No Down Payment Financing for Performance Boats

[Sam Baker]

Just worked out a deal with one of our financing companies. For a limited time, they'll finance any new boat package (Allison, Mirage, Eliminator or Liberator (21' and 24' Only) with no money down and great terms - up to 180 months and rates anywhere from 8-10% based on your credit.

I'm not necessarily trying to put this out there as a sales ploy, but there were several questions out here about financing, etc. and sometimes it's difficult to get financing on performance boats because your local bank has no clue what they are. But if anybody is considering getting a new boat, this could be a way for you to do it. For example, if you have good credit, you can get into a Brand New Mirage starting at around $270/month or an Allison for around $315/month with no money down.

This would give you the ability to order your new boat and sell the old one without having to worry about a down payment. My payments above are based on an "average" boat with a 200 OptiMax XS. If you have any questions or would like a more precise quote, please e-mail me at [email protected].

Sam

[B.Leonard]

That is really a great deal!

It is truly amazing to me the lengths that they are having to go in order to "break up" the lack of flow of cash in the economy after 8 years bloated taxation. We were WAY over the safety line and on thin ice for years and then Sept11 started the cracking.

Where's the cash in this economy!?!

If you ask me, the gov is gonna have to go just as far to the right to correct it as those bums took us to the left, and then some before it straightens out.

-BL

[KaptainKirk]

This question is from my Dad.
He is comparison shopping.....
How much for the 28' Daytona with trip 300x's
Also he wants to know if ya still selling Motion.
If so how much for a 28' from them with the same power.
For your info he is getting a quote from Profile on there 28' with the same power. Also,
He is interested in whether the Motion has a break in the lines of the dash like the daytona does?
He doesn't like the way the daytona has that cutout in the middle of the dash....messes with having as many gauges as possible.
Thanks in advance......
K.K.

[Sam Baker]

A couple of suggestions and comments....Yes, we still sell Motion - they make a 30' boat. They're radically different than the other two boats you're talking about. The 28' Profile is a very heavy boat as is the Eliminator compared to the Motion. The Eliminator comes in two types - a Low Deck and a Tall Deck. The Low Profile boat would be comparable to the other two you're talking about.

It sounds like he's bent on outboards, but to be honest with you, the boat would probably run faster with twin 496 HOs (425 HP each).

Delivery time on the Motion could be heinous - Brad's took a year!

I'll e-mail you a quote for the Eliminator later today.

I just put together a quote for a gentleman on the 28' Tall Deck with twin 496 HOs and it came to about $130,000 or so.

Sam

[Greg Moss]

with the added wieght of the stern drive package there is no way the stern drive will out run the out board. 3 outboards will run circles around a twin sterndrive. I know it is not a very good comparison but a guy here has a 30 ft eliminator and also has a 28 Motion the 30 has 2 502 mags with Bravo drives and will not do more than 80mph The 28 has 3 2.5 offshores and will run over 125mph. even if you add the 2 extra feet to the motion it should still run 115 ain't a twin stern drive ever gonna do that. Oh and I forgot about all the extra parts the sterndrives have to break. I work on both and make alot more money working on sterndrives so you can not convince me it is a better system. I know you are trying to sell boats Sam but the stern drive is not thwe way to go in my oppinion and it is only my oppinion. (They SUCK) Good for my bank account not for the person that owns it.

[Capt.Insane-o]

The majority of my paycheck (70%) comes from stresseddrives, I mean sterndrives. Nothin' I like better than crawling in a hole to pull a 1000 lb blob of broken cast iron, except maybe sex with a box of carpet tacks. Lemme see, Starter bypasses, gimbal bearings, boots, shift cables, u-joints, engine couplers, exhaust manifolds, belts, 2 water pumps, alternators, drive alignment, motor mounts, starters you can't reach, let alone see, goddamn, sign me up. I want a boat with four of 'em...............:D

[B.Leonard]

LOL! Capt.Insane! That is hillarious!!

I'm redoing the twin Merc 170/Alpha's in my Sea Ray and I'm getting a first hand taste of stresseddrives! At least I can see the starters! LOL! I cannot imagine putting in a couple car v8s. Those starters better work, you'll never see 'em again!

My problem is I don't want to switch to OBs for risk of lowering the resale. I'd have to do a knockout installation w/bracket and twin DFIs (of your choice :D) for it to be worth anything. The cost of twin DFIs would far exceed redoing the existing powerplants. Also, if I went carbed 2cycle, the mpg would be ridiculous.

So got any extra gimbal bearings and boots?? :D


-BL

[Sam Baker]

I'm talking about on the eliminator. Powerboat just finished a test with a 30' Eliminator with twin 496 HOs and it ran 105mph. 3 ProMaxes on that boat won't run that fast. Hotboat did a test of the 28' with 3 300s and it only ran in the mid 80s. The Motion is a much lighter boat. For the record, Motion has never made a 28, they made a 25 and a 30. We have a very good customer here with a 30 with triple 280s and it runs about 115. However, adding the third motor doesn't get you as much as you might think.

We also have a very good customer with a 30' Spectre with 2 300Xs and it runs about 108. That's a great boat too.

I'm comparing the Eliminator with ProMaxes versus Sterndrives. The extra weight of the Eliminator's cabin, etc. gets it to the point where the torque of the stern drives makes it a better boat with stern drives than with outboards.

I'm going by my experience with the Eliminator boat as well as with what independent testing has backed up.

A lighter boat like a Spectre/Motion/Skater is a different story and I would recommend the 300s. Although, for my money, I'd keep it to two 300Xs. The third motor doesn't get you a lot of bang for the buck and resale is actually harder with triples believe it or not.

Sam

[woodco]

I've always wondered if the third motor is relevant.... Why would
they spec a boat that way if it doesn't get ya anything more than
extra maintenance and initial purchase expense. Or is it just for show ?

[Sam Baker]

There is definitely a difference when it comes to accelleration and believe me, if you're running 108 with 2 motors and your buddy's running 113 with 3, most people that can afford a boat with 2 motors can afford one with 3 and they'll want the 3rd one.

I was just saying with "MY" money....that's a whole different ball game completely.

The boat's become more difficult to rig as well. We have 2 months of solid time in rigging Brad Zastrow's Motion. It turned out beautiful, but that time would have been cut down drastically if it were only 2 engines. The gauges would have been a LOT easier to rig that's for sure.

Sam

[us1ss]

The rule of thumb is the 3rd motor on a high performance hull is worth 10 mph. The extra weight, drag in the water, etc. and on a true tunnel the middle motor gets beat.

[Brad Zastrow]

The third motor is not good for 10 mph more. APBA kilo runs have the twin and triple motor o/b's exactly the same. In a longer run you may pickup a few mph that is about it. However the punch with the third motor is hugh! Cool factor helps also. On the Chain where we boat I like the extra power to crush the other boats on our smaller lakes. Get ahead and it is all over even if they are faster top end. I have raced some very fast I/O's who could not stay with me. I would get ahead of them and they would be afraid of blowing up staying in the throttle to catch me. Yee-Haw

[us1ss]

When we were racing offshore in prostock with triples. 10 mph was the rule of thumb. In the mid to late 90's hull designs have gotten very efficient. If Big John at Lake X says 10 is the rule of thumb; it is.

I'm not saying a twin won't run with a triple I am just giving a general rule of thumb that was givin to me by someone that knows alot about offshore rigging.

[JEFF C]

I BELEIVE BIG BRAD SHOULD NOW HES BEEN THERE AND DID IT.AND THREE MOTORS WERE NOT ENOUGH FOR HI NOW HE HAS TWIN INBOARDS THAT WILL DO 150 AND A HOLE LOT MORE PUNCH THAN THAT TRIPLE WHAT U SAY BRAD?

[Brad Zastrow]

Jeff, I will make sure not to runover any blue drag Allisons with the new beast. I would hate to scratch the hull. Any luck with your hunt for a big cat?;) ;)