B/W Boats 225 shoot out

[BASSIN]

Anyone read this artical yet.
I was just wondering if anyone else had questioned why a hand built(by mercury racing) Mercury was compaired to two production line motors.

Maybe I am missing something :o

And I am not trying to start a pissing contest

[David]

They all got tested together because they all cost about the same money. Who cares if its hand built if it costs the same

I keep looking at the 200XS vs a 175 Yammy or Rude and the costs are similar. Of course I`m too cheap to buy either just yet.

My next SS2000 motor needs to be a light weight V6. I hope its a few years away.

[Liqui-Fly]

For other manufacturers to step up and compete with Mercury.

[RBT]

I would have liked to see a verado too. But it was a pretty good artical. I was confused by one bit and that was that they still used the rec rev limit and not where it pulled to. If they set the limiter hi........use it, everyone does!. The E-Tec was a lot faster if you read the small print than what they posted on the charts.
Congreats to Merc, still the fastest!,

RT

[David]

the fine print:

The E Tech was 2.5 mph faster with the unavailable till MY06 gearcase. The gearcase cooked itself so it clearly isn't ready for prime time.

The Yamaha was similarly faster if rev'd to the limiter

Even with those extra mph the Merc was fastest.

If they reduced the Mercs prop pitch to equal the other motors top speed, would it have equalled their acceleration?

Looked like the Merc won fair and square

[BASSIN]

I can't believe they even tested these motors on the same playing field.
Two full production, assembly line motors against a hand built(by mercury racing) engine. Now if they had let say Al(racer)/Monty hand assemble/blue print and polish(oh sorry "hand built") a motor then they could be compaired on a equal level.

[JWTjr.]

That will be corrected in the next issue...the 225 Pro XS was prototyped at Racing, but is actually built on the standard production line.

It was a very fair test. Merc won fair and square. I liked the E-Tec and Yamaha a lot, though. The E-Tec reminded me of Evinrudes of old.

JWTjr.

[neveredge]

Whats up with the Bullets weight? They are listed at 1500+ pounds. What all is included in that figure? Fuel? Batt.? Trolling motor? Were the engines included in the weights? If so those are some very light Bullets and if not then they are rather heavy.

[Hydropromax]

A single console Bullet weighs 1200 pounds hull only. The center steer weighs 1175 hull only.

[neveredge]

My Bullet weighs 878lbs. It is a 91 20XRD. I am refering to the bwb test.

[David]

B&W is the best magazine. Who else has ever done regular engine comparisons? Not even S&F.

I haven't fished in 20 years but I subscribe to B&W.

[Scream And Fly]

B&W is the best magazine. Who else has ever done regular engine comparisons? Not even S&F.

David, that's going to change... Very soon. :)

- Greg

[blkmtrfan]

David, that's going to change... Very soon. :)

- Greg

I like the sound of that :cool:

[Fish]

David, that's going to change... Very soon. :)

- Greg

I like the sound of that too!!!!!! not positivewhat it means, but if it is what I think it is, Soon cannot come soon enough!

[1BadAction]

comparing which motors paint takes wax the best or what?

[David]

Greg, I meant no slur, I was just trying to be funny and I think you know that. Comparisons here would be great.

Car magazines do comparisons all the time. Maybe their budgets are bigger than boat magazines.

Powerboat's awards issue (this month) took a step in that direction by showing similar boats side by side. I may be their only defender here.

[JWTjr.]

Thanks for all the kind compliments. The Merc did win fair and square. We don't do it any other way.

Car magazine budgets are gargantuan compared to ours. So is their market. They pretty much do whatever they want. We have a tight budget to stick to. We just did a 200 DFI shootout and we were discussing the possibilities of revisiting these same engines a year from now to see what the reliability factor and repair incidence was. Car magazines do this all the time and it's valuable.

JWTjr.

[Instigator]

a build off challenge?? I've suggested this before but it went no where??
Popular Hot Rodding does a challenge of changing perameters that every one is elidgable to compete in.
It is an awesmome concept and they come up with some killer combos.
They do it all on a dyno and set the RPM range to simulate a street/performance car and therfore test/measure torque and HP figures at lower rev levels anddddd... stipulate pump gas only!!
As John already pointed out we ain't the car biz so we would have to be creative but what iff........
If Bass/Walleye does it they get sponsors to donate prizes (this is what PHR did) and maybe advertising to the winner if it was a professional builder.
How bout.....
3.0 liters + .030" max, limit port timing by crankshaft rotation/duration and not depth from deck, must idle low enough to be able to shift w/o destroying a case, must run on 93/94 pump gas (any compression as long as it does this), idle for 5 or 10 mins w/o loading up, then start measuring HP/TQ from say 2500/3000 and limit it to 7000/7500.
(Run it on a crank shaft dyno to elimnate gear ratio variables and the variance in readings from a L&S prop dyno)
You then average the readings from all across the scale to elimiate high/spike readings that are basically worthless on a lake boat.
Maybe a dollar limit of investment also??
Jay Smith builds a Merc, Al Stoker builds a Johnny, and Ray Neudecker builds a Yammi!!
What do yah think??
I think it would be killer!!

[neveredge]

If bwb does that I'm gonna renew for life!