the boat. :D